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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #90 on: December 21, 2006, 08:37:04 AM »

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The two black bikes I own are at my second home in Vermont. I live primarily in Arizona. As to why I want to wait a bit on my new CVO bike, I guess I just don't want to polish a bike that doesn't need it yet. [highlight]BTW, it is a Springer, not a SEUC, and it is dark blue.[/highlight] I'd like to wait a bit to let some swirl marks develop so that I can see a difference.
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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #91 on: December 21, 2006, 08:48:16 AM »

we're just all a little impatient to get the test results of a  'hands-on' test of the newest swirl-remover.  I'll just have to go get another beer and wait, I guess.  :-/ har!  [smiley=drink.gif] spyder
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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #92 on: December 21, 2006, 10:55:10 AM »

Spydy...the Webikeworld site has a test on a black tank showing the results of the Spider product and the Pro...In fact, they even show the results on chrome.  It doesn't show a side by side with other products though.

I would like to know how long it is from time painted to assembly to delivery on a CVO bike?   Does anyone have an idea?  I would assume that the tins would be delivered for installation on the line, with probably the rear fender and/or inner fairing going on first...the tank, front fender, outer, and of course the side panels could go on after almost everything else was done.  I'm talking about a SEUC of course...the only thing that might have to go on quickly on the other models is the rear fender.  Just wondering so that others might get an idea about whether the paint is already "cured" a sufficient time by the time we pick our scooters up from the dealer...a lot of the dealers "detail" the bikes before pick up...which would include some kind of waxing/polishing.  It has been my experience with all dark colors, whether on a vehicle or boat, that it is all but impossible to wash/clean the surface without swirl marks eventually showing up, no matter how careful one is.  The road grime we pick up while riding sticks like glue to the surface, and even if I rinse thoroughly before hand washing, there's still going to be some fine grit on the surface that just won't come off without a good wash product and a mitt...I'm as anal as anyone about keeping the bike looking good, but I did buy it to ride, and chit's going to happen to the paint/chrome on the road to get it scratched/scuffed up, so you've got to use something to get that stuff off and a pure sealer won't work.  I had a 19' Black/Silver Flake (10% flake, hull and all) Bass Cat...Black Merc, so I've had a lot of experience keeping up a dark finish with a ton of clear on top, and tried out practically everything on the market back in the mid 90's.

By the way...you guys with red or orange paint...I used this stuff on my red Ducati...I just THOUGHT it was red before!!  It's as red as a Fox's A$$ as they say down here....
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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #93 on: December 21, 2006, 11:08:51 AM »

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Spydy...the Webikeworld site has a test on a black tank showing the results of the Spider product and the Pro...In fact, they even show the results on chrome.
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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #94 on: December 21, 2006, 11:27:50 AM »

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For what it's worth, which probably isn't much, I applied GLARE to the entire SEUC the first weekend I had it.
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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #95 on: December 21, 2006, 11:38:14 AM »

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Bob...I did the same thing on all three of my bikes as soon as they got home.  Washed, Glared, and leather treated.  The only stuff that has happened to my bike have been road/user induced marks.  I think by the time we get our bikes, the clear has cured, but I was curious...

I intend to Glare the replacement painted parts (and the rest of the scoot) when I get them installed. I agree that the curing process is over prior to the end customer getting the paint.
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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #96 on: December 21, 2006, 12:03:46 PM »

The total cure time for the paint depends on which "generation" of clear coat H-D is using.  The earliest urethanes weren't totally cured for as much as 30 days (molecular crosslinking continues even after the baking process).  We use DuPont Gen III where I work and that has reduced the total cure time by about 50% over the earlier versions.  I believe H-D uses PPG; I'm not sure about their total cure times but I would assume they would be competitive.  

Still a good rule of thumb - don't dry wipe the paint or use abrasive polish until the paint has had at least 20 days to fully cure.

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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #97 on: December 21, 2006, 01:33:25 PM »

I presume you're basing your cure rate on 1 coat of clear?
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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #98 on: December 21, 2006, 01:36:56 PM »

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Spydy...the Webikeworld site has a test on a black tank showing the results of the Spider product and the Pro...In fact, they even show the results on chrome.
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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #99 on: December 21, 2006, 02:56:24 PM »

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Pretty common misconception, DAWG.
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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #100 on: December 21, 2006, 03:01:05 PM »

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Bob...I did the same thing on all three of my bikes as soon as they got home.
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« Reply #101 on: December 21, 2006, 03:02:26 PM »

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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #102 on: December 21, 2006, 03:14:19 PM »

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« Reply #103 on: December 21, 2006, 04:10:34 PM »

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The two black bikes I own are at my second home in Vermont. I live primarily in Arizona. As to why I want to wait a bit on my new CVO bike, I guess I just don't want to polish a bike that doesn't need it yet. BTW, it is a Springer, not a SEUC, and it is dark blue. I'd like to wait a bit to let some swirl marks develop so that I can see a difference.
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Re: Preliminary test on polishes
« Reply #104 on: December 21, 2006, 04:47:45 PM »

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The total cure time for the paint depends on which "generation" of clear coat H-D is using.
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