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[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

'Have the same question about the throttle bodies as yellow09 SERG in a 113.
Also interested in the 585 easy start, no more than 10.5-1 (a little less if I could get by with it) subscribed

Less compression will only intensify what Doc has made mention of.
If anything, push it up to 10.6-10.7............it'll still have less ccp that an OEM 110" with a 255 cam.
Scott

[FlaHeatWave]

Less compression will only intensify what Doc has made mention of.
If anything, push it up to 10.6-10.7............it'll still have less ccp that an OEM 110" with a 255 cam.
Scott

Thanks Scott,
With the c/r I was concerned about fuel quality, elevation, and detonation. Florida is great but I like to travel out West often on the '09 SERG. 

[Yellow09SERG]

If the 585 is going to leave the bottom end soft below 3000 rpm then where does a person go if they have the 10.5 pistons already? With the 585 closing at 45 I figured the CCP would be decent. How short can I get on a cam and be able to find gas when riding 2 up? Anything has got to be better than this 260SE. I think I currently cross 100ftlbs at like 3200......

[HD Street Performance]

The Tman 625 is a bull right off idle, SE259 is a very different cam than the 585 yet still pulls good power with a broad torque band. Tman 590, The Wild Things 24 others. There is a plethora of good cams and nuances separate them. The pipe choice is paramount to achieving what you want.
The S&S 585 IME has always been a pleaser in the older light bikes for guys that ride hard. In a bigger motor is calms right down

[FlaHeatWave]

If the 585 is going to leave the bottom end soft below 3000 rpm then where does a person go if they have the 10.5 pistons already? With the 585 closing at 45 I figured the CCP would be decent. How short can I get on a cam and be able to find gas when riding 2 up? Anything has got to be better than this 260SE. I think I currently cross 100ftlbs at like 3200......

I had the SE Stage III Pro Kit in the '09 and travelled from FLA (93 octane, sea level) to the West Coast (90 octane 11+k ft.) 2up and loaded and really liked the 259s / 10.5-1 at 110", very little detonation (the tune was nowhere near optimized)
Since ESP will not cover the bike unless it is returned to bone stock (no pipes, tuner, nothing) I am going with a built bottom end and want to go gear drive cams to eliminate the potential tensioner issues/maintenance.

Long story short; I really like the 259s, and want gear drive cams with the same (similar) characteristics.

IMO the 260s are not well suited to the '09SERG. 

[Yellow09SERG]

I'm not sure what the 260 are good for.....not heavy enough for a boat anchor and to heavy to throw out of sight.
From where I am now anything that I could get to cross 100 by 2500 would feel like a hot rod.
FlaHeat do you have any idea where you were on CCP?
Thank you Don for the suggestions

[FlaHeatWave]

I'm not sure what the 260 are good for.....not heavy enough for a boat anchor and to heavy to throw out of sight.
From where I am now anything that I could get to cross 100 by 2500 would feel like a hot rod.
FlaHeat do you have any idea where you were on CCP?
Thank you Don for the suggestions

I don't have a clue on the CCP, had SE 10.5 pistons, 259s stock 110 heads and stock head gasket...

[GRam]

I'm not sure what the 260 are good for.....not heavy enough for a boat anchor and to heavy to throw out of sight.
From where I am now anything that I could get to cross 100 by 2500 would feel like a hot rod.
FlaHeat do you have any idea where you were on CCP?
Thank you Don for the suggestions

Have the 259e, 10.5 SE pistons and the SE MVA heads. Breaking 100 at 2800 rpm, V&H power duals header and HO slips..
Pulls real nice now, but always looking for more, may go the woods 408-6 route with roller rockers..

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

first sheet is the stage III kit from HD with stock t/b 259 cam we swapped our 577 in place. Second sheet is the same kit but with the 58 SE t/b.




Sheet above lists ported heads. It had a nasty amount of slag in the short turn area. We did remove it and had to blen it. SO fact is it got ported.. to say that they where a fully set of ported heads would be incorrect.  Roll of the dice on stock CVO heads  

Another 10.5 kit from dealer with our cam and tune stock t/b



So in the end you can run a smaller cam with that compression and t/b I would think you power numbers will be high teens tq over 120

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Several cams, that have been around for some time will do the same/same...........

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

was showing change with t/b and cam only not stating one way or the other on what one to buy.

[CVO2FIXUP]

 What pipe is on those bikes. Just list them off if you remember. Thanx.

[Badger Mike]

I had the 585 in my stock 110, but in the gear drive set up.  Can't find the Dyno sheet ( have since put in a S&S 124), but I was very pleased with the performance through the band.  I think a lot comes down to how you ride and how much you are looking to get out of your bike.

[Yellow09SERG]

Thanks Mike. I just made a tranny change and though it didn't completely solve the problem I think I can survive till I came add cubes to my 110

[Badger Mike]

Which tranny did you go with?