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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2006, 10:30:01 PM »

RobMay...this is straight from the horses mouth, unfortunately:

Yes, there is a clearance issue with the large billet brake arm on the Screamin Eagle model.  Since we must build our stuff for the masses, and most of those people have stock brake arms, you must modify the heatshield to fit on your bike.  Unfortunately, factory clearances vary enough that you may get away with simply
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2006, 10:50:32 PM »

Thanks TC. Not a good solution at all. I fully understand. My personal opinion is that this should be explained or at the least mentioned when you are going to purchase an almost $500 set of pipes. Had I known this I would have left it alone for the time being. Wonder why the V&H pipes are not having that problem? What did you think of my Bend Theory Pic?
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2006, 10:55:09 PM »

Oh yeah.... who is the horses mouth?? 8-)
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2006, 10:57:42 PM »

Rob,

I had a local shop in So. cal install my Bassani exhaust. The tech did say they worked harder than usual to install, but according to him not a huge problem. I do believe however once you get through this hassle, you will enjoy the performance improvement. I would suggest you call the "Cycle Doctor" in Costa Mesa, California, call 714 area code info, sorry I don't have his number handy. Ask for Jeff. Maybe he could tell you what he did when he installed mine.
I will post picture on Saturday.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2006, 07:47:14 AM »

Dealer installed V&H duals on my 06 at delivery, but there was little or no clearance by the brake lever.  I loosened them several times and gained some space, but evidenty the trans clamp would not hold them back as after a few miles, contact would start again. I finally did grind some off the heat shield and a little (ouch!) off the billet lever and that solved most of the problem. I've since gone to a Fat Cat which fits fine, but if I burn my leg one more time on that thing, I'm gonna take a large hammer to it and go back to true duals.  >:(  Much cooler.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2006, 08:29:19 AM »

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Thanks TC. Not a good solution at all. I fully understand. My personal opinion is that this should be explained or at the least mentioned when you are going to purchase an almost $500 set of pipes. Had I known this I would have left it alone for the time being. Wonder why the V&H pipes are not having that problem? What did you think of my Bend Theory Pic?

The bend theory would probably work, but it would need to be done before chrome or I would be afraid that over time it would cause problems with the finish, and since they have you reuse the heat shields it could cause fitment issues there as well.  An almost better solution is to try and find a different brake lever that looks the same, or modify the existing one and have it re-chromed, or live with it.

The horses mouth is the eastern distributor for Bassani, through an e-mail where I posed the question after reading your problems yesterday.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2006, 09:34:06 AM »

Thanks guys. I just got back from the Hasrley dealer and looked at a couple of bikes that happened to be there with Bassanis on them and I see what you are all saying. The heat shield or the brake pedal or both will have to be "manipulated" I think to work. I'm going to try one other thing and will let you know how it works out. I just HATE having to change that pedal!! It looks nice. I also am not thrillwed with the idea of having to cut on a perfectly good heat shiled either.

TC, as far as making them making their product "for the masses", I think if it were made properly as the stock pipe is, it would fit and look fine on a bike with a stock pedal as well as the one I saw today with a stock brake  pedal was very close to the pipe as well. I don't know why they have to make it so hard in order to save a few bucks. Build them to fit and charge a little extra if need be. Thanks again for your efforts on emailing them. I'm gonna make these puppies work one way or the other as they are the only true dual pipe out there (in the Two pipe catagory of course).
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2006, 10:51:51 AM »

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Thanks guys. I just got back from the Hasrley dealer and looked at a couple of bikes that happened to be there with Bassanis on them and I see what you are all saying. The heat shield or the brake pedal or both will have to be "manipulated" I think to work. I'm going to try one other thing and will let you know how it works out. I just HATE having to change that pedal!! It looks nice. I also am not thrillwed with the idea of having to cut on a perfectly good heat shiled either.

TC, as far as making them making their product "for the masses", I think if it were made properly as the stock pipe is, it would fit and look fine on a bike with a stock pedal as well as the one I saw today with a stock brake
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2006, 11:41:51 AM »

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I agree with you RobM...[highlight]all it would take is a tweak in the production process, and they would fit without problem[/highlight].
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2006, 11:51:12 AM »

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TC, as far as making them making their product "for the masses", I think if it were made properly as the stock pipe is, it would fit and look fine on a bike with a stock pedal as well as the one I saw today with a stock brake
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2006, 12:30:01 PM »

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Guess I'm missing something in the translation....what are Rineharts, Freedom etc.???

B, I think the reference is to the fact that the Basanni pipes are the only ones out there that the rear pipe is the same length as the front, thus the "power curve" on the rear header on the Basanni's.  In terms of true benefit accross the board, I'm not sure what difference it would make.  The only reference point I have is back in my younger days fooling around with small block chevy's, where most of the header pipes were the same length and the manufacturers used to make a big deal out of that.  I'm talking when I was 17, 18, 19 years old and was fooling around with modified/gas classes in drag racing with an older buddy of mine.  

I'm thinking I'll stick with my stock headers and SE's for now...I would have a cuss fit with the Basanni's if they didn't fit right.  I only like to do things one time, so I'll be studying on this whole pipe thing some more.

Rob...hope you get things worked out to your satisfaction, bro.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2006, 12:40:34 PM »

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B, I think the reference is to the fact that the Basanni pipes are the only ones out there that the rear pipe is the same length as the front, thus the "power curve" on the rear header on the Basanni's.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2006, 03:05:36 PM »

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Gotcha TC....kind of figured Bassani was touting some such chit as the pipe length.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2006, 05:00:15 PM »

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They come highly recommended by some, but in this case I think it's more about whether one likes the curl that fills up the black hole, and there may be some small advantage with some engines, at certain places accross the power band, but the difference is probably statistically insignificant.

Like Jerry (grc) [highlight]I would like to see a comparison of exhaust systems[/highlight]...same bike/same tuner...true duals, 2 into 1, stock headers with various slip-ons, etc.
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Re: HELP with header pipes Bassani vs. V&H...
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2006, 07:41:54 PM »

Wow -

Sorry I didnt get your pm last night.  My Vance and Hines do not go this far away....They were a bit tight in the back, but with a little re-adjustment they went fine.

Hope you get it str8..... [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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