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Zaino
« on: November 26, 2006, 01:32:42 PM »

Haven't seen too many folks using this product.
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2006, 12:48:09 AM »

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Re: Zaino
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2006, 01:50:45 PM »

I ordered some of the Glare products, as it may well be a superior polish to Meguiars, Harley, or Zaino.  I also read few things on their site about their so-called covalent bond.  It is 100% ludicrous!  First they talk about the negative charge that forms the bond (negative charged particles cause ionic bonds such as that seen in salt: NaCl).  These are weak bonds in that the individual atoms separate in water.  Then they go on to claim that the negative charge forms a covalent bond
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2006, 01:42:35 PM »

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Could never figure why Zaino calls it a polish either.  Use it on my car/truck.  Mixing 1 ounce will put 3 coats on a Ford Supercrew p/u..  Still use P21S on the SEEG2..    One side note, just use Zaino's car wash with their products as it will remove P21S..  "Polish for perfection, wax for protection"..
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2006, 04:10:15 PM »

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Re: Zaino
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2006, 04:39:01 PM »

Yea...what he said... ;) ;)  

Glare...thanks for the explanation of how your product works.  I know enough about chemistry to be dangerous, but do understand the concepts you have explained so well here.  

One thing I do know for sure...over the years, I have used almost every wax, polish, bonding agent...even those used by one of the top detailing shops in Birmingham who does show vehicles...and your product, Glare, is the ONLY thing that has ever given me the results I can see with my own two eyes, plus it's easy to use.

I have thrown out all my other products as they pale in comparison and were only taking up shelf space.  Thank you for an excellent product, and for sharing your expertise.   [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2006, 08:10:17 PM »

Glare, you have quoted a lot of impressive basic chemistry, but you clearly do not have a degree in chemistry, because you are confusing oxidation/reduction reactions with ionic reactions. First, you state the reaction is a redox reaction, and follow up this remark with:

"That is why the Active ingredient in GLARE, Glassplexin, has to be some sort of anionic (meaning negatively charged ion) chemical compound."

You then go on to state that when ions of opposite charge come together they form a covalent bond.
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2006, 11:45:22 PM »

My test of Glare vs. others will be evaluated in the following ways:

1. Under fluorescent light (shows swirl marks best).

2. Under sunlight (shows the gleam best).

3. The touch test:  how easily a finger slides over the finished surface.

4. The water test:  how well water beads and falls away from the surface.
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2006, 01:45:20 AM »

I never quoted text.
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2006, 02:23:42 AM »

Didn't know I had a gag reflex.
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2006, 07:12:45 AM »

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My test of Glare vs. others will be evaluated in the following ways:

1. Under fluorescent light (shows swirl marks best).

2. Under sunlight (shows the gleam best).

3. The touch test:
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2006, 07:19:54 AM »

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I have used Zaino products for a few years now. I actually found them on a Ford Diesel site. My F350 has had Zaino on it for over 5 years now. Those of you in MV saw the truck and trailer. Many comments were made about how good the NEW TRUCK looked. Well as I told everyone it was almost 6 years old and I had driven through the rain on the way down. So in my mind it was filthy. But still looks so good. Hell I wanted to buy a new truck this year and "V" went through the roof. [highlight]She even made the statement that she would buy it so we would still have it.[/highlight]

DHTDHT I am waiting on your results. If Glare is a better product then so be it and I will give it a try. But after using Zaino for so many years with great results it might be hard to switch over.

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Re: Zaino
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2006, 07:41:27 AM »

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Re: Zaino
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2006, 08:57:42 AM »

I'm with DC on the Zaino.  It is the only product I have used that will bead up even when covered in winter salt/dirt/grime.  When the truck is covered in the aforementioned, I can wet the truck before I soap up and it beads.  It seals the paint from the environment.   There is an application process to it and if not followed, you won't be happy.   It is the petard.     [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2006, 11:46:36 AM »

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Sure wish he was still here!


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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2006, 11:47:36 AM »

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Re: Zaino
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2006, 02:19:31 PM »

My Mom and Dad both said I'd miss them when they were gone and they were so right.

2lane-Thanks for the grammar lesson.  I actually used some pretty big words in the previous Zaino post
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2006, 04:13:35 PM »

Thread hijackings everywhere. This one however, when on topic, was just starting to get good. We might need a ref. in there soon. I'd like to see these two chemists go at it and see who come's out standing. So far I have DHT ahead with Glarepro on the defensive, doing a little a little rope-a-dope. And DHT has no vested interest in the products (I hope). He just wants his bike looking it's best, just like the rest of us. I'm dying to see the results of his test. I just hope I can understand it when it's posted.
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Thread hijackings everywhere. This one however, when on topic, was just starting to get good. We might need a ref. in there soon. I'd like to see these two chemists go at it and see who come's out standing. So far I have DHT ahead with Glarepro on the defensive, doing a little a little rope-a-dope. And DHT has no vested interest in the products (I hope). He just wants his bike looking it's best, just like the rest of us. I'm dying to see the results of his test. I just hope I can understand it when it's posted.
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2006, 04:57:00 PM »

You two are making my head hurt! [smiley=confused5.gif]
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2006, 04:58:27 PM »

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But what the Glare weine.....
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Re: Zaino/ even more Off Topic
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2006, 05:03:21 PM »

While waiting for the test results, and as long as this thread is hijacked, might as well add to it.

I think Boatman meant Zaino is the "Merde", not "petard".  Then again maybe not.

Hoist is actually going to be "hoist by his own petard" by continuing to discuss his rapidly increasing OCD, (as the Shakespearean saying means "to be caught up in a trap of ones own making").

And while we are way off topic "environment" is the correct spelling.

Now where are those test results?
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2006, 05:06:44 PM »

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I knew that in an unrelated post DCFireman said this was the best stuff since sliced bread that the stuff was good stuff, and the next time I go shopping for this kinda stuff, I would look at it.
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2006, 05:14:30 PM »

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That chit is great Don. [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] Was trying to get some work done, while going back to this. I let out a roar and got some real funny looks, as I wasn't on the phone or talking to anyone. We might not need his discount after DHT gets done with his thermo-nuclear analysis of these products. I think he's probably gonna tell us to go back to Turtle Wax for $4 bucks a can. I haven't tried the Glare yet. I should have made sure I got [highlight]a 2 year Warranty on it![/highlight]
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« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2006, 06:24:58 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2006, 06:34:31 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2006, 06:38:06 PM »

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...is making his first posts as a member, and not as a vendor. If it's the former, he must really love this chit. If it's the latter, he should introduce himself as a vendor and explain his mysterious appearance here just as someone has questioned his product's claims.
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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2006, 07:21:09 PM »

Well.....I like Crystal Glo and don't know anything about its' molecular structure and really don't need to unless at some point I decide to drink it.  Besides that, it doesn't make your scoot smell like a HONDA..... [smiley=orange.gif]
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« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2006, 07:27:35 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2006, 08:01:49 PM »

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Don, I have another concern. Is he actually a member with a CVO/HD as his new status indicates? I find it to be an awfully odd coincidence that he just joined and is making his first posts as a member, and not as a vendor. If it's the former, he must really love this chit. If it's the latter, he should introduce himself as a vendor and explain his mysterious appearance here just as someone has questioned his product's claims.
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Don, I have another concern. Is he actually a member with a CVO/HD as his new status indicates?


There's not any doubt he's just here to defend his product.  And honest to god that's fine.  It's even good.  But there's a limit to what a sober head can take isn't there.

We are an inclusive bunch though Hoist.
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« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2006, 09:10:02 PM »

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He says that like it's the first time that ever happened.
Hell, it's a common occurance for me.[smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]


Oh yeah, that's right.  Twolanerider.  Bad thought virgin.  Is anyone buying that  [smiley=nixweiss.gif] ?

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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2006, 09:14:00 PM »

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Well.....I like Crystal Glo... it doesn't make your scoot smell like a HONDA..... [smiley=orange.gif]


I personally prefer Macallan.  It's never made me smell like Honda either.
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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2006, 09:27:00 PM »

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The way I understand it from ealier posts, he was recently invited over here by a member of the site (Rjob???) who ordered some product from them after I and others talked Glare up and did not come as a vendor, per se.
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« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2006, 10:44:25 PM »

I agree DC, Zaino seems to be the best and safest sealant/finish I have used. I'll probably do the test in about two weeks. I'll do three side-by-side strips on a dark painted tank.
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« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2006, 11:15:32 PM »

ALRIGHT!
Please god no more chemistry!!!!
i barely passed in high school..and don't real give a damn
I got a box sitting in the garage with some unidentified new wizbang polish like stuff to put on my  [smiley=cherry.gif] and Ford....  and my po po car for that matter...

so....  all you polish experts...  run the side by sides... i am curious about the results...  
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« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2006, 01:13:24 AM »

Well since Enquiring Minds Want to Know, I for one would like to hear the gory details. Breaks up the Britney news "flashes" in any case. On second thought, maybe she could use some "Zaino" or "Glare" on her exposed parts, or even Turtle Wax....whatever

Today I had a friend over from Newport Beach who (claims he) got Armor All off the ground and he was giving me the same "polymer bonding" this and  "spaghetti shaped molecules" that pitch. Made me think of this thread. And I grilled him hard. Hard enough to find out that he didn't know the difference between ionic and covalent bonds either as he thought Armor All was an ionic bond..

I like to hear what an expert in the field has to say as long as it isn't any more technical than what we have had here. After all, this is a specific thread, if you don't want to hear about Zaino, and the claims that Zaino makes, you can go to the Turtle Wax thread, or even start one.

Myself, I probably would never buy any 100 dollar wax/sealant kit, but I still would like to hear the discussion.
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2006, 04:10:54 PM »

Hello Fellow Bikers!
Sorry for the lack of introduction on my part on my first post as I was too busy defending an accusation
of misrepresentation on behalf of GLARE which as you know is always taken very seriously.  My name is Ken and I am one of 5 Chemists from ULTRA 2000 who helped develop the GLARE Line of Professional Products.  2 of us 5 chemists including myself are also big motorcycle enthusiasts owning a Harley FXRS Low Rider, a HONDA RC-51, a Suzuki GSX-R750, a Hayabusa, a Ducati 748R, a Ducati GT1000, and a Vespa GT200 between the 2 of us.  
I also have a Piaggio BV200 Scooter.  One of us 5 chemists (Perry) was invited to this forum by one of your many members who was amazed by the results of our products.  He informed me that there was a thread on here questioning the factual integrity of how our product chemically interacts with paint.
When I read that someone was claiming that our product does not chemically interact with the paint in the specific way that we claim it does, I had to start my first post by addressing this accusation by a person who seems to have a lot of vested interest in Zaino.
That was the reason for the technical chemical breakdown (Which believe it or not, I tried to put as much in layman's terms as I could).  I thought that I would kill 2 birds with one stone. 1, inform the forum inhabitants on one of the factors that causes paint to fade, as well as how Glare interacts with the paint from a chemical standpoint.  And 2,  Defend the integrity of a Product that does exactly what we say it does as proven by Labs in the US, Japan, and Singapore.  Of course the fact that HONDA tested GLARE in their own labs for over a year, endorsed, and purchased an enormous amount of GLARE also confirms the superiority of our product and how it works.  HONDA also advertises the product as one that bonds covalently with the paint which they would not do without proving this through testing first.  This helps to reiterate that our product outperforms ALL others as HONDA did not purchase any other Polish or Sealant product including Zaino, because GLARE beat out the competition in all aspects of testing including appearance tests, protection tests, and performance testing that included track time as well as wind tunnel tests.  We also Conform to Boeing's Test #D617487.
These are facts that the other Polish and Sealant Manufacturers do not want you to know.
Here is a simple breakdown on Polishes/Waxes/Sealants.
There are natural Wax based products (Carnauba, Plant derived Waxes, Paraffin, Ceraffin, Beeswax,),
Synthetic Wax based products (Man made Polymers including PTFE and Acrylic based Polymers),
Silicone based products,
and last but not least GLARE which is Glassplexin based.
Non of the types of products mentioned above have been proven to react chemically with the paint to create a covalent bond with the paint or clearcoat except for one, GLARE.  And like a very famous scholar once said,
"The Proof is in the Pudding!"
I could also go into other inferior attributes of the other types of products when compared to GLARE like low melting points, and surface tensions but I don't want to bore everyone again with more Chemical Jargon. LOL!
I would like to take this opportunity to thank all members of this forum who have purchased GLARE and taken the time to give us their testimony and experience with our product.
Also if you have ANY questions regarding the application process of any of the products in our line or any questions regarding your vehicle's finish please feel free to contact us at any time.
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2006, 05:00:22 PM »

 :)
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« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2006, 05:29:19 PM »

Ken...Your further explanation is appreciated.
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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2006, 06:19:21 PM »

For the record, I have no vested interest in Zaino.  I just tried it after reading about it on a sportscar site (Honda S2000).  I do like the product, but I think it is overpriced. Thus, always looking for a better product.
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« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2006, 07:08:53 PM »

Welcome Ken!!  Glad to see that you introduced yourself, and hope that you continue to make contributions.  We are all a good group of folks, and most take special pride in their bikes and how they appear.  Not only that, but most of us want products that not only make out bikes look good, but also offer the best protection and longevity.

Like BLM said, we would like to have you set your company up on the Vendor section so specific questions/answers could be addressed.  If you could offer some discount to members here, that would just be icing on the cake, as I'm sure you could make up any loss in dollars by volume.

Personally, I appreciate all your posts here, and the alternate view as well.  I KNOW your product works, so don't need to be convinced, and look forward to using your line of paint care products for years to come.

Again, welcome aboard...you're a biker, no matter what you ride...if it's got two wheels, you're one of the motorcycling community, and that is always a good thing!!  Good to have you here!!
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« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2006, 10:20:32 PM »

Well, now I'm confused......are we gonna use the Glare/smell like a Honda Polish on our scooters 'cause it's the best shine/scratch remover or not.  Ya'll get me started in one direction and : WHAM !!  A 360.  :o  Gotta spend more time reading these posts, I guess.  :-/ har!  spyder
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« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2006, 11:58:56 PM »

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[highlight]Hello Fellow Bikers!]Sorry for the lack of introduction on my part on my first post as I was too busy defending an accusation of misrepresentation on behalf of GLARE which as you know is always taken very seriously.
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« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2006, 03:28:06 AM »

Ken thanks for your reply. As I am one who does and has used Zaino for YEARS. I like most others here will wait for DHT's test result. His test may not as technicial as Honda's were but under Flouresent lighting you can and will see EVERYTHING. I have had a few good looking vehicles in the past and have always used Zaino. If the test results show your product better I am always ready for a change. Tooooo bad I have a 3 year supply of Zaino though.

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« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2006, 07:46:47 AM »

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. . . There is apparently still a difference of opinion to resolve. I personally would like to hear about the results of DHT's test. And you should be confident that, if your claims are accurate, your product will exceed the performance of your competitor's products. Frankly, I'm hoping that's the case myself.  I bought your Concourse kit last month, and it would be nice to confirm that I did buy the best possible product available.

Hoist, I know you don't have your CVO yet, but don'tcha have anything you can try your Glare out on yourself??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

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« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2006, 08:04:05 AM »

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Hoist, I know you don't have your CVO yet, but don'tcha have anything you can try your Glare out on yourself??? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]


Exactly Brian!

Is orange better? Is cherry the fastest? Is black and blue best looking?
Hell it's all personal choice!
The test is fine but  [smiley=beatdeadhorse.gif]  is not necessary.
If someone likes one over the other then use it.
Go out there and polish that bike!
It's 22 here and we can't ride till lunch so I'm gonna go put some of that cheap chit I use on the Classic! It's been a week since it's been waxed! I'm a little behind on the wax schedule!

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« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2006, 08:33:53 AM »

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Exactly Brian!

Is orange better? Is cherry the fastest? Is black and blue best looking?
Hell it's all personal choice!
The test is fine but  [smiley=beatdeadhorse.gif]  is not necessary.
If someone likes one over the other then use it.
Go out there and polish that bike!
It's 22 here and we can't ride till lunch so I'm gonna go put some of that cheap chit I use on the Classic! It's been a week since it's been waxed! I'm a little behind on the wax schedule!

Go Brian!

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Exactly!!!!!! This entire chemical compound jargon doesn't help me understand what I want to know. I would rather take the endorsement/comments of members I know here that have used the product.

For those that were a bit taken by Glarepro's first post take a step back and think how you would react if someone said they were an authority (in this case Chemist) on the subject and something you represented/said was "challenged" and called "ludicrous" and asked you to prove it....

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In terms of various other products creating a covalent bond with the paint, [highlight]I seriously doubt this claim.  I have a degree in chemistry, and know something about this subject.  I would challenge any manufacturer or sales person to tell me what compound in the paint is bonded to what compound in the product.[/highlight]  The answer is almost predictable:  this is a proprietary secret.  I would love to be proven wrong.  While these specialty polishes may do a great job, many other products will do just as well. I frequently ask car collectors what they prefer, and the answer is shocking:  the majority like Turtle Wax!!!  I personally have no experience with it!

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I ordered some of the Glare products, as it may well be a superior polish to Meguiars, Harley, or Zaino.  I also read few things on their site about their so-called covalent bond.  [highlight]It is 100% ludicrous![/highlight]  First they talk about the negative charge that forms the bond (negative charged particles cause ionic bonds such as that seen in salt: NaCl).  These are weak bonds in that the individual atoms separate in water.  Then they go on to claim that the negative charge forms a covalent bond
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2006, 08:50:29 AM »

I don't believe you can purchase a bad polish, wax, or sealer in today's marketplace.
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« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2006, 09:30:52 AM »

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Exactly Brian!

Is orange better? Is cherry the fastest? Is black and blue best looking?
Hell it's all personal choice!
The test is fine but
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« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2006, 10:43:48 AM »

Ken,

Welcome to the site!  Like quite a few others here, I bought the concourse kit on the recommendation of the people on this site.  I've used the Groitt's stuff and McGuiers previously.  I decided to try it on one of my saddlebag lids that had quite a few surface scratches from passengers getting on and off.  These scratches didn't come out with the 2 products mentioned in this thread.  All I can say is that I followed the directions for the 3 products in the kit, and while it's a bit time consuming, I have a very shiny, scratch-free lid again!  Now all I have to do is get the ambition to do the rest of the bike...
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« Reply #54 on: December 09, 2006, 11:02:24 AM »

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« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2006, 11:48:25 AM »

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Not when it's 17 deg I don't! Plus if you think I'm gonna take the time to do the "Pepsi Challange" vs. using my old Zymol polish now, NOT! If I'm convinced by people I think I can rely on that something's better , I'll try it. If it's not better, Oh well. In the summer, sometimes the bike only gets washed by sitting in the rain!
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« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2006, 11:49:14 AM »

Ken, welcome and thanks.  I'll be as technical as I know how here.  I really like the shiny chit  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] .
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For you buddy, anything.
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« Reply #60 on: December 09, 2006, 07:29:35 PM »

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Re: Zaino
« Reply #61 on: December 09, 2006, 07:47:53 PM »

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Not when it's 17 deg I don't! Plus if you think I'm gonna take the time to do the "Pepsi Challange" vs. using my old Zymol polish now, NOT! If I'm convinced by people I think I can rely on that something's better , I'll try it. If it's not better, Oh well. In the summer, sometimes the bike only gets washed by sitting in the rain!
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #62 on: December 10, 2006, 02:59:59 AM »

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Lots of posts in here for something you don't give a $h!t about. [smiley=nixweiss.gif] [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]



If there was a 2 year warranty the man would be psyched though  [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] !
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« Reply #63 on: December 10, 2006, 05:24:14 AM »

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Lots of posts in here for something you don't give a $h!t about. [smiley=nixweiss.gif] [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]


I'm talking about NGTS about the Chemicalese Techno Babble. If I didn't care about the polish either, I wouln't be reading this thread. I would have lost interest after the 1st CTB post.
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #64 on: December 10, 2006, 09:35:25 AM »

To me all polishes look about the same when freshly applied but I have not found anything that takes out the fine scratches like the the 3 step kit.
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Re: Zaino
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2006, 10:45:58 AM »

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To me all polishes look about the same when freshly applied but I have not found anything that takes out the fine scratches like the the 3 step kit.
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