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Re: 2014 103 WaterHead
« Reply #90 on: October 16, 2013, 08:26:28 PM »

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Re: 2014 103 WaterHead
« Reply #91 on: October 16, 2013, 09:06:43 PM »

Hi Steve,
I am ready to break the seal on my TTS but I am curious as to why Fullsac mufflers were not used on the air cooled. Also is the testing done with cats removed. Which map is best for a 2014 with open air cleaner and catless exhaust with 2.25 fullsac baffles. Thanks I have had great results with past bikes.
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Re: 2014 103 WaterHead
« Reply #92 on: October 17, 2013, 12:12:18 PM »

Test bikes have what they have on them when we get them to use. As such the calibrations are made to those parts. We can only control our in house bikes and those are the ones that will get various parts over and over again.
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Re: 2014 103 WaterHead
« Reply #93 on: October 17, 2013, 12:22:25 PM »

Test bikes have what they have on them when we get them to use. As such the calibrations are made to those parts. We can only control our in house bikes and those are the ones that will get various parts over and over again.

Steve,

 
'14 twin cooled 103 LTD using 2" Fullsac cores, open air  box, is it money well spent using a 'non' cat headpipe with a good tune using of course, TTS
or is OE headpipe sufficient?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: 2014 103 WaterHead
« Reply #94 on: October 17, 2013, 02:38:45 PM »

If it were mine I would use the Fullsac head pipe. That said I have seen cut stock head pipes that did not cause a problem and others that have very much caused problems. So trying to use a modified stock head pipe is a  luck of the draw type thing and on a 25K plus bike is it worth it to you?
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Re: 2014 103 WaterHead
« Reply #95 on: October 17, 2013, 02:44:20 PM »

If it were mine I would use the Fullsac head pipe. That said I have seen cut stock head pipes that did not cause a problem and others that have very much caused problems. So trying to use a modified stock head pipe is a  luck of the draw type thing and on a 25K plus bike is it worth it to you?

No,,,I would'nt use any other headpipe than a FullSac

i was inquiring if the $400+ for the headpipe was money well spent vs. keeping the OE headpipe
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Re: 2014 103 WaterHead
« Reply #96 on: October 17, 2013, 02:56:43 PM »

If it were mine I would use the Fullsac head pipe. That said I have seen cut stock head pipes that did not cause a problem and others that have very much caused problems. So trying to use a modified stock head pipe is a  luck of the draw type thing and on a 25K plus bike is it worth it to you?

Hey Steve... Whatchu talkin' 'bout... $25K? This is CVOHarley, man!

$25K is only the ANTE to play in THIS Poker Game!!!  :'( :drink:

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BTW, congrats on getting the new cals finished up and available. Now, about Flight Recorder...  :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: 2014 103 WaterHead
« Reply #97 on: October 17, 2013, 08:15:48 PM »

"Flight Record" Software for those of you with the Mastertune2 HD-06 interface is now released for public use. Have fun collecting data with no PC attached while you ride on those Closed Coarse test rides.
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Re: 2014 103 WaterHead
« Reply #98 on: October 17, 2013, 08:46:51 PM »

"Flight Record" Software for those of you with the Mastertune2 HD-06 interface is now released for public use. Have fun collecting data with no PC attached while you ride on those Closed Coarse test rides.

NICE! Congrats again, and THANKS!  :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: 2014 103 WaterHead
« Reply #99 on: October 17, 2013, 11:51:08 PM »

So how do you fire up the "Flight Recorder"?


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Re: 2014 103 WaterHead
« Reply #100 on: October 18, 2013, 06:50:09 AM »

you just need to run the updater and download the flight recorder program. 
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Re: 2014 103 WaterHead
« Reply #101 on: October 18, 2013, 06:52:33 AM »

ok, when's Vtune 3 coming out (with timing adjustments)?   8)
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« Reply #102 on: October 19, 2013, 09:00:27 AM »

Is flight recorder working on the 14 touring?  I too am interested in vtune 3.
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« Reply #103 on: October 19, 2013, 09:56:57 AM »

Is flight recorder working on the 14 touring?  I too am interested in vtune 3.

I ran about 200 miles on my 2014 with the Flight recorder Wednesday. You can set it up to record almost any data you like. All of my Vtuning in the was done in the dyno room so I set it up to record generic data that included detailed engine and coolant temps. Having only ever seen engine and head temps in the dyno room, I was very interested in seeing actual temps at cruising speeds. I was pleasantly surprised to see a max coolant temp of 171 deg even while cruising at 95 MPH. I will be adding two more fans in the dyno room asap! Currently the radiator fans turn off at speeds above 13 MPH. No issues on the highway, but the dyno room was another story. I have seen coolant temps as high as 230 Deg after continuous full throttle pulls. Steady 15-25 MPH traffic is another potential issue for boil over with zero fan activity. Cole and I have discussed this with mutual concern and are going to gather more data. Its possible that we may see a MPH fan on/off table in the future. My personal concerns with boil over is the location of the coolant over flow. Lets imagine your involved in a session of floor board grinding and the coolant catch tank over flows in the front and coolant migrates to the back tire? Totally possible with the current location of the coolant spill over tube. The thought of loosing the back tire at full lean and hi siding a 900 pound Bagger is a little concerning for me. I will be running my overflow tube to the rear of the bike before hitting the twisties.

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« Reply #104 on: October 19, 2013, 11:05:04 AM »

Is flight recorder working on the 14 touring?  I too am interested in vtune 3.

Yes, it works on 14 touring.  Read page 6 for yourself.

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