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[SID8D2]

Finally going to Do some motor Work.
Drago Bike Works has my bike now and will begin tearing it down next week.
Going thru the bottom end with welded crank, balancened, trued, H-Beam rods and timekin bearings.
Cam chest-Camplate, better pump and gear drive cams.
I am undecided what to do to the top end. I already have Pro Street Heads by Dewey but the builder may need to rework them so he is happy.
My question is the jugs and bore? Drago wants to match the Granite color as do I. He is talking a 114 kit of some sort but the granite color is an issue. What about 113 or 117? Who makes a good head in Granite, Extell? Or should I not worry about it and go with Black?
I have a TTS and Fullsac pipe with Hi Output Slipons that I would like to continue to run with. A sleeper stock looking Bike  that I hope to be in the 120/125 range.

Thanks for the input.

[HD Street Performance]

Who makes a good head in Granite

Harley Davidson or have the aftermarket powder coat them, the heads that is

AFAIK the only granite cylinders aftermarket come from Revolution Performance. I may be mistaken as I have not shopped it lately.

The heads you have will move right up the line however since that time frame we have evolved a bit and use larger valves in the higher hp oriented builds. Use a Tman 662-1 at 10.8:1 and discover a lot of uncovered power. Right now the cam, throttle body, injectors and pipe (Dragula is an excellent fix) are a stumbling block, assuming the TB is stock. Same heads at 10.8 with a 662-2 at 10.8 made 151/147 SAE on an early 5sp bike which had a 6 speed HD trans that derates some.

[Razorback]

You can get the new S&S 117 cylinders in granite, I was told the cost would increase about a hundred bucks, they have their own powder coating facility in La Crosse WI  The new cylinders are a very nice setup I might add.

[HD Street Performance]

I have used them and they are working and checking well without any changes.

[buell95]

 Another option would be revolution performance they offer granite and i think dragos is a dealer for them as well as s&s

[SID8D2]

The heads you have will move right up the line however since that time frame we have evolved a bit and use larger valves in the higher hp oriented builds. Use a T-Man 662-1 at 10.8:1 and discover a lot of uncovered power. Right now the cam, throttle body, injectors and pipe (Dragula is an excellent fix) are a stumbling block, assuming the TB is stock. Same heads at 10.8 with a 662-2 at 10.8 made 151/147 SAE on an early 5sp bike which had a 6 speed HD trans that derates some.
  
Don;
According the the info on the S&S 117 HSU with the heads I have at 90.2CC it shows the compression will be below 10.8:1; I'm guessing it would be 10.4:1 still ok to use the T-Man 662-2 cams Or will Frank at Drago's be able to achieve the recommended compression for these cams?
As for the TB, currently it is still stock, Frank was talking about reworking it and it would flow better than a 58mm TB (I thought these 2009 110's cam stock with a 58mm)  

[HD Street Performance]

Feel free to call me and I will explain.
Thanks

[VANAMAL]

Axtell said they have the granite in the works

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

The heads you have will move right up the line however since that time frame we have evolved a bit and use larger valves in the higher hp oriented builds. Use a T-Man 662-1 at 10.8:1 and discover a lot of uncovered power. Right now the cam, throttle body, injectors and pipe (Dragula is an excellent fix) are a stumbling block, assuming the TB is stock. Same heads at 10.8 with a 662-2 at 10.8 made 151/147 SAE on an early 5sp bike which had a 6 speed HD trans that derates some.
  
Don;
According the the info on the S&S 117 HSU with the heads I have at 90.2CC it shows the compression will be below 10.8:1; I'm guessing it would be 10.4:1 still ok to use the T-Man 662-2 cams Or will Frank at Drago's be able to achieve the recommended compression for these cams?
As for the TB, currently it is still stock, Frank was talking about reworking it and it would flow better than a 58mm TB (I thought these 2009 110's cam stock with a 58mm)  

FWIW, an S&S .640 will bust 150, in a 117"er as well.
Scott

[digga25]

Sid I bought s&s 117 cyls and had them powder coated.Heads were done by R&R and the stock 09 cvo comes with a 50mm tb.I changed to 58 mm with 5.3 inj.Goes like a scalded dog.

[SID8D2]

Dilemma.......Motor builder has suggested a drop in a S&S 124 rather than build me a good running 110-117 with bottom end rebuilt. Price wise about the same (maybe a little more for the S&S) but bang for the buck is better. What do you guys think about this option going on my SERG3?
Would this effect resale value negatively down the road?
Is the look of the black S&S so different from the HD motor that I would regret it?
Should I take the low road and just spend the bucks and go to 117?
What sort of resale value can I expect out of a Granite 110 with Dewey ProStreet heads, Woods Cams, Woods Directional lifters and HD push rods. Never had a professional tune but was on Dyno and ran 100hp about same tork (TTS Tune by me). I do have a dyno sheet. Only 15000 miles on motor.
Just trying to make a decision.

[HOGMIKE]

Dilemma.......Motor builder would has suggested a drop in a S&S 124 rather than build me a good running 110-117 with bottom end rebuilt. Price wise about the same (maybe a little more for the S&S) but bang for the buck is better. What do you guys think about this option going on my SERG3?
Would this effect resale value negatively down the road?
Is the look of the black S&S so different from the HD motor that I would regret it?
Should I take the low road and just spend the bucks and go to 117?
What sort of resale value can I expect out of a Granite 110 with Dewey ProStreet heads, Woods Cams, Woods Directional lifters and HD push rods. Never had a professional tune but was on Dyno and ran 100hp about same tork (TTS Tune by me). I do have a dyno sheet. Only 15000 miles on motor.
Just trying to make a decision.

Choices, choices!
124 is a good choice IMO.
I have had good luck with S&S so far. sold the 124 bike, but, still have the 113 bagger with mucho miles on it, still running fine.
I have my "stock" 93" motor on a stand, just to look at now!
You can always swap in your stock motor if you wish for resale.
JMHO, of course.
 

[Yellow09SERG]

Ok not overly educated on the 110 cases, so educated me a little. Can the 110 granite cases the opened up to the 117 due to the o-ringed spigots?
David

[cvobiker]

Go with the 124,, hot rod the piss out of it, then when you get ready to sell your bike switch back to your stocker with low milage. Then either sell that 124, stick it in another bike or find an old golf cart.    .....  Just whatever you do, stay away from a Jim's.. The S&S is a good choice, RB Orca is another (better IMO) good choice too, their 139 is damn good bullet proof motor that can put out some nasty HP/TQ...  Chain Drive required  

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

At 90 cc the heads have been decked a fair amount with a 117 kit you would have two options for compression. The flat top piston would offer you 10.7.1  or the dish (-10.9) would come in at 9.9.1. With the t man 662-2 in a 117 at 10.8 comp I found that it could have used a tad more compression. However in a 124 the 662-2 worked much better even at 10.4 compression.

With the 662-1 you WILL have issues on fuel out west. We have tried that cam it does offer up some great power at the comp level. But one warm days its has some issues, and when it gets hot fuel becomes the monster.. We only have 91 E 10 fuel so that is the problem. However if you dont plan on touring outside the area of 93 fuel and have it tuned you should be ok.

On the 124 S&S drop in. Look at my other post on that engine. It really did very well for the price point.  It is always nice to reuse the parts you have but if its not going ot offer you what you want.... the 124 sure is a nice option. Color wise you could always have it PC to match. Or just pc the trans black would be even less work.

Good luck with the new build.