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Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« on: September 10, 2019, 02:12:03 PM »

Okay, I've hauled my bikes in trailers that I could easily bolt down through the floor into the bracing to put in front wheel chocks.

BUT...

What do you do in a toy hauler that you do NOT want to drill and bolt through the floor?

I have a roll over floor chock that I may be able to make up outriggers to add side to side stabilization and tie down front to rear.

But without any way to screw 2"x4" on each side of the rear tire to keep it from sliding, I guess you can wrap straps around the wheels, but not really impressed with that option.

So what does everyone do without bolting a permanent front wheel chock in the floor?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2019, 02:50:43 PM »

These T nuts work really well for me although initially you do have to drill a hole for them. You tap them in from the bottom and either use an adhesive or in my case a couple small screws on the shoulder of each one to keep them in place when not in use. That way you can remove your chocks to get them out of your way when not in use.

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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2019, 05:24:47 PM »

You don't need a front wheel chock or straps.  For Harleys it's the B&W Biker Bar.

I and many, many other full time RVers have been all over the nation with it......quick, fast, easy and more secure than anything else out there.  Use the search feature on this forum or google it.

https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=79634.15
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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2019, 05:29:43 PM »

Just this quick and this simple.....

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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2019, 06:46:43 PM »

I feel you do need a stop in any kind of towing. The Biker Bar is a scary unit when only bolted to the plywood floor of a camping trailer.
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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2019, 06:59:43 PM »

I feel you do need a stop in any kind of towing. The Biker Bar is a scary unit when only bolted to the plywood floor of a camping trailer.

I would be leery in a camping trailer......hell, initially I was leery putting it in my toyhauler.  If your floor will support an 800 lb + motorcycle, it'll support the Biker Bar and the biker bar is much more stable than straps.  You could also bolt to the cross frame under the garage area.  But I've been to a number of RV rallies in the past couple of years (at one here in Red Bluff, California right now) and have seen this Biker Bar in many, many toyhaulers....large and small and in weekenders and full timers.  I've still not read or heard a negative comment. 
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2019, 08:35:42 AM »

I would be leery in a camping trailer......hell, initially I was leery putting it in my toyhauler.  If your floor will support an 800 lb + motorcycle, it'll support the Biker Bar and the biker bar is much more stable than straps.  You could also bolt to the cross frame under the garage area.  But I've been to a number of RV rallies in the past couple of years (at one here in Red Bluff, California right now) and have seen this Biker Bar in many, many toyhaulers....large and small and in weekenders and full timers.  I've still not read or heard a negative comment.

I've seen the Biker Bar before and understand that in one case someone had a roll over on their trailer and the bike was still attached to the biker bar, never came loose.

That being said, it's a GREAT option to straps and optional wheel chocks for every load etc, but in our new to us toy hauler, our 12' garage will also be part of our living area.  With the party deck ramp option, we plan on spending some time outside in the evenings.  Having the hitch permanently mounted to the floor could be a big nuisance when walking around in the garage.  In your application I would not hesitate one second on leaving it permanently installed.

I see that it bolts in with just two bolts, is that correct?

If so, I'll roll under the garage tonight and take a look around.  I'm not sure if the garage frame work is open or sealed up with the under-belly membrane like the rest of the RV.  I could see me finding a beam and mounting a tapping plate out of 2"x1" bar stock to the underside of the main frame.  Then I could just drill two holes up through the floor and remove it once I'm parked for an extended time.



Any additional advice on the B&W would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for all the input on my question.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2019, 09:36:23 AM »

JC, I see your Avatar pic ahead and above your bike.  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2019, 01:32:49 PM »

I have a similar set up as you Dan. We have our party patio ramp door down almost all the time and use the bike / golf cart carrying area as living space. You all may hate this but I don't chock my front tire. I put it on the kick stand (with a kick stand pad on a piece of carpet) and then I tie it down. I tie all 4 corners of the bike. I would like to say it can't go anywhere and it can't tip over. I Will say it hasn't moved or tipped over "yet". Seems very solid to me or I wouldn't chance it with my expensive CVO, Toy hauler and Golf cart. And nothing left on the floor to trip over when everything is out.
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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2019, 05:01:02 PM »

I've seen the Biker Bar before and understand that in one case someone had a roll over on their trailer and the bike was still attached to the biker bar, never came loose.

That being said, it's a GREAT option to straps and optional wheel chocks for every load etc, but in our new to us toy hauler, our 12' garage will also be part of our living area.  With the party deck ramp option, we plan on spending some time outside in the evenings.  Having the hitch permanently mounted to the floor could be a big nuisance when walking around in the garage.  In your application I would not hesitate one second on leaving it permanently installed.

I see that it bolts in with just two bolts, is that correct?

If so, I'll roll under the garage tonight and take a look around.  I'm not sure if the garage frame work is open or sealed up with the under-belly membrane like the rest of the RV.  I could see me finding a beam and mounting a tapping plate out of 2"x1" bar stock to the underside of the main frame.  Then I could just drill two holes up through the floor and remove it once I'm parked for an extended time.



Any additional advice on the B&W would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for all the input on my question.

The Biker Bar has two large plates under the floor that the BB bolts to.  These plates are threaded so that when you drop the bolts down through the biker bar plate and through the floor, the threaded plates are on the underside.  They are secured to the bottom of your trailer.  Remove the two large bolts that you see in this photo and you have a clear, level floor with no obstruction.  Just keep the ratchet and socket handy to reinstall the biker bar when you're ready to roll to the next location.


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Many toyhauler owners use the biker bar and then set the garage up as a room or party patio once they are set up in the RV park or campground.

You might want to go on to one of the toyhauler fb groups and ask "who is using the B&W Biker Bar?  What is your experience?".   I've not saw a negative comment about this product yet!
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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2019, 06:36:04 PM »

I feel you do need a stop in any kind of towing. The Biker Bar is a scary unit when only bolted to the plywood floor of a camping trailer.

It's not bolted to a plywood floor.....it's bolted to the 1/4" steel plates that are mounted under the floor (I believe they are 4"x5"x1/4").  The bike is not going anywhere.....it's mounted rigid to the RV so no suspension to loosen when you hit potholes, etc.
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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2019, 06:40:52 PM »

Dan this guy just posted in the Momentum fb group.  He has a little Momentum 25G (a bumper pull toyhauler) that has a slide out.  This pic shows his bike mounted right next to the slide out when it's pulled in to the RV. 

I would suggest when ever you have the room, always mount to the opposite side of the kitchen.  The people that do the individual wheel weighing at these RV Rallies told me that an RV is always heavier on the kitchen side.

A little bumper pull Momentum 25G.....   https://www.granddesignrv.com/showroom/2020/toy-hauler/momentum-g-class-travel-trailer/floorplans/25g

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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2019, 10:10:58 PM »

JC, thanks again for the great advice... :2vrolijk_21:

I'll do some research this weekend.
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2019, 03:29:32 PM »

I have the RV back to our house right now and will be receiving my Biker Bar tomorrow.

So this weekend I plan on seeing what I have to work with.  I know I have my spare tire under the curb side around the door entry way or just a little behind that.  On the other side of the garage I have two 30 gallon gas tanks, gas station and generator.

I'm also looking for a second one.  I have a '98 Honda Helix CN250 I picked up a bout four years ago and still don't have it at my house... :(  I'll have it home this coming spring though.  For it I would like to get the second Biker Bar, but will have to modify the clamp bar.  I've contacted B&W and will hear back from them in a day or so.

My thoughts are that if the BB grabs from the outside of the frame rails and hold just fine, why wouldn't it hold just as well if it goes inside the two lower frame tubes and then clamps outward.  I'm guessing from pictures of Helix frames, that the lower parallel tubes are between 8" and 10" wide.

Maybe the one side of the clamp bar is fixed in position and the only moving side is the right side.  So a clockwise turn would then clamp it into the Helix frame without any issues, but I'll wait to see what B&W has to say first.

If anyone has any clamp bar experience that they might care to share, I'm all eyes/ears...

Thanks for all the great input guys!
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2019, 04:28:46 PM »

Okay, yesterday I slid under the garage of my Raptor and found that the factory tie downs are welded into the outer main "I" beams and a heavy center stamped channel.  I knew they were welded from a factory tour video I watched a few months ago.  Those are the only three spots north south that the 1" heavy plywood floor bolts to.

My B&W Biker Bar bolt in retainer plates have an outer east/west bolt pattern of 27.813" with a north/south bolt spacing of 4.5".  The plates are 1/4" thick 4" x 6" and have the usual 5/8" biker bar mounting bolts retainer nut welded to the bottom of the under bed mounting plate.

My outside "I" beams have approximately 1/4" top beam flat metal, same as the biker bar's under deck retainer plates.  The center stamped channel has around a 2" wide lower channel with two outward top flanges of around 1.25" wide full length.  The center channel appears to be around .188" or just a bit less.  The inside to inside of what I can bolt to on both the center channel and the outside "I" beam is 35.75".

There are no east/west cross beams that are in contact with the 1" garage floor.  So anything I put in will have to be heavy gauge.

Here is a mock up I did yesterday of what I have after taking some measurements and deciding on what or how I want to attach my Biker Bar to the garage floor.

I'll be up front that I may be a bit anal about this and it may end up being overkill when completed.... But I'm thinking it can't be too strong, just not strong enough.

So here is what I have.  The center stamped web channel and the outside "I" beam.  The floor they tell me is a one piece 1" thick plywood floor.  The floor is cut out for the round welded in tie downs and are flush with the top of the garage floor.

I can have a total of 35.75" wide reinforcement bars, which I think I should put in.  B&W says that any floor that will support a bike will work to mount the Biker Bar to.  Although having a bit of each under bed mounting plate in contact with a cross brace of some sort would be even better.

Because I have just the two outside "I" beams and the one center stamped channel, my under bed mounting plates will not "grab" anything but plywood.  But what I plan on doing is using 1.25" x 1.25" x .25" x 35.75" angle iron as my two cross members and as you can see from the individual end screen shots that there's only a couple inches between the under bed plate and the "I" beam or center channel.  Since the "I" beam is .25" and the under bed mounting plates are .25" thick, I plan on bolting the under bed plates through the floor and through the angles.  I'll use 5/16" carriage bolt to sandwich the plates between the floor and the angles.  The end of the angle iron at the center channel will need to have a 1/16" thick spacer between it and the channel to allow for the 1/4" under bed plate.

The "I" beam end will just be a straight forward sandwich without any spacers needed.  I'll bolt the angle iron ends to the outside "I" beam and the center channel.  Carriage bolts there as well.



Here is the blow up of the inside channel connection.



Here is the blow up of the outside "I" beam connection.



So with all that said, should I look at any other means to attach the Biker Bar to the garage floor?  I plan on using some plastic plugs to fill the 5/8" main attachment holes when I'm parked and have the inside Bike Bar removed.

I'll have (8) 5/16" carriage bolts holding the under bed lower plates in place plus the added strength of the angle iron and the 1" thick plywood floor.  I could upgrade the carriage bolts to 3/8", but not really sure with the sandwich effect if the 3/8" would do any more than the 5/16" bolts.

I plan on making up enough to mount two Biker Bars into the floor.  That way I can take both Harleys or the '09 CVO and a Honda Helix.  Plan ahead I say... :)  Although I don't think a Honda Helix will have quite the same stress, but being able to take both Harleys to Sturgis could be fun.  I've had both bikes at Sturgis, but not the same years.  The Shovelhead ran 1500 miles my first year there without any issues, just wash and ride it.

You guys that run with the Biker Bars, do you think that I'm going to be good enough without actually having one or both of the under bed mounting plates directly bolted to a cross member?

Any suggestions or concerns would be greatly appreciated.  This is just in the pre-cut stages, so changes can still be made in the plans.

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2019, 05:02:36 PM »

Well I finally got my Biker Bar installed yesterday.



I just purchase one more used Biker Bar and plan on installing it next weekend.  That way I can haul both my '09 CVO SERG and my '76 FLH Shovelhead.  I may be able to tweak one of the clamp bars to work with my Honda Helix as well.  When we do winter or summer extended, I would only take the CVO and the Honda, not the FLH.  Although I will be taking both to Sturgis next summer just for some added fun.

Right now if I can get the second Biker Bar installed, I plan on parking both into the toy hauler and storing them over the winter in the toy hauler's garage.  A little Stabil and pull the batteries and I'm good to go.

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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2019, 12:11:03 AM »

I have built my own toy hauler & during construction I added a couple of plates that I have tapped threads into

The floor is 19mm Formply & all I did was countersink the bolts into it

I use a condor bike rack and when its in the trailer it is secured with the 4 countersunk bolts when the bike rack it out I simply screw the countersunk bolts back into the floor and you would not even know that they were there unless you went looking for them
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2019, 01:10:28 PM »

Hey Dan when I installed mine (2 different ones and 3 locations) one drilled and mounted took them by my buddy's machine shop and wielded  metal from the bracket support from the bar to a metal cross member. Mine will not tear through the floor if you turn it upside down. Great product, great customer service!

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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2019, 02:50:45 PM »

Well guys, just bought one more yesterday for the other side of the garage floor.

They're both the newer ones with the twin lever toe releases.  One side of my first one is a bit dry and seems to catch when opening and kind of locking up.  I think I'll take it apart and put some grease under the plates to the locking mechanisms move a bit more freely.

I'll be mounting the second one with another two angle iron cross braces the same as the first.  It was a real hassle getting all the holes drilled correctly to match the angle iron predrilled holes, but ended up looking good on the inside of the garage.

I'm going to park my two Harleys in them and take the RV back out to the storage lot for the winter.  Great timing.  Too bad I'm not off on Thursday as it will probably be close to 70 here that day.  In the 40's for the weekend, that sucks... :(

Any thoughts on the way to adjust the main slot mounts?

I see the original Biker Bar has straight slots that the clamp bar slides into.  The newer version has the same starting slots, but the last inch of the slot takes a dip downward about 1/4" to add more preload on the suspension.

Should I have the slot mounts set up so with me on the bike it's a straight in, or should I have to bounce down just a bit to start the clamp bar into the slots?  With the curve downward I'm thinking I can be more aligned rather than having to bounce down to align.

Thoughts?
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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2019, 03:44:37 PM »

This is what I started with for under the garage floor.  You can see the angle iron is full width to span between the outside "I" beams and the center laminated garage floor steel channel assembly.



Here are the two ends prior to drilling it in place.





Here we go, dual Biker Bars all set up and ready for the bikes.



The carriage bolts have been upgraded to 3/8"-16 grade 5.  That should be more than enough to hold it in place in case of a rollover... well maybe not a rollover, but a good stiff pothole or a panic stop etc... :)

I've got room to mount my '09 SERG a bit more forward on the frame and the '76 FLH a bit more rearward.  That way the handlebars will not interfere with each other.  Just have to figure out which to load first... :)

A guy on the Keystone forum has used Biker Bars for many years, first on a trailer and then his toy hauler.  He currently uses two in his toy hauler, one for his '09 CVO Ultra and one for his wife's Tri-Glide.  He's had no issues whatsoever and is very pleased with the way they've worked for them.

I hope to have many years of use from the two I've installed.  I bought them both used for $200 plus shipping and they're both in great shape.

I hope you all have a great Thanksgiving!
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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2019, 05:43:03 PM »

Hey Dan when I installed mine (2 different ones and 3 locations) one drilled and mounted took them by my buddy's machine shop and wielded  metal from the bracket support from the bar to a metal cross member. Mine will not tear through the floor if you turn it upside down. Great product, great customer service!

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Lew there was a photo posted on fb awhile back.  The toyhauler was in an accident and rolled over (completly upside down).  The bike was not touched but it was hanging upside down.

Those two plates mounted under the floor are 4"x5"......if they rip through your 3/4" floor you've got a whole lot bigger problems.   :P

Being a full time RVer for the past 2 1/2 years I've literally been ocean to ocean two and a half times (San Diego to Key West and back then to Colorado then back to Sacramento) and I've been over several of the highest passes in Colorado......the bike is safe using the B & W Biker Bar.  I don't even carry straps anymore.
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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2019, 03:57:31 PM »

Well here they are all nestled in place and ready to take up the winter, or at least most of it anyway.

They went right in other than the '76 FLH is so low that the Biker Bar clamp bar was dragging on the aluminum edge guard on the floor.

I had forgotten to load the washer/dryer combo before the bikes, so I had to remove the CVO to load the combo.  On the way back in I had issues getting the CVO aligned and the left side of the clamp bar seemed to always be just less than fully engaged in the latch.  I tried to move it forward just a bit on the frame, but still a bit of an issue.  So I had to skinny the bike a bit crooked to get it to latch into place solidly. 

I'll have to see what I can do in the spring to get it right.  I think I might put a couple heavy cable ties on the frame tubes to I know where to slide the clamp bar in place so I have it aligned correctly.  Because you only slide it under and raise it up to catch the opposite lower frame rail, getting it perpendicular to the frame seems a bit less than consistent.  But they're in solid, so good for now.

Also if you have them off like I did, the latch thinks it's locked, but the two front levers are not up all the way and there's a gap on the front side of the clamp bar as it's not fully seated in the latch.  When this happens you CANNOT just click down the levers with your foot.  I had to use a dead blow to get them to snap to the unlatched position.  Again I'll rethink this in the spring.







The FLH was tight without any wobbling or rattles.  The CVO was a bit noisy when latched so I took the side plates on the latch down one more 1/4" adjustment and that seemed to take care of the noise and looseness.  This could also "maybe" be my latching issues, it bit TOO low or tight.

Any thoughts?
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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2019, 05:43:17 PM »

It doesn't take very many times of attaching the bar to the bike frame before you'll know exactly where it goes and make sure it's not a bit crooked one side to the other.
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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2019, 12:55:10 PM »

Dan my RG is the same as yours and I just took the blower off of it. Those bikes sat an inch lower anyway. So that is most likely a good idea. I'll see what it fits like when we finish with the fatty front tire set up. I agree with your set up process. Because of the position of the fairing and Handle bars I load the RG last! Happy travels.

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Re: Garage Tie Down Of Your Bike In A Toy Hauler???
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2020, 12:43:45 PM »

Well it finally happened... I brought home my new to my '98 Honda Helix 250cc scooter.



It now has 610 miles on it and needs a few items as it's sat so long things have gone a bit south.  The gas tank has rusted quite a bit and "should" be replaced, but it does not actually leak... yet!  So I may just remove the tank and do a good outside cleaning and repaint after I do a good inside cleaning and coat with POR-15 gas tank sealer.  I've used POR-15 tank sealer a few times and have had nothing but great luck with it.  It needs a fuel pump, new drive belt, clutches serviced, fluids changed, new tires and just a good going over here and there.  I've had all the body off and it's like brand new underneath.





My main posting is this, after just a quick cable tie to raise the left side return water line to the radiator up front, by Touring Biker Bar clamp fits like it was designed to fit it.  The main frame is the same tube size as the Harley touring and the width is within its clamping range.  The top of the bar when I'm sitting on the bike is 5.5" and that's well within the main floor clamping adjustments.  So with or without the Harley aboard, the Honda Helix will be!

Isn't it grand when a plan just falls into place??? :)

This little scooter can hit 70 mph and it may be the bike Linda finally gets back onto after her crash and burn on the Harley Buell during rider training 8 years ago.  The local training place says that IF she were to take the course from them, she could use the Honda as her training bike AND get full credit for a M endorsement for her license.  The scooter is FUN to ride and quite snappy to boot.

Just thought I would give you all a bit of humor for a Sunday. 

Take care all and stay healthy! :)
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