Well, per the suggestion of Steve Cole, I went ahead and installed the Stage 1 Air Kit and the canned map for same on the Trike. Trike runs much better. Doesn't lose speed so easily on the hills, actually has a bit of pep in 6th gear. The only issue I have is the same issue I had for a couple tanks before doing this. Fuel mileage is terrible. Harley says 38mpg, I know that's a pipe dream, but I'd hoped for 30. I'm getting about 25 over 600 miles now. Is a VTune gonna help this down the road? I know mileage will go up a couple as it gets broke in, but this is a lot worse than I expected. Any input appreciated.
Cough... uhhhhh, that's Wizard with only one Z
Let's all sing... "I'm off to see the Wizard, the wonderful Wizard of OZ".. You're welcome, you'll be humming that tune all day now.
OK, OK... I'll type this in bold.
TRIKES ARE DIFFERENT Where they are not different is they will use the same base cal as any other 103 Touring bike. There are over 200 (says old man Cole) data points in the calibration that we can't see or touch and all these are set by Steve. They aren't for a two wheeler or a trike they are for the model, year of the bike and motor size as well as any larger modified combination he can thing of.
Why are trikes different? Beside the use of the same TTS module and the same base cal the main difference is, they have three wheels and two huge fenders in the rear. This causes an aerodynamic bubble at the riders location soooo, the rider feels more heat so he is more sensitive to it... PERIOD <-- I like saying that, no offense..
Toss in his leg position on a trike along with the additional weight and the additional storage in the truck where Momma puts everything but the kitchen sink and you have your main differences why a trike will have different VE's and timing. Lambda or AFR (with Bias), Warm up tables, Throttle Control, yadda, yadda are all the same. You may find a little difference in the AE, you may find a little difference in the PE Spark, heck, even the EGR will come into play differently on a trike but it all comes down to one simple little fact.... use the right base cal for the right motor. Grab your IVO (and IVC if you can) go get those VE's done. After that setting the timing is where you want to go. FLTR2008Trike isn't wrong, you guys are saying similar things in different ways. He just knows how the tuning will react with all that weight. Just got to trust me on this one. I do think he has built way too many big motors and completely forgot about all his trike buddies slamming in all those removed CVO 255 cams though (Sorry Tom, couldn't resist)
I've offered Cole all the TG calibrations he could stack to his ceiling. Doesn't matter... it comes from the same base cal as a two wheeler.
If you compare a TG with stage 1 to an Ultra with Stage 1... all the mentioned above is different.
btw... Steve... Haven't seen "the Bobs" around for a while, maybe just me but it's good to hear you kick'n.... take a datamaster run with your fans on... check your intake air temp. Do the same run with your oil cooler fan off. Watch the temps drop about 50*F if you are still using the football cover. The Wards won't create such an increase in intake air temp but they too run the intake temp up. Remove that football cover and get more data with fans off/fans on...
To SteveFLHTK... Until you get rid of that cat and get Steve George's X pipe on there your MPG will Suck, excuse me language. No need to find 6th gear for anything unless you are on the hwy going down hill and in a hurry. Stay in 5th, you will get better MPG. Once you flash your ECM you will start Adaptive Values all over again. If you watch and do your math you will find it takes a few three or four tanks and many key on/key off turns for the ECM to write enough adaptations to help your MPG. For the heat, forget it... you will roast until you toss the cat. Many well wishes to you, the old TTS guys here and here from other forums for one reason or another will not do you wrong. Lean on them and learn. Soon you will be very happy man. Even happier when you toss those stock smog cams.
Wiz out... you guys have fun!