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[110tHunDer]

 
Now, this thread is getting somewhere. LOL

[Heatwave]

Heatwave

It is perfectly clear you do not KNOW and understand how the HD Delphi system, TTS  Mastertune unit or the SESPT work. For that matter you have a poor understanding of how the PV works as well. Until you do it would be best for you to refrain from trying to mislead people or at least say it is your understanding instead of trying to say things are FACTS. You have a problem with people saying you are wrong and you seem to not want to learn for whatever reason. To me you have an agenda other than helping the OP. If you want to LEARN the basics you must learn the HD Delphi system and how the engine operates with it. If you would like to learn some basics, start another thread and open your mind. There are plenty of people who really do know here and I am sure they would be willing to give you a little help in another thread, if and only if your really wanting to learn.

As everyone has said this is just turn into a big joke at the expense of what the OP was trying to learn.

Sorry but I refuse to take the bait. I have no intention of returning the type of attacks you target to me or anyone else. As the owner of TTS and the original owner of the SERT, your knowledge is unquestioned. I neither have the time or the desire to know as much as you already know about the Harley ECM. And I've never suggested I did know as much as you.

OTOH I don't belittle those that know less than me which appears to be your normal MO whenever a competing product might harm your sales. Instead I share what I know and stand corrected if I learn something new that differes from my original understanding.

I'm quite confident in the knowledge I have based on the published instructions directly from DynoJet and the performance improvements I've been able to make using the PV. Nothing I've shared regarding the use of the PV deviates from the instructions and basic background provided by Dynojet. Your attempts to discredit my views and experiences does not make the products you profit from any more sophisticated. On other forums there are literary hundreds of pages of content from hundreds of PV users regarding the tuning of the Dephi ECM using the PV and the best approaches. My views are no different from the others. The only difference is that I've shared them with CVO owners through this forum and for that I'm belittled and attacked because it threatens a long standing quality product like TTS. I get it, but I suspect some of the open minded readers also "get it".

I realize you may have an issue with the fact that the PV is very popular and impacting sales of both SEPST (your original design) and TTS (your current product). Instead of attacking me, why not stick to pointing out why its an advantage for TTS to require carrying a laptop for datalogging? Or why you designed SEPST to conduct Smarttuning with a methodology that reduces timing by 4 degrees but when it comes to your own TTS V-Tuning methodology you do not use the 4 degree reduction. Maybe a little less time attacking others and a little more time sharing the advantages of TTS would be more beneficial for all.

I challenge you to read the attached methodology from Dynojet and highlight where you believe I have deviated in either understanding or practice. If you have an issue with the guidance offered by Dynojet in autotuning with the PowerVision, I suggest you take that up with your principle competitor, not a user that has had excellent results with the PV and is willing to share those results and practices with others.

Here's where my understanding and practices for autotuning with the PV originate from: http://www.dynojet.com/powervision/powervision-software-firmware-downloads.aspx?ProdType=Power%20Vision Just download the section entitled "Autotune for Power Vision Guide".

I'm open minded and welcome your input or anyone elses regarding where they think I've deviated from DynoJet's instructions for autotuning.

For those that have an honest interest in better understanding exactly what happens during an autotune, what the benefits are, what the limits are and the advantages of the PV over other alternatives this guide is an excellent starting point. For the record, straight from Dynojet  it states "Neither AutoTune Basic nor AutoTune Pro requires that you interface with a computer."

[Steve Cole]

Which model? His wife or the truck!

As for the Blue Oval folks they've been trying to smoke the small block Chevy for plenty of years but never managed to get it done for any length of time. A few wins here and there but in the long haul that little old small block set the standards and kept kicking there butt. GM produced it from 1955 - 1999 in various sizes and the Blue Oval folks over that time period tossed several different engine designs trying to dethrone it. I still feel the 351 C blue oval engine was one of there best but they didn't stick with it. My favorite Blue Oval was the Cammer engine that they put in the '63 station wagons so they could get it into Nascar racing.

Heatwave

It was not bating, just telling you the truth. Start another thread. Here is a big piece of what your missing straight from DJ but please take it to another thread if you want to learn.

"AutoTune Basic
Without any additional modules, the Power Vision will take advantage of what the ECM "sees"
from its OEM narrowband O2 sensors and use that data to achieve the target AFR. This
method works great in those operating areas where it makes sense to run in a lean state:
idle, light load, and cruise conditions. AutoTune Basic will fix the normal closed loop range,
but can also temporarily extend the closed loop range to gain insight on the actual AFR in
areas that are normally open loop (high load/high RPM). At high load/high RPM ranges this
"temporary situation" is not ideal, and this is where it is advantageous to use AutoTune Pro."

BTW this is just exactly what we have been telling people since 2008, wonder where they got it from?

[Heatwave]

Which model? His wife or the truck!

As for the Blue Oval folks they've been trying to smoke the small block Chevy for plenty of years but never managed to get it done for any length of time. A few wins here and there but in the long haul that little old small block set the standards and kept kicking there butt. GM produced it from 1955 - 1999 in various sizes and the Blue Oval folks over that time period tossed several different engine designs trying to dethrone it. I still feel the 351 C blue oval engine was one of there best but they didn't stick with it. My favorite Blue Oval was the Cammer engine that they put in the '63 station wagons so they could get it into Nascar racing.

Heatwave

It was not bating, just telling you the truth. Start another thread.

Let's see.. I think the info I've shared about the Powervision's capabilities to address the OP's originally request for enrichening his bike's engine is a wee bit more helpful and in line with this thread than posts about small block Chevys. Maybe it's possible you should start a new thread on that topic don't you think?

[IRISHSE]

IRISHSE

Are you able and willing to spend some of your time to learn and do it yourself?

Let's start with what you asked for based on the parts you are going to choose. First off you want to remove the Cat. How? New headpipe or gut the stock one? Each answer to these questions will get you closer to the answer your looking for as just the questions I have asked will need a different response.

If you are not able too or do not want to spend the time I would buy a headpipe and tune from Fullsac as many others here have done. It's a well proven package if that is the route you want to go.

I've already gutted the stock headpipe(Cat) Can I learn myself yes.  Do I have the time to do it.  Not really.  Reason for my want for a tune based on my current criteria.  Will I down the road add or modify my bike?  Unknown

[Steve Cole]

How did you gut the stock headpipe? It does makes a difference.

[SBB]

Now, this thread is getting somewhere. LOL

It was Brian, then another rant by Mr Powervision took it back to the crapper.
IRISHSE, I think you know what you need to do to resolve your concern.
I'd rather talk about those SBC's or those fast Blue Ovals than read more about the Powervision crap.
Steve was right, start another thread.

SBB

[110tHunDer]

 
Hey, hey .....what about the Pentastars?!

[hrdtail78]

Before my comments gets forumized. I have met the woman and my comment is meant in all due respect and probably taken that way by Michelle.

[Steve Cole]

Michelle would be laughing in her chair if Steve shows this too her.

[SBB]

Hey, hey .....what about the Pentastars?!

OK then,

 


SBB

[SBB]

Or check out this candy store.

http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#!/

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[Heatwave]

Which model? His wife or the truck!

As for the Blue Oval folks they've been trying to smoke the small block Chevy for plenty of years but never managed to get it done for any length of time. A few wins here and there but in the long haul that little old small block set the standards and kept kicking there butt. GM produced it from 1955 - 1999 in various sizes and the Blue Oval folks over that time period tossed several different engine designs trying to dethrone it. I still feel the 351 C blue oval engine was one of there best but they didn't stick with it. My favorite Blue Oval was the Cammer engine that they put in the '63 station wagons so they could get it into Nascar racing.

Heatwave

It was not bating, just telling you the truth. Start another thread. Here is a big piece of what your missing straight from DJ but please take it to another thread if you want to learn.

"AutoTune Basic
Without any additional modules, the Power Vision will take advantage of what the ECM "sees"
from its OEM narrowband O2 sensors and use that data to achieve the target AFR. This
method works great in those operating areas where it makes sense to run in a lean state:
idle, light load, and cruise conditions. AutoTune Basic will fix the normal closed loop range,
but can also temporarily extend the closed loop range to gain insight on the actual AFR in
areas that are normally open loop (high load/high RPM). At high load/high RPM ranges this
"temporary situation" is not ideal, and this is where it is advantageous to use AutoTune Pro."

BTW this is just exactly what we have been telling people since 2008, wonder where they got it from?

I'm not sure why you think I've missed it. I've stated that datalogging runs should be short 20mins as advised by DJ. I've also stated that it's best to start with a map closely matched to the bike's engine. In the OP's case there are plenty of maps that would be an exact match if all he's looking for is an exhaust change. Even without autotuning he'd have a far cooler running bike with a map he could load himself and upgrade as needed.

[IRISHSE]

How did you gut the stock headpipe? It does makes a difference.

Sent you a PM

[Fired00d]

Now, this thread is getting somewhere. LOL

Well it was...

Sorry but I refuse to take the bait....

Then let it go... It's been established that Steve is the product developer and has a commercial interest in SERT/TTS and you are a diehard PV user. My guess is by now most are just overlooking your post and the good information (if there is any... like I said I'm a when it comes to all this tuning stuff and leave it up to the pro's) you are sharing is not getting read.

Now Jerry (grc) as I diehard "bow tie" fan I respectfully disagree w/your "Oscar Mayer Weiner" statement.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d