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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2006, 09:06:32 PM »
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I do not have any figures as of yet. Remember members of this site get a break on the price.

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When ya get 'em will be fine! Thanks. I gotta check out other possible problems first.  Price breaks are good things, too!
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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2006, 09:37:10 PM »
I also forgot to mention. After talking with Dan today he mentioned that the Zippers team will be in Myrtle Beach for the fall rally. Oct 4th through the 8th. If anyone with an 06 Dyna or any of the 07 models that would like to try the new closed loop system they will be set up at Broadway at The Beach. They will have the new system there ready to sell and install the units.

If you have an eariler bike and have an exhaust system with the bungs already installed in the pipe you can also purchase a system. They will not be able to uninstall or install exhaust systems.

And like the older version of the Thunder Max. You have a 30 trial period. If for any reason with in 30 days if you don't like or want the unit just return it for a full refund.

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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2006, 10:02:33 PM »
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I would like to thank the staff at Zippers for the great job.

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DAWG

Wake up
Thank Zippers HELL!
It appears they have created a good product but guess what!
If it is good they will sell a boatload of them.

If anybody is to be thanked, Zippers ought to be thanking you.
For almost two years I listen and read your praises of Zippers.
Lots of people on this site have Zippers parts.
I thank you and that other guy in Florida (what's his name) for that.
I can only hope that has been some consideration for you through this learning curve with them.
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Hmmm was that other guys name Outof balance?
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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2006, 10:11:13 PM »
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DAWG, you got any rough cost figures?
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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2006, 10:25:57 PM »
Pat from Zipper's quoted me today at $429.95 for the TMax and $399.95 for the 02 sensors, wiring kit.
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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2006, 03:54:46 AM »
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Pat from Zipper's quoted me today at $429.95 for the TMax and $399.95 for the 02 sensors, wiring kit.
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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2006, 04:00:32 AM »
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Actually, the T-Max replaces your stock ECM (another part to throw in the take-off box in the basement).
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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2006, 04:04:42 AM »
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DAWG

Wake up
Thank Zippers HELL!
It appears they have created a good product but guess what!
If it is good they will sell a boatload of them.

If anybody is to be thanked, Zippers ought to be thanking you.
For almost two years I listen and read your praises of Zippers.
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I thank you and that other guy in Florida (what's his name) for that.
I can only hope that has been some consideration for you through this learning curve with them.
Good job Dawg
[highlight]Hope Punkin can keep up[/highlight]! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]


Hmmm was that other guys name Outof balance?

Most likely not, more cubes and a lighter bike. But it you want to tango with something I think I know where there is a Red Dyna with a brand new motor that is just about finished that I think you could get a real good view of it's TAIL LIGHTS!!!!!!!

Looking forward to seeing the new ride in MV.

OUT OF BALANCED??????? LMAO!!!!!!!! You are still THE KING!!!!!!!!!

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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2006, 08:00:01 AM »
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Ed I am going to try to have info and a real life system in MV if you are going.

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Sounds good, look forward to seeing it and meeting you Dawg.

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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2006, 05:13:18 PM »
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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2006, 05:15:56 PM »
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Pat from Zipper's quoted me today at $429.95 for the TMax and $399.95 for the 02 sensors, wiring kit.
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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2006, 07:40:11 PM »
DC-

Thanks for taking the time and effort to  check into it for all of us.  Just about anything off of full list would be nice.  Anybody can buy something at full price, it's nice to  at least think you are getting a deal.   :)
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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2006, 10:07:26 PM »
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Jerry I am kind of curious. Who's system was this and is it a wide band closed loop system. The only ones I am aware of right now are all narrow band.

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DAWG,

I believe it was Terry Components Terminal Velocity system that I was thinking of; Daytona Twin-Tek is another.  

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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2006, 07:31:10 PM »
So does the new Thundermax use the map sensor or is it still Alpha-n? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: T MAX closed loop update
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2006, 10:48:46 AM »
Alpha-N all the way.  There are those that do not like Alpha-N systems, but with proper mapping, processor speed and enough resolution (what the early H-D system lacked), Alpha-N works fine, even better with higher degrees of engine modification than a "speed density" system.  Speed density relies heavily on the MAP sensor input, and can be confused with longer duration camshafts and an uneven engine such as the Harley.  If you research it, you'll find that most all performance EFI systems are Alpha-N based, regardless of application.  

This is not to say the factory speed density system can't be made to perform well; it will require a skilled tuner with in-depth experience with the race tuner software some time on a dyno to build a map for the application.  Which brings us back to the "proper mapping" I mentioned earlier.  With the ThunderMax's growing library of base maps, and now the addition of the Auto-Tune wide band closed loop option, the need for extensive (expensive?) dyno time is minimized, even eliminated.

There are those that will argue these points endlessly.  This is why we offer the buy-it-back guarantee.  The best way to decide is to try it!  Thanks, JK
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