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[FlaHeatWave]

If you swapping the head pipe have the head pipe ceramic coated will yield massive gains on the heat you are feeling.

From the suggestions given to me from this great forum, I sent my V&H PowerDual head pipe & Roland Sands Design mufflers to PolyDyn Coatings for their Titanium Ceramic Coating for the '09 SERG 117 Build.

"The Ball & Chain" has mentioned several times that she feels almost no heat compared to before the coating.

The bike was well tuned with the SE Stage III kit before the 117 and the coatings.

Not a real test as I had the pipes coated while building the motor, having the pipes coated after the 117 was up and running would have been a better test, but I was ready to ride...

The PolyDyn Coatings ain't cheap, but I would do it again, as the bike is much more comfortable for me also.

[grc]

I notice the 110 engine really heats up. What can be done about it? Oil cooler?

RoadDawg, how about telling the guys what model bike you're riding?  Then perhaps you won't get ten or twenty responses telling you to replace the headpipes to eliminate the catalyst, or telling you the bike comes with an oil cooler from the factory.  I'm assuming the bike pictured in your avatar is the bike you're talking about.  Sure doesn't look like a Touring model, and those are the only ones that have cats in the headpipes and come with a standard oil cooler.

Jerry

[RoadDawg]

"RoadDawg, how about telling the guys what model bike you're riding?"

I'm riding a 2014 CVO Breakout with Bassani ProStreet Turnout pipes.

[hrdtail78]

Those are pretty free flowing pipes, and shouldn't be contributing to the heat.  Did the bike get tuned with those pipes?

The next place is the cam.  You have a 25 degree closing, 13 degrees of overlap.  The cam Scott keeps suggesting has a 40 closing and 40 overlap.  That would give much more air flowing though that engine.  Air cooled inside and out.

Plenty of cams on the market to choose from that will help with air flow through that engine.

[dicko]

So you guys with the water cooled 2014's.....do they run cooler...can you tell a big difference?

I went from a 2013 Ultra Limited Anniversary Edition to a 2014 CVO Limited water pumper and cannot tell the difference in heat.  The 2013 was Fullsac Stage I and so is the CVO and they are both heat monsters.  Here in the desert, sitting at a traffic light even in relatively cool 90s temperatures, is pure torture.
     -Dick-

[Cat Eye]

I went from a 2013 Ultra Limited Anniversary Edition to a 2014 CVO Limited water pumper and cannot tell the difference in heat.  The 2013 was Fullsac Stage I and so is the CVO and they are both heat monsters.  Here in the desert, sitting at a traffic light even in relatively cool 90s temperatures, is pure torture.
     -Dick-

 

Thanks....that is not what I was hoping hear.  I am on the bubble on getting a new bike next year.  I was hoping that the water cooled really made a difference.  I currently take my lower fairing off during the summer months....for me it seems to keep me cooler.  But with the water cooled, I will loose this option.  What to do...What to do....

[05Train]

I went from a 2013 Ultra Limited Anniversary Edition to a 2014 CVO Limited water pumper and cannot tell the difference in heat.  The 2013 was Fullsac Stage I and so is the CVO and they are both heat monsters.  Here in the desert, sitting at a traffic light even in relatively cool 90s temperatures, is pure torture.
     -Dick-

That's interesting.  I rented a non-CVO Limited last week in Texas.  Temps got into the low-90s, and I was pleasantly surprised at how not-hot that bone stock bike was.

[slimdude]

If you want a simple install that looks really clean, try this set up....  http://www.wardspartswerks.com
I installed these fans a couple of months ago and love them. My oil temp used to peak out at 300 in traffic on a hot day and she would go into safe mode. Since installing these, I haven't seen oil temp any higher than 240. Jason at Wards Parts Werks is easy to deal with and all about customer service! Ck out all the study data on his site.

Slim

[phato1]

If you want a simple install that looks really clean, try this set up....  http://www.wardspartswerks.com
I installed these fans a couple of months ago and love them. My oil temp used to peak out at 300 in traffic on a hot day and she would go into safe mode. Since installing these, I haven't seen oil temp any higher than 240. Jason at Wards Parts Werks is easy to deal with and all about customer service! Ck out all the study data on his site.

Slim

X2  And look into Jason's thermostat for the oil cooler - it will also help lower your temps.

[CVO Aqua-Glider]

So you guys with the water cooled 2014's.....do they run cooler...can you tell a big difference?

My 2014 Ltd. runs cooler than the 2011 Ltd it replaced. It is very noticeable.

[wachuko]

 

Thanks....that is not what I was hoping hear.  I am on the bubble on getting a new bike next year.  I was hoping that the water cooled really made a difference.  I currently take my lower fairing off during the summer months....for me it seems to keep me cooler.  But with the water cooled, I will loose this option.  What to do...What to do....

Same boat here... and I just hate to remove and install the lowers... love how the bike looks with them... I might have to bite the bullet and remove them during summer anyway...

I have the FuelMoto Jackpot Ceramic Coated Headpipes (ceramic coated inside and out), Fullsac 2.0” CVO Muffler Cores, PowerVision, and the wardspartswerks fans (these might help the engine but just send more heat to my right leg)

I will search the forum to see if there are others with a PowerVision that would share the map they are running to compare with mine... I will connect the PowerVision display to monitor temperatures as I use the bike over the summer.

[badboytino]

I installed wardspartswerks fans and this alone has helped immensely. I also swapped out the stock thermostat with one that Jason sells, this along with the fans has been a blessing. Since August of 2013 until yesterday the highest temperature recorded on the Thundermax was 254 degrees, thats traveling to Vegas a few times too. I agree with Jasons logic, keep the oil cool rather than try and cool the oil after its hot, this inturn will keep the engine running at a lower temp.

[Dr.D]

Good read and I will be doing a little to the new CVO Limited. New header pipes for sure but will decide between the Fulsac and the V&H. I was very pleased with the V&H on the Road King I just traded away but would consider the others if i felt there was something to gain. I want to keep this bike quiet and really do not want to affect the sound much if any. I am over the loud, I am so bad azz, bike for touring. The CVO Fatbob on the other hand needs to stay vulgar and loud as it is a totally different bike and riding experience.

Tuner ls for sure and not real keen on a cam change. oh don't get me wrong I love the 259e cams and hc pistons in the Fatbob just not sure I need all that right now.?

Please feel free to comment with your opinions.

[Kilaani]

I went from a 2013 Ultra Limited Anniversary Edition to a 2014 CVO Limited water pumper and cannot tell the difference in heat.  The 2013 was Fullsac Stage I and so is the CVO and they are both heat monsters.  Here in the desert, sitting at a traffic light even in relatively cool 90s temperatures, is pure torture.
     -Dick-

Hey, greetings from Henderson, Dick. I rode 440 miles yesterday and even with my Fullsac it's still hot. When I got my 2012 2 years ago it was unbearably hot, after Steve George fixed me up Stage II (?) it was so much better; but still, after a full day of riding, had a heat rash on the back of my right calf and thigh...it was fine on the left. Just no ways around it in the desert. Still love it here, tho, ride year 'round!


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[Kilaani]

Good read and I will be doing a little to the new CVO Limited. New header pipes for sure but will decide between the Fulsac and the V&H. I was very pleased with the V&H on the Road King I just traded away but would consider the others if i felt there was something to gain. I want to keep this bike quiet and really do not want to affect the sound much if any. I am over the loud, I am so bad azz, bike for touring. The CVO Fatbob on the other hand needs to stay vulgar and loud as it is a totally different bike and riding experience.

Tuner ls for sure and not real keen on a cam change. oh don't get me wrong I love the 259e cams and hc pistons in the Fatbob just not sure I need all that right now.?

Please feel free to comment with your opinions.

If you want performance, I think the collective here on CVO Harley will say Fullsac, especially if you're looking to stay on the quieter side. TTS goes very well along with that!


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