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Another lifter question...
« on: November 14, 2013, 06:00:07 PM »

What lifters do y'all recommend (the lifters with the least failures,) and where is the best place to get them???

Some that have been mentioned; S&S Premium. GatorMan, Fueling, Woods

Is there any of these that I should stay away from?

'09 SERG 110, 259s, 10.5 / 1, stock heads

Thanks,
« Last Edit: November 14, 2013, 06:53:54 PM by FlaHeatWave »
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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2013, 06:29:37 PM »

I have used two sets of woods lifters.  Never had them go out on me yet.  They are just crazy loud for the first 5 minutes of riding till they pump up. 
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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2013, 06:53:22 PM »

S&S better than all the rest.  ;)
John
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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2013, 07:21:20 PM »

S&S better than all the rest.  ;)
John

On a stock 110, do you want/need the travel limiters in the premium S&S lifters?

Do I cut the pushrods or take the rocker arms off?  I realize with the limiters I would need adjustables.

Thanks for starting this FHW.
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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2013, 08:37:38 PM »

I have used two sets of woods lifters.  Never had them go out on me yet.  They are just crazy loud for the first 5 minutes of riding till they pump up. 
I have woods lifters, They were not too noisy at first, but they sure as hell are now when bike sits for a few days then quiet down after about 30-40 seconds. It's a little nerve racking so there coming out for a set of S&S
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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2013, 09:12:11 PM »

I had a set of Wood lifters for a few weeks back when they were fairly new to the market.  They sucked big time, never would quiet down, and when the replacement set was received from Wood (that's what took a few weeks) that set was improperly machined and the anti-rotation pins wouldn't seat in the case.  The set came with a little note stapled to the instructions that said if you ran into that problem it was due to a case machining error by the MoCo and you should just file the lifters until the pins fit.  Needless to say that set went back as well and I just went with a set of Harley "B" lifters to get the bike back on the road.  The original lifters fit that case just fine, the first set of defective Wood lifters fit fine, and the last set of Harley lifters fit the same case just fine.  I don't appreciate being jerked around or lied to by any company, not just H-D, so my opinion of Wood lifters went in the dumper.  Maybe the recent stuff is better, maybe not, I couldn't tell you.  But the entire idea of letting the valve train rattle for 30 seconds to 5 minutes after starting a bike that has sat for awhile is pure unadulterated BS, I don't give a chit what Bob Wood says.

IMHO, stick with a known product with a long history of satisfied users (S&S).

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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2013, 09:19:14 PM »

I hear ya jerry.  i just havn't bought any new ones yet.  The first set only lasted about 200 miles.  then one of them wouldn't pump all the way up again.  The second set was good for about 10k miles. Got them last fall. Then checked out everything in there and thats when it started taking awhile to pump up.   They didn't even have to sit long.  After like 10 mins or so would get the tapping for like a minute then after about 5 minutes of riding would finally quit making any noise.  I definatly will be trying s&s or something else next time. 
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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2013, 09:22:32 PM »

Jerry,
What are your thoughts on the travel limiters on the S&S??

Thanks,
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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2013, 09:36:21 PM »

Jerry,
What are your thoughts on the travel limiters on the S&S??

Thanks,


I was always under the impression that travel limiters were intended for high rpm use and were unlikely to have any impact on lifter operation for the kind of riding 99% of Harley riders do.  What they basically do is cut the available travel of the piston in half, from .200" total to .100" total.  It means the piston will physically bottom out earlier, which would have the effect of limiting how much valve lift you would lose when the piston bottoms at high rpm.  It's not something I see as being important to a street ridden Harley, but I don't claim to be an expert on the subject. 

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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2013, 08:29:23 AM »

For the normal street engine  you DO NOT NEED a limiter. No reason what soever. If you have lifters that are bleeding down and the lifter is good > something else is creating that problem fix that before going to the next step.   The S&S premium lifter is a great lifter. We have been looking into having our own lifter built and we are very close to having that ready to go. What we found along the way with other parties involved for testing manufacturing claims and such is that many of the lifters out there are not really any better or for that fact any worse ,..
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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2013, 10:28:05 AM »

S&S better than all the rest.  ;)
John

X2. :2vrolijk_21:
And we load them w/o limiters to .140-.150".
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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2013, 02:00:26 PM »

Is there any difference in noise level between  the S&S lifters and Harley B ?
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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2013, 03:39:26 PM »

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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2013, 04:32:07 PM »

Is there any difference in noise level between  the S&S lifters and Harley B ?

The B's always seemed to be good.
But the new, "more-dough-for-the-H-D-share-holder, Mexican lifters" don't seem to be.....
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Re: Another lifter question...
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2013, 04:56:53 PM »

The B's always seemed to be good.
But the new, "more-dough-for-the-H-D-share-holder, Mexican lifters" don't seem to be.....
Scott

Are you saying the newer style that went in 2013 don't seem to be very good?
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