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[InfernoCVO]

 Hello, my 110 SE springer dynoed 85hp 111tq thinking on cam change to increase performance but keep reliability. talked to bob woods he suggested the tw-555 has anyone installed this cam in a 110 or suggest a good choice. Thanks in advance for any and all help.

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Not in a 110"er, but in 107"s.
You'll need to bump the compression to 10.4-6 in order for it to run correctly.
Scott

[Zinister]

Scott, If I'm bumping the compression why wouldn't I go straight to the 400-6 or 408-6? Seems like the extra money is buying the 10.5 pistons anyway?

Am I missing something here?

[Birdman]

Review the post knight prowler cams TW-555, these are bobby woods 555 cam. The dyno sheet posted shows the before and after results.  The big difference I notice is in the top end. While riding I much more power at cruising speeds to get around traffic.
I think it is a great cam for every day riding. The more time I spend in the seat the more I like it.   

[InfernoCVO]

 Did you do anything thing extra or just install the 555 cam. talked to my local H-D shop i would be the first in my area no idea how it will respond. they are checking a few options for me

[grc]

Wood claims the TW555 is a straight bolt-in with no other work required.  Just looking at the specs compared to the stock SE255 would make me think that you will give up some bottom end and pick up some midrange and top end.  Just the sort of thing a lighter bike like the Springer might respond very nicely to, and probably less so with a heavy bagger.  Of course, I am definitely not an expert when it comes to Harley cams so you will be best served listening to those who do this stuff for a living.
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TW-555   Intake 21/41  Duration 242  Lift .555  TDC Lift .189
             Exhaust 43/19  Duration 242  Lift .555  TDC Lift .178

Stock  07 thru 2011 Bolt-in Cams
Ultra High Performance for your 96",103" & 110" Street or Touring bike
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Jerry

[HD Street Performance]

I think that is a very good prediction Jerry. Uncharted territory for the most part. I will say this you are not doing yourself any favor with those pipes. The stock headpipes and Cycle Shack slip-ons (and a retune) would get you right now 5hp and a few ft.lbs torque (minimum) and a lot more torque in the riding envelope (roll-on power).

[Birdman]

Did you do anything thing extra or just install the 555 cam. talked to my local H-D shop i would be the first in my area no idea how it will respond. they are checking a few options for me

Along with the cam I changed the lifters, chains, bearings, pushrods. Other mods to the bike are thunder max ecm, v & h power duals, Fullsac muffler cores.

I think that is a very good prediction Jerry. Uncharted territory for the most part. I will say this you are not doing yourself any favor with those pipes. The stock headpipes and Cycle Shack slip-ons (and a retune) would get you right now 5hp and a few ft.lbs torque (minimum) and a lot more torque in the riding envelope (roll-on power).

 The "role on power" with these cams is very noticeable and nice even on the bagger.

[Craigfxds]

Interesting comments.  I just acquired a '09 FLTRSE3.  Still bone stock with only 1900 miles on it.  Doing it's first service today.  My existing ride is a '09 FLTR 96" (30K miles) with Woods TW6-6, Fuelmoto exhaust and PCV/Autotune.  That cam has worked out very well for me, particularly since I went Autotune.  The bike is quick and responsive.  I'd like to get a similar performance upgrade with my new ride.  I also have talked to Woods about the 555.  Fuelmoto tells me that they are using the TW-7H in their 110's with good results.  I'm looking forward to any and all comments and advice.  Anyone running Andrews?  I will be riding stock until I sell my other ride.  Thanks from the FNG here.

Craig

[HD Street Performance]

When looking at the Woods grinds they all blend \ blur. There is no "best", any of them, as it applys to the 110 but all will work well, the 6-6 555, 7.
The choice I would use is the 555 for the 110. The added duration, albeit small and the lower lift (less valvetrain noise potential) make it a shoe in.
If you are a low end torque junkie the TW5-6 is the best of them INHO.
I will be recomending the 5-6 555 and 8 for most applications.

[sadunbar]

Interesting comments.  I just acquired a '09 FLTRSE3.  Still bone stock with only 1900 miles on it.  Doing it's first service today.  My existing ride is a '09 FLTR 96" (30K miles) with Woods TW6-6, Fuelmoto exhaust and PCV/Autotune.  That cam has worked out very well for me, particularly since I went Autotune.  The bike is quick and responsive.  I'd like to get a similar performance upgrade with my new ride.  I also have talked to Woods about the 555.  Fuelmoto tells me that they are using the TW-7H in their 110's with good results.  I'm looking forward to any and all comments and advice.  Anyone running Andrews?  I will be riding stock until I sell my other ride.  Thanks from the FNG here.

Craig

Welcome to the site!      Glad you have joined us...

I believe Chip ("SBB") has the TW-7H in his 09 SEUC.  You may want to ask his impression of the cam...

[InfernoCVO]

 Thanks for the info my ride only has 3k on it so i want to do it right,woods also recommended the 555 over the 7h, i will keep watching while deciding.  thanks to all

[Craigfxds]

Thanks for all the suggestions and comments.  Once I see if my FLTR sells as is, or back to stock, I can make some final decisions.  Keith at Fuelmoto suggested that my exhaust, PCV, Autotune and TW6-6 (he likes the 7)  would transfer to the 110 in good order, though I will probably take a good look at cams.  The 6 seems a bit noisy, but not too bad.  I am leaning toward the 555 as it is Wood's latest iteration.  How about air cleaners?  What has been the collective experience in this area?

[HD Street Performance]

Many air cleaners work well. A few do not. The Ventilator HD sorry to say has not worked as well as I thought it would. Zippers and Wood performance both have good units and the SE heavy breather seems to be fine but you have to like the look. The stock motor is not going to be that demanding. When the motor gets larger with airflow enhancements is when the AF will become a critical path constraint.

[SBB]

Welcome to the site!     Glad you have joined us...

I believe Chip ("SBB") has the TW-7H in his 09 SEUC.  You may want to ask his impression of the cam...

I have had the TW7H in my 09 SEUC for the past 26K miles.
It made a great seat of the pants difference in how my bike ran.
There are so many people with so many conflicting responses that I'm glad mine is done.
Some days I read the TW7H is the greatest, some days I read it's a dog. And that's with the same person reporting the so called facts.
 
Attached is my dyno sheet,  (See next post for my dyno sheet, thank's Naitram) remember this cam is on a bagger not the lighter springer.
Hope this helps.
 
SBB

[naitram]

converted and rotated

[HD Street Performance]

Chip
The 7 is not a dog and I never said that maybe someone else, but it just converges with the rest of the wood ~240° grinds. For that reason I will be bypassing the 7 and 6 in favor of the 5 and 555. If headwork is in the cards then to get the benefit I will then suggest the 8, 400 or 408.
BTW your tune?? Don't you think when using smoothing 5 the curves should be a little smoother, not a comment on the cam but the tune?? There are a few things that can cause this that when fixed would likely uncover more tq and power.

[SBB]

Don't you think when using smoothing 5 the curves should be a little smoother,

Your asking me about the smoothing on a dyno sheet?
Geeeezzz you'd get a faster answer if you asked what the modulus of elasticity of southern yellow pine is.

SBB





answer is two million lbs. . . .

[HILLSIDECYCLE.COM]

Scott, If I'm bumping the compression why wouldn't I go straight to the 400-6 or 408-6? Seems like the extra money is buying the 10.5 pistons anyway?

Am I missing something here?

Why not got to the 408?? I agree.
Scott

[Herko]

Dyno(s) attached: CR-575 as a bolt-in for a 110.

[DDavidson]

Feuling Reaper 574 cam that HD-Dude installed on mine.

110.25 HP 111 Torque

Here's the post that has Dyno results.
Feuling 574 cams for a 110
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=44545.0

[HDDOCFL]

Dyno(s) attached: CR-575 as a bolt-in for a 110.

John I wonder if Wes Brown could tune that as good as you have yours.  Doc

[Herko]

John I wonder if Wes Brown could tune that as good as you have yours.  Doc

Wouldn't be surprised if Wes could tune it even better.

[Fullsac Performance]

Dyno(s) attached: CR-575 as a bolt-in for a 110.

Hi John

Very nice. What gear was that chart done in?

Steve

[Herko]

Hi John

Very nice. What gear was that chart done in?

Steve

Thanks Steve.
6th.  (1 to 1)

[firefighter156]

Wouldn't be surprised if Wes could tune it even better.

I'll put my money on HERKO   

[Old Salt]

I have a 2011 CVO  110" Street Glide.   6000 miles. I want to increase power but not impact reliability.  Would a Woods 555 cause any long term problems or decrease reliability. Looking at Reinhart 4" mufflers PCV also.   I travel alot. 

[InfernoCVO]

Well decided to go with the Woods 555 and directional lifter, had them installed this winter bike sounds good but waiting for tune to find out if it was worth it or not.      Will try to post dyno sheet when i get it.

[shindo]

I'm doing a 555 with a Thundermax and Boss FatCat on my street glide. The TW7h would also be a good choice I'v been told. I'm looking for good bottom torque and a nice top for cruising, the 555 seems to fit the bill

[InfernoCVO]

555 cam install on stock 08 cvo 110 race tuner v&h pipes not real good numbers, anyone else had better luck,    Retune Mabey?   Thanks for any help

[SEgle]

I think that is a very good prediction Jerry. Uncharted territory for the most part. I will say this you are not doing yourself any favor with those pipes. The stock headpipes and Cycle Shack slip-ons (and a retune) would get you right now 5hp and a few ft.lbs torque (minimum) and a lot more torque in the riding envelope (roll-on power).

Like Don says, it's your pipes.

[Occam]

Dyno(s) attached: CR-575 as a bolt-in for a 110.

So would it be reasonable to infer that I would be able to obtain similar numbers and that lovely torque curve with my FXDFSE?
The setup would be similar, except my exhaust is a Hacker 2-1 rather than D&D, and I also use TTS.

I hope to get Steve to dyno it as I live fairly close to Fullsac here in the Zone.   

[InfernoCVO]

 Has been a while since i posted this topic,  had 10.5 H-D pistons installed thinking this would help the woods 555 cam come alive but only gained one hp.       93hp/112tq out of my 110. Several members have told me that my exhaust is hurting my performance.  My questions are is the exhaust (VH Big Radius) causing me to loose a little power or alot, or is this cam  just not a good pick for the 110.  Would like to be at 110-115hp. any and all replies will be greatly appreciated.

[willyB]

InfernoCVO,

Sure, a better designed exhaust system will help out your dyno sheet by my brother runs the Big Radius pipes on his '05 Deuce with S & S 510G cams and a S & S Carb. No other engine work. He's getting upper 80's HP and upper 90's TQ. Like you he wanted more but MAN THOSE PIPES SOUND SWEET!!!
It's amazing how many people compliment him on the sound of his bike.

There's just something about the sound of those pipes that will always trump the dyno sheet. Day, temperature, humidity, barometric pressure, dyno calibration and a whole host of other things effect any dyno numbers on any given day.

Throw the dyno sheet in the file cabinet and enjoy riding your scoot that has one of the best sounds out there!

[easyrider9809]

I think your pipes are affecting your numbers.  How much experience does your technician have tuning 110's ?  I have a Woods Tw7h in my 09 Roadglide. Runs great.  I have two friends with 2011 110's and have Tw555's installed. They run good and strong. My experience with a local Harley dealership tuning the Tw7h was not very good. The bike felt like a slug.  Took the bike up to Fuel Moto. Jamie tuned the bike and really improved the performance of the bike.  A good experienced technician that has tuned and worked with aftermarket cams in big cu/in motors is key.

[InfernoCVO]

 I think my tuner does a good job, im sure there is better out there. I talked to woods after installing cam and lifters he said my numbers were way off,he  refered me to a tuner in notheren Indiana who also said it should have been better drove 3hrs one way and had to purchase a power comander for him to tune (would not do a race tuner) left with the same numbers I arrived with. Bike runs strong just not what I was expecting so I had 10.5 to 1 pistons installed thinking it would wake up the cam but it really didn't help at all. I have also had a 30t trans gear installed and had my SERT up graded to a TTS MasterTune. Not sure whether to try a different cam or if head work is a must to wake up the 110.

[HD Street Performance]

Many try to stuff the CVO into the same bucket as the 96 / 103" but the heads are very different. It is those breathing characteristics that dictate different cam choices and make them so sensitive to a good match between the pipe and cam. Those pipes are not doing you any favors and now I would betcha the Delphi is pulling timing as well which is a power drainer. If you have a SEST and a laptop you can do some data runs and verify that.

[shindo]

My bike runs quite strong with the 555 . I haven't had it on the dyno yet but it sure seems to have good power. I also have D&D fatcat and a Thunder Max. No black soot on the end of the pipe just a cool gray.