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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2013, 08:49:41 PM »

bart, love those pics where you can see the whole bottom side of the engine & framework.               :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:   :orange:
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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2013, 09:23:48 PM »

Couple of things.  I went to 13" JRI shocks and 18" Agitator wheels.  The shocks actually sit the bike a little lower as the air shocks don't sag, the wheels bring it up a bit.  Even still, I don't scrape often, and it's not for lack of riding fast through twisties.  As someone else said, take a good look at your line through corners.  That can make a huge difference in how far you need to lay the bike over.  It also pays to learn how to properly trail brake, as that helps decrease your effective turning radius.  When all else fails, I scoot my butt off of the seat to the inside of the corner and hang off the bike, using my weight rather than the bike's lean to slingshot through.

Yes, you'll look ridiculous hanging off the side of a 900 pound touring bike as you're bellowing through a corner, but it's amazing how much quicker you can negotiate corners if you're using your body to help steer the bike.
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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2013, 10:27:36 PM »

I used to have a similar problem but it was knee pucks that kept wearing out.  Since I sold my sport bikes and got into Harleys I don't have that problem.  I know that scraping the floorboards mean I am at the limit. It can be more fun riding a slow bike fast than riding a fast bike fast.
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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2013, 10:53:14 PM »

bart, love those pics where you can see the whole bottom side of the engine & framework.               :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:   :orange:
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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2013, 07:52:03 AM »

I used to have a similar problem but it was knee pucks that kept wearing out.  Since I sold my sport bikes and got into Harleys I don't have that problem.  I know that scraping the floorboards mean I am at the limit. It can be more fun riding a slow bike fast than riding a fast bike fast.
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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2013, 10:10:11 AM »

I want to see pictures of the floorboard brackets worn out from dragging. I have tagged mine to the ground several times, but not to grind on them. At some point, grinding becomes unsafe, at least to me. I have riding hard on sport bikes and other HDs dragging is a lot of fun, when it is safe. My wife hates me dragging or pulling the front wheel up...
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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2013, 11:53:51 AM »

^^^ Sorry for your luck....
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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2013, 02:13:44 PM »

Couple of things.  I went to 13" JRI shocks and 18" Agitator wheels.  The shocks actually sit the bike a little lower as the air shocks don't sag, the wheels bring it up a bit.  Even still, I don't scrape often, and it's not for lack of riding fast through twisties.  As someone else said, take a good look at your line through corners.  That can make a huge difference in how far you need to lay the bike over.  It also pays to learn how to properly trail brake, as that helps decrease your effective turning radius.  When all else fails, I scoot my butt off of the seat to the inside of the corner and hang off the bike, using my weight rather than the bike's lean to slingshot through.

Yes, you'll look ridiculous hanging off the side of a 900 pound touring bike as you're bellowing through a corner, butit's amazing how much quicker you can negotiate corners if you're using your body to help steer the bike. it's amazing how much quicker you can negotiate corners if you're using your body to help steer the bike.

True That. 

I've helped several friends of mine learn how to ride the twistys more aggressively yet still stay safe.  One rider, on a Dyna, commented to me that "you're all over that bike".  Yep, that's what you have to do if you have restricted ground clearance.
 
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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2013, 02:35:40 PM »

2012 ultra. problem i have is i'm grinding on the floorboard brackets (more right side) through the corners is there anything out there to pick these up befor i high side this thing. even an half inch would be huge for the lean angle

Sounds to me like you need to take a hard look at your suspension components.  The stock front fork on any HD is crap, as are the rear shocks.  With the way you're describing your riding style, you need to take a hard look at Traxxion Dynamics AK-20 cartridges and their Bitubo shocks (from Italy).  The AK-20's are made in house, and there is nothing better...plus, they can set it up for your riding style.  There are simply limits to what you can do, however.

Sooner or later, if you drag floorboard brackets in the wrong place at the wrong time, you're going to leverage the tire off the ground and have real problems.
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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2013, 12:23:38 AM »

It can be more fun riding a slow bike fast than riding a fast bike fast.
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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2013, 08:08:28 AM »

you are at the limit on that bike, it appears that you are a skilled rider, add to that skill the limitations of the machine you are riding; a HOG just ain't a Ninja.  I ride the Blue Ridge Parkway and the area surrounding Asheville all summer long, lots of switchbacks there, occasional scrapes are common, but wearing through brackets isn't.  Tweaking the suspension will probably help (for a while) but it doesn't sound like that will scratch your itch. Maybe try a "track day" somewhere on your bike, or take a Ninja and push the limit there, the only thing worse than seeing a rider laying down his bike and sliding down the road, is seeing him sliding down the road at me.

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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2013, 06:37:45 PM »

I want to see pictures of the floorboard brackets worn out from dragging. I have tagged mine to the ground several times, but not to grind on them. At some point, grinding becomes unsafe, at least to me. I have riding hard on sport bikes and other HDs dragging is a lot of fun, when it is safe. My wife hates me dragging or pulling the front wheel up...


Here's one with the Road King.
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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2014, 10:14:51 AM »

believe me i relize i'm at the limit for this bike,still have to push it though. i've aleady changed the rear shocks to progressive stock height it helped but only from the travel aspect. i should look at the front.the suspension doesn't bottom out like the junk air shocks ( or add a half pound and be too stiff)
 if i can get just a half inch more to the hight of the floorboard brackets would be huge. far more lean angle.
 it is more fun riding a slow bike fast. there is actually alot more performance to this bike if you can get rid of some of these physical limitations. if i took the boards off compleatly i'd put the bags on the ground or damn close
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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2014, 04:10:49 PM »

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Re: grinding on the floorboards
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2014, 04:13:28 PM »

a couple of years before i got the CVO
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