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BakedInMN

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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2013, 04:14:33 PM »

My 2010 FLHTCU handled much better at high speeds than my 2013 FLHTCUSE8. Very stable at 100+. This one makes me go white knuckled over 85. I know this isn't a solution but I am confirming that for some reason the 2013 get's mighty squirrelly compared to my 2010.
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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2013, 06:51:25 PM »

If it starts wobbling at 110 twist the throotle a bit more and maybe it'll clear up at 120 or 125
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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2013, 07:22:48 PM »

here is a loaded question what is the proper/recomended tire presue?
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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2013, 09:37:11 PM »

My CVO Road Glide doesn't wobble until I hit 225 MPH. :D
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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2013, 04:01:10 PM »

Speed wobbles can occur whenever something starts a vibration that matches a resonant frequency of the wheels. A resonant frequency is one at which your motorcycle will vibrate very easily; a particular motorcycle may have multiple resonant frequencies. The starting point may be a bump in the road, a rough patch in the road, or some combination of these factors. Other potential contributing factors include the small torques resulting from wheel rotation and the tiny lateral oscillations that spinning wheels make if they're not aligned with absolute perfection.
Your motorcycle will go through various "zones" of oscillatory stability and instability as it accelerates up to its highest speed. you might even compare this to musical notes or octaves of relative vibrational resonance.

Steering dampners are made to help with this problem as the main dampner ( you ) cannot always handle the correction of the vibrations.
The best advise is to slow down, as this can be a fatal but also unavoidable occurrence and even though the problem may go away with more speed the best way to take the bike out of that particular resonance range is to back off.

The tread of your tires could also be a contributing factor, particularly the front one. different treads have different resonant properties.


In addition to above, get both wheels statically and dynamically balanced. It reduces wobble, increases road holding and reduces tire wear and rider fatigue. Check forks and swing arm for correct operation. A lack of fork oil and too much side play in the swing arm are sources of vibration. Check panier box lids are fitting properly and are locked. Lid 'chatter' in the wind can be one of those resonances mentioned above that sets wobble off.
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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2013, 09:22:42 PM »

09 and later touring models can be expected to be rock stable at and over 120 mph - and usually are, that's no exceptional speed on a German Autobahn. If they are not, it's usually a maintenance, mostly tire, pressure or bearing matter. At least H-D Germany will go at any length if after checking those "usual suspects" a bike still is not, as over here the bike has to be safe and stable up to it's mechanical top speed.
I would love being able to ride my bike on that rode.
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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2013, 09:54:36 PM »

Speed wobbles can occur whenever something starts a vibration that matches a resonant frequency of the wheels. A resonant frequency is one at which your motorcycle will vibrate very easily; a particular motorcycle may have multiple resonant frequencies. The starting point may be a bump in the road, a rough patch in the road, or some combination of these factors. Other potential contributing factors include the small torques resulting from wheel rotation and the tiny lateral oscillations that spinning wheels make if they're not aligned with absolute perfection.
Your motorcycle will go through various "zones" of oscillatory stability and instability as it accelerates up to its highest speed. you might even compare this to musical notes or octaves of relative vibrational resonance.

Steering dampners are made to help with this problem as the main dampner ( you ) cannot always handle the correction of the vibrations.
The best advise is to slow down, as this can be a fatal but also unavoidable occurrence and even though the problem may go away with more speed the best way to take the bike out of that particular resonance range is to back off.

The tread of your tires could also be a contributing factor, particularly the front one. different treads have different resonant properties.


In addition to above, get both wheels statically and dynamically balanced. It reduces wobble, increases road holding and reduces tire wear and rider fatigue. Check forks and swing arm for correct operation. A lack of fork oil and too much side play in the swing arm are sources of vibration. Check panier box lids are fitting properly and are locked. Lid 'chatter' in the wind can be one of those resonances mentioned above that sets wobble off.

Very good info Cat eyes, thank you.
Just passing a semi and a couple cars on a Ducati will put you in the 115 to 140 range, with phenomenal handling. I would hope the new "Tractor" (CVO RK) will have some passing power, as I'm not much of a follower. I don't believe Harley has engineered a wobble into their bike, most likely sloppy assembly which can be fixed. I have not had the "Tractor" over the century mark, waiting for the rain to quit.
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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2013, 12:12:15 AM »

110 Wobble thats funny stuff!!! You go Girl! I have road that same stretch at a buck twenty when I started to feel the wooble on my 07. My 12 CVO SG is sure footed at 110, I havent been east of the mountains yet to open it up on a long enough stretch to do it safely. :jalapeno:
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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2013, 11:05:40 AM »

Had mine to 115 mph once ripping it with my brother after he put cams and heads on his 103". Probably won't do that again but it was pretty stable even with my wife on the back.

Wanna go fast with good handling? Buy a sport bike that's built for those speeds!

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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2013, 01:10:03 PM »

Interesting comments..........I find that speed  has something to do with the song that is playing at the time.............just want to twist that throttle more!!! Maybe change your music selections if you want to slow down! :D :bananarock:
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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2013, 01:52:23 PM »

Thanks for the explanation Cat Eyes. The change in wheel style in the 2013 might be causing some of the problem.
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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2013, 07:37:25 PM »

mine is great with no wobble at 115...but that is why I got the Road Glide!! :2vrolijk_21: :oops:
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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2013, 12:47:16 PM »

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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2013, 01:01:29 PM »

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Re: Wobbling at 110mph
« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2013, 01:48:38 PM »

Is that MPH or KM   :huepfenlol2:   :huepfenlol2:

I guess that will depend on whether you're bike is RED or one of the other slower colors......   :huepfenjump3:
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