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Why all the negativity with CVO's
« on: August 25, 2013, 10:58:51 PM »

I've logged over 20,000 miles on my CVO without an issue. My friends have done the same. All I hear on hear on this forum is how the lifters fail, the cranks fail, and especially how terrible HD is treating people. It's becoming a downer and the three of us in my group with CVO's don't even want to login. We love riding and have done for decades. We love our bikes and have absolutely no issues. My dealer doesn't know know of any real issues with the 110's in particular. The 2014's look nice but not enough for me to trade my Kryptonite. I don't hate the 14's at all and don't really think they will have any great issues. I know I don't post cause I'm out riding. My CVO is awesome!

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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2013, 12:14:35 AM »

 :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:  Yep what he said, I just bought and Indian Vintage, but I love my 2010 CVO for the long hauls. The 14 Cvo limited looks great and the Hydro make good sense for the MoCo to be able to create better power and meet the EPA junk they have too.
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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2013, 12:46:43 AM »

I also love my CVO -- never an issue and just returned from another trip of the Western US.  The bike is great!  As with ANY Internet site, you hear from the small minority with issues.  SJ Ron :)
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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2013, 01:00:01 AM »

It really is a great forum, you just have to stay away from all the complaining (which can be difficult) which is actually much less here then most forums. Great place to get real info and facts and see just about every mod that can be done to our bikes (which has cost me a fortune since I got my bike).
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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2013, 01:54:21 AM »

I love my 2012 CVO Ultra, it runs great and I plan to keep it a long time!  I think the 14's are super nice, and if I were in the market I would get one!  No problems here!  Life is good! ;D
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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2013, 05:23:22 AM »

I couldn't agree more. This is a great site and I also love my cvo. My 3rd is due in this week and I also have logged almost 20 k on my present cvo.

I really believe all the cry babies complaining about the 14s either just purchached a 12 or 13 and now regret their "old" technology cvo purchase, don't have a big enough wallet to afford a 14 or their wife just won't give them their balls back long enough to purchase one.

I have been riding Harleys since the 70s, back when they really were junk, to the present and have ridden tens of thousands of miles on them and have had very little issues with any of them.

The same cry babies will buy a new car or truck without a thought but nick pick every positive change Harley has made on the 14s
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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2013, 07:38:47 AM »

I've logged over 20,000 miles on my CVO without an issue. My friends have done the same. All I hear on hear on this forum is how the lifters fail, the cranks fail, and especially how terrible HD is treating people. It's becoming a downer and the three of us in my group with CVO's don't even want to login. We love riding and have done for decades. We love our bikes and have absolutely no issues. My dealer doesn't know know of any real issues with the 110's in particular. The 2014's look nice but not enough for me to trade my Kryptonite. I don't hate the 14's at all and don't really think they will have any great issues. I know I don't post cause I'm out riding. My CVO is awesome!

I agree with you.  I think a lot of it comes from the fact that the folks who have issues do post but you rarely see a post from someone who doesn't have issues saying "everything is still great!"  Glad to see your post.  Love my CVO.  If and when I do have any issue, this forum is a great place to do some research.  I have had several questions and could quickly find the information here.  Also see what others have done to their bike.
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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2013, 07:56:19 AM »

First, this is a great site and there is a wealth of information here. Have a problem, people are genuine and quick to respond.  Over the last couple of weeks, the threads on the site have been more negative than usual.  When the new models are released, it seems that some tend to throw stones at the designs and lose sight of the positive changes made by the motor company.  Frankly, I think the Motor Company is listening.  Water cooled heads and new electronic technologies are just two examples.  Am excited to see the new Road Glide.  suspect that over the next couple of years, we will see some of HDs best ever. 
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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2013, 08:07:00 AM »

First, this is a great site and there is a wealth of information here. Have a problem, people are genuine and quick to respond.  Over the last couple of weeks, the threads on the site have been more negative than usual.  When the new models are released, it seems that some tend to throw stones at the designs and lose sight of the positive changes made by the motor company.  Frankly, I think the Motor Company is listening.  Water cooled heads and new electronic technologies are just two examples.  Am excited to see the new Road Glide.  suspect that over the next couple of years, we will see some of HDs best ever. 


I agree.
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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2013, 08:09:57 AM »

I agree with you.  I think a lot of it comes from the fact that the folks who have issues do post but you rarely see a post from someone who doesn't have issues saying "everything is still great!"  Glad to see your post.  Love my CVO.  If and when I do have any issue, this forum is a great place to do some research.  I have had several questions and could quickly find the information here.  Also see what others have done to their bike.

OK, I'll say it... EVERYTHING IS STILL GREAT! Nothing has failed yet... except the VSS that I replaced myself for $50 so there is no warranty record. And the brake switch recall, for which there IS a desirable and necessary warranty record.

HOWSOMEVER...

I run the Traxxion Dynamics AK-20 cartridge forks - so it handles well and the front end doesn't dive.

I run HQ Black Ops lifters - because they are very quiet and so I don't have to worry about the H-D ones failing.

I run a Feuling cam plate and oil pump - so I get really good oil circulation and I don't have to worry about the wallowing out of the outer cam bushing area on the stock plate.

I run good Torrington cam bearings - so I don't have to worry about the crappy stock INA caged bearings failing and taking out my bottom end.

I run a Hayden primary chain tensioner - so I don't have to worry about the crappy stock tensioner ratcheting up too much and making the primary chain too tight.

I run an AIM 480 lb clutch spring, an Energy One extra plate clutch kit, and the ClutchWIZ - so my clutch doesn't slip and I can still pull the clutch lever WITH TWO FINGERS.

I run Lyndall Gold+ brake pads - to give better stopping power and so my chrome wheels don't turn BLACK with brake dust all the time.

I run Cometic .030" head gaskets - to improve the squish.

I run SE 259e cams, the Drago's S/C/S-4 2-1 pipe, and a Ness Big Sucker 2 - JUST FOR FUN!

And MAN is it FUN!

Oh... and a Tour Pak - so I have a place in which to store my BIG HAT...

Ken
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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2013, 08:18:56 AM »

OK, I'll say it... EVERYTHING IS STILL GREAT! Nothing has failed yet... except the VSS that I replaced myself for $50 so there is no warranty record. And the brake switch recall, for which there IS a desirable and necessary warranty record.

HOWSOMEVER...

I run the Traxxion Dynamics AK-20 cartridge forks - so it handles well and the front end doesn't dive.

I run HQ Black Ops lifters - because they are very quiet and so I don't have to worry about the H-D ones failing.

I run a Feuling cam plate and oil pump - so I get really good oil circulation and I don't have to worry about the wallowing out of the outer cam bushing area on the stock plate.

I run good Torrington cam bearings - so I don't have to worry about the crappy stock INA caged bearings failing and taking out my bottom end.

I run a Hayden primary chain tensioner - so I don't have to worry about the crappy stock tensioner ratcheting up too much and making the primary chain too tight.

I run an AIM 480 lb clutch spring, an Energy One extra plate clutch kit, and the ClutchWIZ - so my clutch doesn't slip and I can still pull the clutch lever WITH TWO FINGERS.

I run Lyndall Gold+ brake pads - to give better stopping power and so my chrome wheels don't turn BLACK with brake dust all the time.

I run Cometic .030" head gaskets - to improve the squish.

I run SE 259e cams, the Drago's S/C/S-4 2-1 pipe, and a Ness Big Sucker 2 - JUST FOR FUN!

And MAN is it FUN!

Oh... and a Tour Pak - so I have a place in which to store my BIG HAT...

Ken



Another positive comment here.
I'm glad the MoCo didn't offer a bike that looks as good as Ken's for 2014.
If they had he would have to start over.
Ken, the MoCo was thinking of you and wanted to save you money.
Now there is a positive!

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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2013, 08:23:35 AM »

I agree, love my 09 FLHTCUSE4. 42,000 miles with no problems and still going strong. It's like most things in life, people who are happy don't say much, and those who are unhappy make enough noise for a hundred.
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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2013, 08:32:42 AM »

I am newbie ....and have never thought for one second since I have joined this site that anyone has been negative-Just the opposite -honest - shoot you straight -go out of there way to help -where else are you going to get a straight answer if you have a issue ?? the dealer? that's a joke . Sometimes the truth hurts....
So thanks to all the "cry babies" for helping me because my 2013 CVO ultra was not as fortunate as yours and has issues-ya-ya I know  "they all do that"

Does this count as a positive comment?  
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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2013, 08:48:50 AM »

I did not know about this forum and am wondering if I would have purchased my bike had I read the comments about lack of service, engineering, regard, innovation, reliability, power, paint quality, peeling chrome, oil leak, etc., etc. If I had decided against buying my bike, I would have missed out on the best summer I have had since forever and that would have been a damn shame. Can't stop smiling when I am riding the bike. It is the best bike on the face of the earth and was made especially for me! :)  Have had no issues mechanically or with my dealer, who on their own noticed discoloration on the clutch hydraulic line and the leather on the pillion, ordered both, and changed them out during the 1000 mile service.

This past weekend as I was changing out the shocks on the bike, I found a small area which is rusted on the fuel tank, hidden by the seat, and an imperfection on the primary that was obviously there but was chromed over regardless. I intend to take the bike to the dealer and have both these issues addressed under warranty and, based on my prior experience dealing with the HD dealers, I am sure they will resolve these problems properly.

So two thoughts on the issue of negativity:

1-If the dealer does not take care of the two minor issues for me I like the option of coming to this forum and venting and having everyone agree with me that I was wronged. I belonged to another forum where, whenever a member brought up any grievance with the vendor(s), the particular vendor's fan club went on the attack mode accusing the person complaining of being a jerk or lying, etc. Not cool.

2-If any potential future CVO owner is reading the negative feelings and comments about HD, CVO line, dealers, please take is with a grain of salt. A lot of the members who post these comments are long time harley owners. Just check out their avatar, list of current and past bikes, and, despite threats of going for an Indian, BWM, etc., their comments regarding 'keeping' the harley as well. So get a Harley, join the club, mess with your bike every weekend when its raining and ride it whenever the sun is shining.

p.s. This is a great site, very helpful members, and a great source of information on why's/how to's.
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Re: Why all the negativity with CVO's
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2013, 09:05:58 AM »

Ginger is the best HD I've had so far.  Sure there are some issues as I've had with just about every other MoCo product I've ever purchased but I've NEVER been stranded by one in the middle of Bugtussle, IA.  I've always made it to where I was going and home again.  Ride great (but could be better); run great (but can be improved upon...can't really blame the MoCo on that one...they have to meet sound AND emittion standards while keeping the product a Harley...what's why aftermarket performance parts are everywhere); looks better than anything out there and there are some great looking bikes around (including the new Indian models) so yes, I'm happy with my FLHXSE3 and plan to keep her for many years to come.... ;D
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