Well the dealership must really want to sell this bike they offered to throw a set to of 259 cams as part of the deal but after researching those here and other places with stock heads and stock compression the cams lose torque and gain a minimal amount of Hp on the other hand Ive seen some great numbers with the Kury cams, my question is are those numbers on the 110 motor without head work. Thanks for putting up with me, this bike is a big purchase for me I'm out of debt on my old ones and really don't want to get into a lot of problems with the used bike, thanks for everyone's advice! PS can Harley sell the Kuryakyn cams, and maintain an extended warranty just a thought.