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[Jim Kerr]

They're measuring at the crank, not the rear wheel.

You got it HunDer.  moco Marketing people are in charge of stating numbers.  The press is publishing what they've been told.  I haven't found any articles where an independent third-party has dyno'ed a stock bike.  This is why I published my results to the world.  Your results may vary as they say  

We drive in the real world.  Dyno numbers do not lie.  Sadly, stock this bike is not even close to 114.  I'm confident it can get there and maybe even beyond, but not without spending some time and $$.   

[grc]

The attachment was lifted from the catalog description of the 110 Stage 1 kit (which is equivalent to the CVO 110).  Their published rear wheel numbers aren't much different than what you found.

In my mind it's pretty sad when a manufacturer can't even come close to one horsepower or one pound-foot per cubic inch.  Even lawnmowers do that nowdays. 

Jerry

[Screamin]

Ran mine yesterday. Seems in line w/ some others.

[Jim Kerr]

Ran mine yesterday. Seems in line w/ some others.

Screamin, have you changed your exhaust or opened the cat?  Your results seem to be better than my stock.  Curious what may be different in the two. 

My results were basically 79 HP & 92 LBS torque.  Yours is around 86 HP & 99 torque.  7 more HP & 7 lbs more torque.  Interesting...

[Screamin]

Yeah, I thought so as well. I'd guess a difference in dynos as we're about the same alt. and yesterday was pretty average temp and humidity. Bike is bone stock.

[Jim Kerr]

Yeah, I thought so as well. I'd guess a difference in dynos as we're about the same alt. and yesterday was pretty average temp and humidity. Bike is bone stock.

It was a hot day after I had been riding for awhile when I dyno'ed my bike.  Temp might be what is causing the difference. 

[Iglide]

Jim,

A few questions, if you don't mind...

Is a "core bit" the same as a "hole saw", extension required?

Did you drill the cat with the header on the bike? Were you able to access both sides of the cat area? Do you think it's all out?


Thanks in advance.

[Jim Kerr]

Is a "core bit" the same as a "hole saw", extension required?

A core bit is not a hole saw.  The material the cat is made out of has a webbed composition that will tare and make a mess if you use a hole saw.  A hole saw will also likely kick back and could do serious damage to the header.  The cutting surface of the core bit is smooth with a flat carbide or diamond surface.  It is designed to cut through just about anything without destroying it.  It creates a smooth surface as it cuts.   

Did you drill the cat with the header on the bike? Were you able to access both sides of the cat area? Do you think it's all out?

I did this while the headers were on the bike.  You only need to pull the right muffler, which is a piece of cake. 

The 2-1-2 exhaust initially combines just ahead of the cat.  The cat fills the chamber where the two meet and flow into one opening.  The 90 degree crossover that splits some of the exhaust over to the left side is after the cat.  The pic below is as good as I can get.  There's a small amount of the cat material that remains, but the bit cored a hole the exact inner diameter of each exhaust pipe.  It doesn't seem to be an issue since both pipes have a straight shot out and they don't fire at the same time. 

[Iglide]

Wow Great News Jim, couldn't have gone better!

Was there debris left after the drill out that had to be removed (shop vac)?

Would you show a pic of that core bit; and, where can I find one?

When will you get your cores?

[Jim Kerr]

Iglide, I created a complete step by step guide in the Intake/Exhaust/ECM section on how to do this with pics of everything including the core bit.  I also have a link on where to buy it.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=27814.0

If you are slow and careful there's almost no mess.  I started the bike with the exhaust off and let it run to blow the dust out.  Then wiped things down. 

I went for a good ride today and can say without a doubt the bike is running and sounding better even with the stock mufflers.  It is performing much better than I expected.  No doubt the cat is very restrictive. 

[planenut]

thanks for the info again   as my cuse4 will be in within a few weeks,will do the mod when i change my mufflers,ging with monster ovals
 




jon

[laylonlor]

that's sad ya spend 32k on a bike and then have to put, another 5/6 k in it to get it to have  enough power to keep up with  a pan head

[Godeater]

I would question the dyno or the bike as being off the norm.  Here are some dyno runs from the 110's we have had a chance to run and the 2nd bike we did R&R heads and cams (585), stage 1 ac and Pro pipe.

[Godeater]

2nd bike

[Godeater]

2nd bike after mods and dyno