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[16HD117]

I'm glad things worked out for you, I really am.  I'm sure they must have lots of happy customers or they wouldn't be able to stay in business.  There isn't a business in the world with a 100% satisfaction rate.  I happen to be one of Hillside's unhappy customers.  I made the decision on the cam based on advice from Scott.  I can and do live with my decisions.  What was most disconcerting was the treatment I received from him after the sale.  That's what made me an unhappy customer. 

Hey hogsty, we all know how you feel about Hillside!  Don't you think it's about time to drop it?

[FNGw/08SERK]

Hey hogsty, we all know how you feel about Hillside!  Don't you think it's about time to drop it?

X2 - Aside from a  there comes a point to let it go. Sorry for your bad rub from Hillside. But Scott has spent a lot of time with myself and even a few friends giving advice that has yet to earn Scott one dollar. Sorry Scott - we'll send some your way when we can. Thanks for the help!!

[timtoolman]

sorry about the jacked thread  for a min,  ,  woods 555 cams should be quiet as stock also set up right,   

[hogsty]

Hey hogsty, we all know how you feel about Hillside!  Don't you think it's about time to drop it?

Sorry if I rubbed people the wrong way.  Caveat emptor.

[16HD117]

I had the Woods 555's installed last week.  Just as quite as stock cams!
 

See post #14 on this thread for my impression of Fullsac Stage I & II install.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=58531.0

[springer09]

yea cam is quiet just no more power on low end then stock the reason i put fullsacs stage two in was to gain low end stock cams had more low end. a lot of money for i was not looking for if u want lots of power above 3000rpm then  these cams are it. no bs here just the facts.

[Black Diamond]

yea cam is quiet just no more power on low end then stock the reason i put fullsacs stage two in was to gain low end stock cams had more low end. a lot of money for i was not looking for if u want lots of power above 3000rpm then  these cams are it. no bs here just the facts.

Springer09

Man, sounds like your really down. You got a dyno sheet comparing your SE255 to the Wood 555? Does the Fullsac stage 2 mean you changed to the .030 head gasket? Tune issue? Sorry to hear it did not work out for you.

JW

[evostroker]

To address the noise issue...just installed the Tw555's in mine and its quiet as stock ( which was very good) with "b" lifters

And the Hillside thing..WOW Scott gives  "free" info on these forums which is real and repeatable, from his experiance. He has always answered my questions with his best informed opinion....you can take his advise or leave it..If you paid him to build your  the motor and he promised silent valvetrain you have a reason to be unhappy..If you asked him for "free" advise, and  did it yourself, or had someone else do the work there is no way you can blame him for your issues..No reason to bash him in public..

[Fullsac Performance]

yea cam is quiet just no more power on low end then stock the reason i put fullsacs stage two in was to gain low end stock cams had more low end. a lot of money for i was not looking for if u want lots of power above 3000rpm then  these cams are it. no bs here just the facts.

Hey Springer

What model bike did you install my Stage II kit in? Looks like you have a 2009 CVO Springer and a 2008 CVO Bagger.
Can you give a few more details.

Steve George

[springer09]

its in a 2011 cvo street glide,  sign in name is old and never updated it but still have it

[springer09]

yes also did the head gasket squish, used steves tune

[HOGMIKE]

yea cam is quiet just no more power on low end then stock the reason i put fullsacs stage two in was to gain low end stock cams had more low end. a lot of money for i was not looking for if u want lots of power above 3000rpm then  these cams are it. no bs here just the facts.

I would tend to agree: not a whole lot of increase in power/torque below 2500, but, with the 555 similar to the 54's IME there IS a noticeable increase in the "SOTP" dyno numbers to 3000 over the SE255's, then, no decrease in pull up to about 5500.
Maybe not the best "bang for the buck" without the whole package to make things work properly.
I'm pretty impressed with a 103 using the "whole package" only with the 54 cams. I have "special needs" with this bike, and it really works for me!
JMHO

[Black Diamond]

yes also did the head gasket squish, used steves tune

My old shop used Steve's map for a base line. They made a number of changes and she's running great. I did the Fullsac Stage 1. You might see what a good tuner can get out of her. JMO.

JW

[Unbalanced]

Sorry to hear about your friend fatboi.  Probably a good time for the friendly reminder that just because it worked for someone else doesn't mean you shouldnt check the clearances for your build and know what you have.

Clay and silly putty are cheap in comparison to hitting a piston.     

[Fullsac Performance]

You know, I've dynoed a whole bunch of these 110s. From 2500 rpm up the stock 255 cams are already loosing the TQ battle when compared back to back with
Andrews 54s or Woods 555s. 

This is a typical dyno chart showing a Stage II X Pipe, woods 555 kit crossing the 100FT mark at 2500 rpm.
Looks like a 20 point TQ gain over stock at 3000 rpm too.
Over 100 TQ is also held to 5600 RPM. Thats a very, very wide TQ spread.
Stage II X Pipe kit, Woods 555 cams. Nothing special, stock heads, stock AC. I've never seen this kind of TQ with stock 255 cams.

SE 255s may be TQ hero's in 88s and 96s with low compression. That's about it. The only thing they do real well in a 103 or 110 is to ping and pass a smog test.
That big TQ dip you see in the stock run is partly do to the knock sensor pulling timing on a rock stock bike. Can't make TQ if your pinging.
Just my humble opinion based on consistent dyno results along with hearing stock 255 cammed 110s ping and detonate on my dyno dozens of times.


Steve George
Fullsac Performance