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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2014, 05:38:22 PM »
Ed,
Keep a positive attitude.
Assembled properly, etc. you should have NO head gasket problems....front or rear.
If your head guy picks a certain head gasket, I would go with it. If not it certainly pays to ask.
The person who modifies your parts should let you know what thickness head gasket you need to use, based on your input of what you want for final compression. Then YOU need to check the figures.
We o-ring the cylinders, and heads on Jap race motors when using power adders. Harleys, I haven't done so, because we USUALLY don't run a lot of boost, or a big load of nitrous.
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2014, 06:03:43 PM »
TR should have some good answers for you about head gasket size. thats why i went with one of his package deals, plus to many hands on it & it gets to crazy :-X for my old brain
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2014, 10:08:49 PM »
Quote from: johnsachs on January 25, 2014, 05:38:22 PM
Ed,
Keep a positive attitude.
John

We all know Murphy's Law...

Ed's Law; Murphy was a friggin' Optimist  :nervous: LOL!

The glass is always half full with me!

I don't know if the new cases come with the studs already installed?

If the cases don't come with the studs installed, I'm sure that my Tech took the High Tensile Studs (torqued 1 time) from the damaged cases and properly installed them in the new cases.

From what I read here, it's best to leave whatever studs are in the new cases at this point? It seems that the benefits (if any) of the HT studs are outweighed by the risk of damaging the cases or improper installation?

Before the input from this thread, I asked Oasis Cycles (working the cases and cylinders ~ we are not boring the cases for o/s jugs) if they wanted me to remove the studs, and Mark said to just leave them in. Later I asked Oasis to also mock up and check / set the deck height and get T.R. all the info that he needs for his headwork.

John, that picture of you is AWESOME!!!  :2vrolijk_21: A hellava launch, what a ride... I bet launching that Monster is a feeling like no other... :pepper:
What are the #s?

Thanks again!
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2014, 11:46:34 PM »
Quote from: fastfreddy on January 25, 2014, 06:03:43 PM
TR should have some good answers for you about head gasket size. thats why i went with one of his package deals, plus to many hands on it & it gets to crazy :-X for my old brain

fastfreddy, I agree with you 110%! That is definitely the way to go! and I'm sure that the Builders prefer it that way also. (less finger pointing if/when there are issues), and you know the old saying about too many cooks spoiling the pot...

T.R. got the heads yesterday, the SE 58mm TB is shipping to him 1/27, I am going to wait until he receives the TB before I take up any more of his time...
'Just going to ask him to source the Cometics, give me the p/n(for my parts list) and send the gaskets back with the heads.

The only reason that I went this route, was my deal with my Dealer, and the resources available to me.

I have put a lot of pressure on myself (my Dad was a Sr. Master Chief Machinist Mate, I was a Mechanic for almost 20 yrs)  to spec out the proper components, get everybody on the same page, and minimize issues during final assembly.
Don't get me wrong, it's freezing (had sleet yesterday) here in NW Florida, so the riding is minimal, and I'm having a blast, learning tons with this build!!!

With the Professionalism, Craftsmanship, and Cutting Edge Knowledge,(and oh yea, patience w/me :nixweiss:) of Oasis Cycles, T-Man Performance, and (yes) My Dealer, Heritage Cycles Harley-Davidson of Ft. Walton Beach, FL, I expect little, if any, issues :coolblue:  

Ed



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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2014, 12:19:27 PM »
I have a spare set of cyl's sitting on top of my tool box waiting to see the outcome! Thinking your going to be very happy with the build
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2014, 08:10:22 PM »
Ed,
It sounds like you're on the right track.
The picture is my daughter-in- law. ADRL's fastest woman on 2 wheels, and first women world champion in that sanction. She has run a best of 4.02 @ 180.21.
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2014, 12:42:39 AM »
Quote from: johnsachs on January 26, 2014, 08:10:22 PM
The picture is my daughter-in- law. ADRL's fastest woman on 2 wheels, and first women world champion in that sanction. She has run a best of 4.02 @ 180.21.
John

At this point I'm just sweatin' the small (clearance) stuff on the heads / cylinders. Hopefully, we can all stay on the same page...

Sounds like a fun family.
Congrats to all on the Racing Program!
'Would love to see y'all run, if you're still doin' it...
World Class #s!!!

Ed
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2014, 07:29:38 PM »
Still at it.
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2014, 07:32:47 PM »
Quote from: johnsachs on January 27, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
Still at it.
John

What circuit / tracks do y'all run?
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2014, 10:17:36 PM »
Quote from: Yellow09SERG on January 23, 2014, 06:52:07 PM
Oasis built an open check book plus 113 / DD7 for my good friend's Skunk last year, and it is a rocket (almost 40k miles already), but since he has a black motor, he has a S&S 124 on the shelf (no kidding).

Was that motor built with the factory cyl's or was it built off the Revolution platform.
The 117 would actually be my choice of builds and probably have more fear of the base gasket on the o-ring 110 case than I do the Nikasil cyl's.

David,
Factory Cylinders ~ Everybody including S&S told me that there were no mechanical reasons, that boring the stock cylinders .060 was fine. And the cases don't require boring.

The Boys at Oasis tell me that they haven't seen any issues (sealing or otherwise) with the Revolution stuff

'Gave the Revolution 117 a good bit of consideration, cost was a factor (definitely need a clutch then :pepper:,) My Dealer was also a factor (I promised him that I would be conservative if he would stand behind it :nervous:), have a stock looking motor, and I was satisfied with the performance of the Stage III in the '09.(The '01 Switchblade traps around 120 :bananarock:) All things considered, I figured that this build would be understressed and still be fun to ride.

My deal with this build was a little bit different, if I was to go to one source (Builder), that does a good many 117 'kits' then I would have given the 117 a lot more consideration.  
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2014, 10:26:41 AM »
Save a good parts list for me....lol. I may need some in the future.
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2014, 03:46:52 PM »
Quote from: Yellow09SERG on January 28, 2014, 10:26:41 AM
Save a good parts list for me....lol. I may need some in the future.

Already working on it  :coolblue:
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2014, 10:31:27 AM »
Quote from: Yellow09SERG on January 28, 2014, 09:07:40 PM
:2vrolijk_21:

Will have two of the 113 builds done here soon, you need to take a road trip. we can go for a spin :vrolijk27:
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Re: 113" Build, Am I headed in the right direction?
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2014, 02:00:46 PM »
Talked with a guy the other day that you we starting or maybe just finishing up
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