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Re: Which Rear Shock???????
« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2015, 09:08:29 PM »

Great information, above.  Thanks all, especially Ed / FlaHeatWave and Dave.  I had the Progressive Monotube and 12" Suspension Technologies on the SERG3 and loved them but could see that some might find them harsh.  The front of my '15 Road Glide Ultra seems very good but not great. The air shocks will have to go in favor of HD adjustables Ed described or Suspension Technologies 13".  I'm too cheap to spend more than that on a HOG.   :coolblue: 

BTW,  I'm sure most of you know this already but no one mentioned it so... there is only a 9/16th" ride height difference between a 12" and 13" shock ride height due to the angle of the shocks from vertical.

The front on the 15 SERGU is better than the front on my 13 SERK and better than the front on my 12 SERG was.

I hated this 15 SERGU the first time I rode it in the curves, the rear felt loose and like it would wash out.  Had planned to put 12" on it vice the 13"  Ohlin rep convinced me that the 13 was a better choice.  Said the bike was designed for it, as were the bikes I had with 12" were designed for the 13".  He went on to say turn in would be better, lean angle would be better, and it had more travel, so less likely to bottom out.

These Ohlins HD159 are great, and the bike now handles better than my 09 SERG did with progressive mono tubes up front and 944s in the back, better than my 12 SERG did, which like my current 13 SERK has 12 hd premium low hand adjustable shocks and stock front.

Thing I like about the Ohlin rear, they are rebuildable for 250 dollars.  They will not go with the bike when its traded.  I also like I can soften them up for ridding interstate, and then back firmer for the curves with out a tool.

I am seriously looking at adding them to my SERK, or the ones with remote as I am keeping the 110th anniversary bike, as I have a 100th also.
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Re: Which Rear Shock???????
« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2015, 09:14:57 PM »

I want to test drive Dave's bike!    :huepfenjump3: 
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Re: Which Rear Shock???????
« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2015, 09:29:23 PM »

I want to test drive Dave's bike!    :huepfenjump3:

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Re: Which Rear Shock???????
« Reply #63 on: January 26, 2015, 11:39:21 PM »

My Ohlins #6 arrived today, getting them installed on Thursday. Will post results.
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Re: Which Rear Shock???????
« Reply #64 on: January 30, 2015, 09:00:36 PM »

No one on here seems to know about Race Tech. Excellent shocks and fork kits. Made in USA. http://www.racetech.com/
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Re: Which Rear Shock???????
« Reply #65 on: February 11, 2015, 09:51:55 AM »

Wonder if anyone will be selling ohlins at bike week in daytona. I have progressive 444's HD and I still feel like it bottoms out on dips. I am going to try some 159's if I can find a installer to set them up for me.
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Re: Which Rear Shock???????
« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2015, 01:40:00 PM »

Wonder if anyone will be selling ohlins at bike week in daytona. I have progressive 444's HD and I still feel like it bottoms out on dips. I am going to try some 159's if I can find a installer to set them up for me.

Ohlins had a transporter at Destination Daytona during Biketoberfest 14.

I believe Howard (Motorcycle Metal) was there (one of the best in the business!)
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Re: Which Rear Shock???????
« Reply #67 on: February 11, 2015, 03:23:16 PM »

I just got off the phone with Howard and he is building me shocks now.
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Re: Which Rear Shock???????
« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2015, 06:12:05 PM »

I'm 275, "The Ball & Chain" is around a buck and a quarter. 2-up >95% of the time.

70% of the time, the Chopped TourPak and bags are loaded for our "Sport Touring" excursions.

She gets 1 bag, I get the other and the TourPak is community property. We have the TourPak packed so that we can stuff our jackets in it, if it is too hot to wear them.

'Got her carrying the tools in her bag, since her clothes are 1/5 the size of mine 'he 'he :nixweiss: 

When I was shopping suspension, I spoke with Progressive and they told me that a lot of people get their heavy duty stuff and are dissatisfied with it.

Here's what is in the '09 SERG

http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/premium-double-cartridge-fork-kit

http://www.harley-davidson.com/store/hand-adjustable-rear-shocks (12" std. on '09 SERG)

'Did the shocks first, then the forks a little while (3k) later, it seemed like it took the forks around 500 miles or so to "settle in" and I adjusted the shocks a little firmer ( a rotation or two ) 2 times, hit the sweet spot and the bike rides fine solo / empty too...

I believe my Tech said that he used a little heavier fork oil when installing the fork cartridges, I think 15 wt instead of 10wt oil. He also mentioned that the fork oil should be changed at 50k on the forks. 

'Been fortunate to own / ride some tricked out bikes (street and dirt) over the years, I am impressed with this set-up. A smooth supple ride, not overly firm, the tires always feel like they're in contact with the road, brake dive is next to nil, not bouncy, no shudder, hold an easy line on those high speed Western Sweepers or the tight twisties, and when they do bottom out (not very often) it's a cushioned thud, not driving your tailbone through your neck...

To me, very well mannered all the way around :2vrolijk_21:

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I did have the GlidePro Bushings installed in the '09 (mostly because I got free labor) while the drivetrain was being Built this past winter, (already had around 15k on the F&R suspension upgrades) the bike was down for 6 months, so it's hardly fair to say how much impact the GlidePros have on the handling of the new frame (the GPs along with the Commander IIs turned the '05 SEEG handling into a sport bike!) On the '09 the GPs and probably, the S&S .0005 (installed w/Timkin) Crank really smoothed out the vibration in the seat, bars, & footboards. I would do the GPs again...   

Dan, you might try upgrading the forks first with your 440s and play with the adjustments on the 440s, and see if y'all can find a sweet spot, if not the shocks are easy to change out...
Im the same way but the tour pak is mostly hers and if sometimes I find a few things in my saddle bag :huepfenlol2:
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Re: Which Rear Shock???????
« Reply #69 on: February 11, 2015, 08:51:28 PM »

Ohlins had a transporter at Destination Daytona during Biketoberfest 14.

I believe Howard (Motorcycle Metal) was there (one of the best in the business!)

I know that's a fact, as they put theHD-159 on my bike.

I had looked at them at the Racetrack location first.  Vendor there, sales guy could not explain why I would want one model over the other, or the difference between Progressive, Works and so on.  He was not good at covering the benefits of adjusting compression or rebound.

Just casually talking to the guy at the Destination daytona factory truck, he went into great detail about compression, rebound, setting shocks, and why you would want different settings on the same bike.  Really new his product, and never bashed the competitors. 

Love the shocks
 
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Re: Which Rear Shock???????
« Reply #70 on: February 11, 2015, 11:34:10 PM »

I just got off the phone with Howard and he is building me shocks now.

You're going to love them!
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