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[Piper]

I received a Smart Siren II and pager yesterday for my FLHTCUSE3. The instructions for the FL models say to remove the right side cover and replace the Siren I.
Under the right side cover is the ABS module.
Is the Siren I under the seat ?
Anyone else done this that can give me some tips ?
Thanks
Piper

[sadunbar]

I received a Smart Siren II and pager yesterday for my FLHTCUSE3. The instructions for the FL models say to remove the right side cover and replace the Siren I.
Under the right side cover is the ABS module.
Is the Siren I under the seat ?
Anyone else done this that can give me some tips ?
Thanks
Piper

On an 07, the Smart Siren II is under the right side cover behind the plate the ECM mounts to.  I can't speak to an 08 though...

[J-Carr]

It's under the side cover on the left hand side.  You need to remove the seat also so you can run the ransmitter antenna wire along the frame.  The Siren itself is just snapped into place at the front of the black plastic piece under the cover. It took me about 5 minutes to do the whole job and I only needed a phillips screwdriver to remove the seat.

Good Luck and Ride Safe!
J-Carr

[J-Carr]

Now that I think about it, there may have been a bolt holding a clip over the siren... It's been since September since I did it and I've done it on an older Ultra and my wife's Street Bob so I may be suffering a case of Old Timer's disease!  But I'm sure the location is correct as is the need to take the seat off to run the transmitter wire.

J-Carr

[Piper]

Okay, the new Siren II is installed. The antenna is 16" long and the velcro antenna strap is only 8". Did you double up the antenna wire under the velcro or just put the thin part of the antenna wire under the velcro and route the rest of the antenna elsewhere ?

[J-Carr]

The last few inches are the only part that needs to be isolated, but for neatness sake I did double it up under the velcro.  The range is about the same as on my wife's bike, where it is not doubled up so I don't think it makes a difference.

Ride Safe,
J-Carr

[Piper]

Thanks J-Carr,
I doubled it up under the velcro and I get just over a half mile range with the bike parked in the closed garage.
This is good for any bar that I may be concerned about. If it goes off, I'll know I need to call a cab.
Thanks again
Piper

[mtluvtap]

"It took me about 5 minutes to do the whole job and I only needed a phillips screwdriver to remove the seat."

I was so encouraged by this I decided to install it myself last night.
It took me an hour. Could probably do it again today in 15-30 minutes.
Took me 15 minutes just to figure out what the maxi-fuse was.
No pictures or directions I could find for the maxi-fuse in the owner's manual either.

The MOCO directions were close to useless for my 2008 Ultra Screamin Eagle, but
Yes, the siren is on the LEFT side- no help from the directions- I had to ID it from the plug type.
Old one doesn't pull out anything like the directions say.

It's done right and it works right and I'm proud of myself, but if anyone is like me- mechanically nervous,
I might a suggest dealer install.

P.S. The posts in this thread about how to install the antenna were invaluable or I would have been lost on that.

Thanks again CVOHarley members for helping me stretch my skills and confidence !
I think I'll go out now and take the head off to see if my seals are getting worn now that I have 2800 miles on.

[Coyote.]

If and I think when you find the range is not what you would like, consider this mod to the antenna system on your Siren II

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=12004.msg186648#msg186648

You won't believe the difference. 

cheers,

Keith

[mtluvtap]

Thanks Kieth,

Just ordered the antenna and crimp.
For $20 total and another opportunity to test my skills, I'll definately do this.
What a great site!

[J-Carr]

"It took me about 5 minutes to do the whole job and I only needed a phillips screwdriver to remove the seat."

I was so encouraged by this I decided to install it myself last night.
It took me an hour. Could probably do it again today in 15-30 minutes.
Took me 15 minutes just to figure out what the maxi-fuse was.
No pictures or directions I could find for the maxi-fuse in the owner's manual either.

The MOCO directions were close to useless for my 2008 Ultra Screamin Eagle, but
Yes, the siren is on the LEFT side- no help from the directions- I had to ID it from the plug type.
Old one doesn't pull out anything like the directions say.

It's done right and it works right and I'm proud of myself, but if anyone is like me- mechanically nervous,
I might a suggest dealer install.

P.S. The posts in this thread about how to install the antenna were invaluable or I would have been lost on that.

Thanks again CVOHarley members for helping me stretch my skills and confidence !
I think I'll go out now and take the head off to see if my seals are getting worn now that I have 2800 miles on.

Sorry it took you longer then I stated.  I do have quite a bit of familiarity with working under the seat and cases and on the electronics on dressers and some other models too.  I can have the side case off in about 30 seconds and have the seat off in another minute.  Pulling the Maxi fuse and the siren takes just a few seconds and then snapping everything back in a few more.  When you need to stop and figure out what the parts are and where they are you're going to take a lot longer so don't be discouraged.

What I can tell you about any accessory is the installation instructions almost always assume you have a service manual or the equivilant knowledge.  Any time I try to tackle a project that I haven't done before I start out by reading the appropriate sections in the service manual.  For the FLHTCUSE3 or any CVO bike you need two... One is the standard model Service Manual and the other is the Screaming Eagle supplement.  MoCo has to be sure to get an $45 or whatever they go for out of you.  Never the less, I wouldn't do any self installs without purchasing those first.

The other thing is, you can always post a question here first.  The question I answered was simply on the location of the siren since it's moved between '07 and '08.  The other members or myself would have been glad to give you some help with the location of the Maxi-Fuse, step by step instructions and of course, tell you how you should save your money to replace the leaking head gasket with a completely different motor!   

Ride Safe,
J-Carr

[mtluvtap]

Sorry it took you longer then I stated.

Hey J-Carr

I'm cool. The time wasn't the issue of course, it was the unfamiliarity.
I think I started to just hand my wallet over to mechanics right after I sold my 1966 VW van.
I was nervous about even trying to install it myself, but guess what?
I did it with your help and I could do that and probably now have some confidence to do more.

I've been thinking about that and my initial whiny post and have decided that
I need to go find myself another copy of "The Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"--
one of my favorite books from 30 years ago--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance
which is about the different ways one might view taking on motorcycle maintenance and how that
relates to how one might live one's life. Sort of a service manual for attitude.
So, I just ordered myself a copy tonite from Barnes and Noble, will read it again, and contemplate a little deeper on
why I bought this Harley last year. Doing this install successfully is part of the same self-sufficient freedom
I feel when I ride. It's nice to know I have this forum to pull me out of the POS if I fall into it.

[Coyote.]

Sorry it took you longer then I stated.

Hey J-Carr

I'm cool. The time wasn't the issue of course, it was the unfamiliarity.
I think I started to just hand my wallet over to mechanics right after I sold my 1966 VW van.
I was nervous about even trying to install it myself, but guess what?
I did it with your help and I could do that and probably now have some confidence to do more.

I've been thinking about that and my initial whiny post and have decided that
I need to go find myself another copy of "The Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"--
one of my favorite books from 30 years ago--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance
which is about the different ways one might view taking on motorcycle maintenance and how that
relates to how one might live one's life. Sort of a service manual for attitude.
So, I just ordered myself a copy tonite from Barnes and Noble, will read it again, and contemplate a little deeper on
why I bought this Harley last year. Doing this install successfully is part of the same self-sufficient freedom
I feel when I ride. It's nice to know I have this forum to pull me out of the POS if I fall into it.

Not sure if others will think I'm off base on this or not. You need to go get the Harley Service manuals. Just my opinion of course. 

[hard10]

Not sure if others will think I'm off base on this or not. You need to go get the Harley Service manuals. Just my opinion of course. 

Hey, back in the day, you would get double sercet probation at a minimun and maybe even an EBCM for picking on a newbie. Don't ask me how I have such a personal knowledge of this information.

[porthole]

maybe even an EBCM

And just what is this?

[Twolanerider]

And just what is this?

EBCM?  Eerily Beautiful Colored Motorcycle.  Of course.

Either that or Evil Bitch Called MoCo....

[porthole]

EBCM?  Eerily Beautiful Colored Motorcycle.  Of course.

Either that or Evil Bitch Called MoCo....

Well since you among others have it on the sidebar I guess those two aren't it 

[Hoist!]

EBCM?  Eerily Beautiful Colored Motorcycle.  Of course.

Either that or Evil Bitch Called MoCo....

Oops! Here we go again!

Hoist!

[Twolanerider]

Well since you among others have it on the sidebar I guess those two aren't it 

Duane, none of us actually know.  Somehow the moderators put that over there for a few of us and after they've done it we can't change it back.  They're messing with us. But it's all in fun so we don't care.

[porthole]

Got it.

[Twolanerider]

Got it.

Dammit. 

Dammit.

I want to.

But I can't.

Dammit.


Duane.  I was an evil bastard blaming the moderators up there.  Ironically, thus the rest of the story.

EBCM has been explained (mostly) fully only once.  And it was just a day or two ago.  Check here: 

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=22118.msg355837#msg355837