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[Jim Kerr]

I don't know about you guys, but I wasn't very happy with my headlights.  I was thinking that the two huge headlight setup on the bike would blast the light in front of me when riding; however, what I quickly found was my bike is faster than the range of the headlights.  It is dangerous to be riding at night and not being able to clearly see what is in front of me, so I installed HID lights on the bike.  I thought you all would like to see what it takes to do the same. 

The first step is to find a HID kit that will fit the bike.  I've read many posts about XenonLink (http://www.xenonlink.com).  Most say they have good prices, fast shipping and excellent customer service.  They have been very responsive to me and shipped the parts out quickly.  I'm satisfied with my purchase from them. 

The next step is to figure out what type of lights you need.  The Road Glides have a standard H4/9003 hi/low headlight mount. XenonLink sells two kits that will fit our bikes.  The 9003 Hi/Lo HID Kit (http://www.xenonlink.com/index.php?cPath=91) and the H4 Bi-Xenon Kit (http://www.xenonlink.com/index.php?cPath=69).  The difference between the two is that the Hi/Lo kit uses a standard halogen bulb for hi-beam and HID for low.  The bi-xenon light moves a cover when going to hi-beam, which changes the focus point of the beam.  It isn't brighter, just a higher beam.  The downside of using the bi-xenon is that it requires tapping into 12vdc power on the bike and if the bulb is out you don't have hi or low beam.  I chose the 9003 Hi/Low HID kit.  In reality you never need the hi-beam when using xenon. 

The final step in the selection process is to figure out what color temp light to buy.  The higher number does not mean brighter.  5000K is the brightest light.  Below that the light gets yellow.  Above that the light gets blue.  In my opinion, the best colors to use are 5000 or 6000K.  I picked 5K because it is the brightest pure white light. 

[Jim Kerr]

Here's a pic of basically what you get in the kit.  The silver boxes are the power converters that take the 12vdc input and blast up the voltage to get the HID light to fire.  The nice thing about HID lights is that after they start burning they run cooler and take less power than standard halogen lights.

[Jim Kerr]

To install the lights you have to remove the front faring.  It is fairly easy to do, but you have to be careful not to scratch the paint.  The most important step is to cover the fender with a thick towel or fender cover.  It is very, very easy to scratch the paint.  Consider yourself warned.  Do not skip this step!

After the fender is covered, you need to remove the turn signals.  They have two acorn nuts and lock washers on the back.  Remove the nuts and pull them straight out.  They will hang on the power wire no problem.  I loop mine over the back of the engine guard to keep them out of the way.

[Jim Kerr]

The next steps is to remove the front faring.  This is easier than it looks, but you need to watch what you are doing.  First off, find the 6 screws that hold it on.  The screws look basically the same, but the two on the bottom are slightly larger than the 4 on top.  You need to keep track of what screw goes where.  The large screw can be forced into the top holes, but it will strip the threads.  The smaller screws will not work in the bottom and are hard to back out if you accidentally insert one into the hole. 

The trick here is to loosen the top screws.  Then remove the middle and bottom.  This will hold things together in case it tries to slip.  then go around front and remove the top screws while holding the faring.  To remove it push up and pull out.  It will slide right off.

NOTE: You can do this without removing the windshield.  You just need to be careful and not to scratch the paint along the top of the inner faring.  If you are concerned about this, the windshield comes off easily by removing 5 screws that are in front.   

[Jim Kerr]

Here's a pic of what the bike looks like after the front faring is removed.  The black wire hanging down in the center is the headlight wire.  You can see in the center of this wire there are two wires tied back (one has a red cap).  This is for the European daytime running lights.  If you need power for the bi-xenon lights this is where you can get it.  The orange wire is 12vdc and the black is ground.  The 12vdc wire is powered when in the ignition position. 

[Jim Kerr]

The next step is to mount the xenon power boxes.  I double sided taped mine to the outer faring to the left and right side of the headlight housings.  They fit there perfectly.  The rest of the install for the 9003/H4 is plug and play.  Mount the HID light in the headlight housing, plug the cables together and then plug the bikes Headlight cable into the HID cable.  The bi-xenon requires one other step to spice into the bikes power source. 

[Jim Kerr]

You mount the faring back on the bike in the reverse of how it was removed.  The trick here is to stand in front and push slightly up and back from the center.  You will feel it catch and hook in.  There are hooks just in front of the radio that connect to the headlight housing on the faring. 

There are also tabs on the left and right side of the faring that need to clip under the inner faring.  This is what holds the top edge of the outer faring to the inner so there isn't a gap.  Then screw things together with the turn signals going on last.

[Jim Kerr]

Here's a pic of my OEM headlights before making the change...

[Jim Kerr]

Here's what they look like after.  They put out so much more light my camera was able to make the instrument panel brighter.  These were taken in the exact same location. 

[Jim Kerr]

Here's a pic of what the lights look like when I'm behind you !! 

[Dragon42]

Very Cool.  I did this on a V-Rod, and it worked great.  Looks like you did the speakers too.  Any comment on the products used, and the sound?

[viaton]

Woohoo! Learning more and more while waiting for my SERG!

Thanks again Jim Kerr, GREAT stuff! 

[Jim Kerr]

Very Cool.  I did this on a V-Rod, and it worked great.  Looks like you did the speakers too.  Any comment on the products used, and the sound?

I installed a Hawg-Wired system.  Here's a link to the discussion we had about it:

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=27558.msg446460#msg446460

[Boatman]

Another nice write up with pictures, Jim..   

Maybe you could throw in a good looking helper gal now and again.   

[Jim Kerr]

Maybe you could throw in a good looking helper gal now and again.   

I've spent all of my money on parts, this is the only Harley Girl I can afford...

[Jim Kerr]

Here's her best side 

[GregKhougaz]

Jim,

          Thank you again for great information!  I received my Xenonlink package yesterday afternoon and will install tonight.  

          BTW I installed the KW with the stock rubber gasket -- much better that trying to use the stock. 

Greg

[Jim Kerr]

Thank you again for great information!  I received my Xenonlink package yesterday afternoon and will install tonight.  I got the bi xenon kit and will have to splice I suppose.  I'll let you know what I find. 

The bi-xenon is a good light.  You'll no doubt like it.  FYI, you just need to install a quick disconnect of some-sort so you can easily remove the faring from the bike.  Fortunately they have the connections on the main wire harness.  Makes the bi-xenon install much easier. 

BTW I installed the KW with the stock rubber gasket -- much better that trying to use the stock. 

Yep, had to do the same thing.  The stock ones on the SERG will not work very with the KW shield.  They designed them to fit on the standard bikes. 

[Boatman]

She rides her own bike, that's even better.   

[Jim Kerr]

She rides her own bike, that's even better.   

Us CVO owners deserve the best that the rest of my money can buy 

[bbrown]

Us CVO owners deserve the best that the rest of my money can buy 

Jim thanks so much for youur effort on this.  I really appreciate it.  By the way have you thought about HID for the dash lights

[Jim Kerr]

Jim thanks so much for youur effort on this.  I really appreciate it.  By the way have you thought about HID for the dash lights

They would be way to bright.  The red looks nice and matches the radio display. 

FYI, it would be fairly easy to change the color of the instruments.  The bulbs just have a red slip-on plastic cover over them.  You could put any color on the bulb and change the instrument color.  The Yellow bikes would look pretty cool with yellow gauges. 

[bbrown]

They would be way to bright.  The red looks nice and matches the radio display. 

FYI, it would be fairly easy to change the color of the instruments.  The bulbs just have a red slip-on plastic cover over them.  You could put any color on the bulb and change the instrument color.  The Yellow bikes would look pretty cool with yellow gauges. 

How about orange

[Jim Kerr]

How about orange

Orange would look cool, but red is close enough to orange for me.  It would be hard to go orange and make it look materially different than red.  However, I think Yellow would stand out big time.  It would look very cool to have a yellow bike with yellow back-lighted gauges.   

[MikeD]

Jim, since joining this site you have proved to be a plethora of knowledge and documenting everthing with photos and text.  Thanks so much for making modifications to my bike much easier.  I definitely feel a little bit more confident in completing some of these projects.  Although, I wouldn't mind if you hop in that sweet ride and fly down to GA for some technical assistance!  Thanks again!

[bbrown]

Jim, since joining this site you have proved to be a plethora of knowledge and documenting everthing with photos and text.  Thanks so much for making modifications to my bike much easier.  I definitely feel a little bit more confident in completing some of these projects.  Although, I wouldn't mind if you hop in that sweet ride and fly down to GA for some technical assistance!  Thanks again!

I agree with Mike D.  You are welcome to visit me in Wisconsin anytime (and a good stopping point enroute to Sturgis) especaily if you will help me with a couple of SERG projects Best regards

[Carlos Silva]

Jim, since joining this site you have proved to be a plethora of knowledge and documenting everthing with photos and text.

MAJOR DITTOS TO THAT!!!

[roady]

I agree with the both of you as well. I do have one problem with Jim though, and that is he just keeps me spending money like know one else!!!!

Jim you make your directions so nice with pics and descriptions that even I can do it. Now you have to come up with a way to get us some more money!!!

Thanks again for another great write up.

[GregKhougaz]

Jim, turns out I have the same set as you.  So, I took a long lunch from the office and went home to do the install.  Took about an hour an one half going slowly and carefully.  Very easy!!  Lights are great!  Thanks for your continued efforts and intructions. 


Greg

[Jim Kerr]

Thanks everyone for your nice comments.  What's great about the effort we are all putting into this is that the documentation we are creating will help countless others.  We are not only helping our CVO family today, we are helping Harley owners throughout the world make their rides better for years to come. 

How cool is that? 

[planenut]

Jim

you are the man for great updates and info     

thanks for what you have shown us

  JON

[FLSTFI Dave]

Jim,

Thanks for the good how toos.  I have this thread and your Hawg Wired install threads both book marked.  No doubt I will be using this information when my SERG comes in this winter.

[bribe36]

Can someone provide some guidance? I'm trying to take off the outer fairing but having no luck. I followed Jim's directions ( towel on fender, 6 screws out, acorn nuts off turn signels, pull up and out). The thing won't budge. Am I missing something? Are there some clips holding it in place? GRRRRRRRR

[hdbrad03]

The outer fairing hangs on two hooks that are part of the radio bracket. Grab the front of the fairing in the headlight pocket and lift up then out. It should pop off the hooks. Make sure you have a good grip on the fairing. Don't drop it on you front fender.


 
     Brad

[TN]

Can someone provide some guidance? I'm trying to take off the outer fairing but having no luck. I followed Jim's directions ( towel on fender, 6 screws out, acorn nuts off turn signels, pull up and out). The thing won't budge. Am I missing something? Are there some clips holding it in place? GRRRRRRRR

taking it off is easy, wait till ya go to put it on.

the way i do it is pop the headlight bucket out, after the fairing is off. you can easily get the fairing on the hooks then put the light assembly back in.

 i learned the hard way.


i do see ppl that just throw it on time after time, after a dozen times er so it gets better.



good luck


TN

[customryder]

 Jim ,,are you getting flashed at a lot ? as in you high beams are on?

[The Bolvine Gigolo!]

Jim ,,are you getting flashed at a lot ? as in you high beams are on?

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We've had the bulbs installed on both of the Seegs, and we have a hell of a time with people flashing us everytime we ride at night, I've adjusted them so that there almost shining straight down and people still think we have our high beams on, there SO bright.

[Twolanerider]

We've had the bulbs installed on both of the Seegs, and we have a hell of a time with people flashing us everytime we ride at night, I've adjusted them so that there almost shining straight down and people still think we have our high beams on, there SO bright.

No idea what the difference might be.  Have had them on the SEEG for a very long time now.  When just low beams are on I don't remember getting flashed.

[Jim Kerr]

Jim ,,are you getting flashed at a lot ? as in you high beams are on?

I love being flashed  

I get people commenting on my lights in the daytime, but I could care less.  Safety is my #1 concern.  See and be seen is my motto.  These lights are seen clearly in the daytime.  I couldn't tell you the number of times people have pulled out in front of me before installing them.  If I weren't on my game watching for these idiots I'd be a spot on the road.  When I catch them (and I usually do) they say, "Sorry, I didn't see you."  I don't have that problem as often now.  These lights catch attention in broad daylight.  And I do a ton of driving in Chicago traffic with tons of A-Hole drivers.  I do get some flashing at night, but surprisingly not as much as I expected.  Drivers are getting use to the xenon lights.  Many cars have them now days. 

[hd-dude]

I have been flashed a few times but then I just hit the high beam to let them know it was on the low

[bribe36]

The outer fairing hangs on two hooks that are part of the radio bracket. Grab the front of the fairing in the headlight pocket and lift up then out. It should pop off the hooks. Make sure you have a good grip on the fairing. Don't drop it on you front fender.


 
     Brad

Hey Brad thanks for letting me know about the hooks. When I tried a second time to remove the fairing, knowing about the hooks I got it off in no time. Getting it back on was more of a challenge though, Thank much

[Texas 103]

Hey Brad thanks for letting me know about the hooks. When I tried a second time to remove the fairing, knowing about the hooks I got it off in no time. Getting it back on was more of a challenge though, Thank much

Blanket or fender cover on front fender works very well,...just in case...don't ask me how I know....

[Dragon42]

The bi-xenon is a good light.  You'll no doubt like it.  FYI, you just need to install a quick disconnect of some-sort so you can easily remove the faring from the bike.  Fortunately they have the connections on the main wire harness.  Makes the bi-xenon install much easier. 

Do you need a quick disconnect for the Hi/Lo Kit?  If so, what did you use?

Yep, had to do the same thing.  The stock ones on the SERG will not work very with the KW shield.  They designed them to fit on the standard bikes. 

[inthewind729]

Well just ordered the Xenonlink kit and looking forward to lighting up the road. Now a couple of questions for you men and women of knowledge.
1) Would driving lights just be overkill with this kit installed?
2) If I was to put driving lights on would I use the european running light wire you mention for power?
Thanks
Ride safe to one day ride free

[GregKhougaz]

1) Would driving lights just be overkill with this kit installed?
2) If I was to put driving lights on would I use the european running light wire you mention for power?
Thanks

     1.)     I have the  H4(9003, HB2) Hi/Lo 6000K Automobile HID Kit in my SERG and have ridden at night in some dark canyons (no moon, no street lighting) here in So. Cal.  Plenty of light now and I like as much as possible.  Rarely use the high beam which is still halogen on this kit.

     2.)     The xenon lights use less power.  So you can probably tap the Euro. source for power but I don't really know because I don't know what you want to install.  It depends on the total draw. 
 

[Jim Kerr]

Well just ordered the Xenonlink kit and looking forward to lighting up the road. Now a couple of questions for you men and women of knowledge.
1) Would driving lights just be overkill with this kit installed?
2) If I was to put driving lights on would I use the european running light wire you mention for power?

Expanding on Greg's comments:

My opinion is that driving lights are way overkill.  The color temp of the lights will not match the HID's either.  You will probably get a lot of people hitting you with hi-beams if you were to do this.  Aux lights also mount in the same position as lowers.  You would not be able to use both at the same time. 

If you want AUX lights, you need to power them off of a switched circuit or they would be on all of the time.  The AUX switch on the forks is the preferred power source for this application.  You can then turn them on/off.  The European output is always on.  It is also designed for low-wattage lights.  Aux lights would pull too many amps to use this connection.  You would need to install a relay, on/off switch and run a power wire to the battery if you were to use the European power connection.   

[inthewind729]

Thanks fellas. I'll can the driving lights and put the money toward heated riding gear.
Have a great Thanksgiving.
Ride safe to one day ride free

[Jim Kerr]

Thanks fellas. I'll can the driving lights and put the money toward heated riding gear.

I second that.  I bought some heated gear and love it.  Best money I've spent.  I've been riding in 30 degree weather and it's warmer than my car!

[Deuce Bigelow]

We've had the bulbs installed on both of the Seegs, and we have a hell of a time with people flashing us everytime we ride at night, I've adjusted them so that there almost shining straight down and people still think we have our high beams on, there SO bright.

you're getting flashed because the factory DOT headlight housings were not designed for HID. the factory housings cannot focus the HID beam properly because they were designed for the halogen bulbs, and as a result you're throwing light everywhere....
to truly take advantage of a HID bulb you need a projector housing, and this bulb swap HID kits are not DOT approved so you can get pulled over and ticketed for using them, plus they will not pass state inspection (in the states that have vehicle inspection).

but, if they cause people to see you better, then F'em..........  LOL

[Jim Kerr]

you're getting flashed because the factory DOT headlight housings were not designed for HID. the factory housings cannot focus the HID beam properly because they were designed for the halogen bulbs, and as a result you're throwing light everywhere....
to truly take advantage of a HID bulb you need a projector housing, and this bulb swap HID kits are not DOT approved so you can get pulled over and ticketed for using them, plus they will not pass state inspection (in the states that have vehicle inspection).

but, it they cause people to see you better, then F'em..........  LOL

Most bikers ride during the day than night anyhow.  See and be seen is rule #1 when riding.  HID lights are seen as clear as the sun during the daytime.  At night they are indeed bright, but who really cares?  Flash the freaking drivers back and call it a day.  At least you know they see you, which is much better than being hit by the idiot that doesn't see you.  Just look away form the lights and your night vision will be preserved.   

From an inspection perspective, it is easy as pie to change the lights back to OEM while leaving the HID modules in the faring.  Just disconnect the wires and install the OEM lights prior to inspection.  It is possible to get a ticket, but they are easy to avoid.  Just switch to the non-HID hi-beams when riding in enforcement areas. 

[Highjagger]

The osram nightbraker brings a good result on my bike so far , you just can replace it easily instead of the stock one and do not have to make other modifications and is permitted ( here in germany ) and cheap ( about 15 Euro ) .

[JP]

Thanks everyone for your nice comments.  What's great about the effort we are all putting into this is that the documentation we are creating will help countless others.  We are not only helping our CVO family today, we are helping Harley owners throughout the world make their rides better for years to come. 

How cool is that? 

Jim will i need to buy two kits, or an extra bulb for one kit.
 Thank`s for all your help

[Jim Kerr]

Jim will i need to buy two kits, or an extra bulb for one kit.
 Thank`s for all your help

You need to order the car kit for the SERG's.  It comes with two bulbs and ballast. 

[JP]

You need to order the car kit for the SERG's.  It comes with two bulbs and ballast. 

Thanks Jim,  I just thought about that after i made my post. Still, thanks for all the other info.

[FLSTFI Dave]

You need to order the car kit for the SERG's.  It comes with two bulbs and ballast. 

Good information.  That is the way I plan to go once my SERG comes in.

[TN]

i've been fooling around with the hid lights for some time now. i have them on my 08 and 09 tr's.

anyhow from personal experience if you remove the chrome shade on the bulb (the whole thing) the light beam is much more usable.

i have done this on both bikes and tried it all.


i hope this make sense



TN

[bisounours]

i've been fooling around with the hid lights for some time now. i have them on my 08 and 09 tr's.

anyhow from personal experience if you remove the chrome shade on the bulb (the whole thing) the light beam is much more usable.

i have done this on both bikes and tried it all.


i hope this make sense



TN

 

[TN]

 

H4/9003 Bi-Xenon is the bulb type I’m referring to. I’ve tried them the way they came, the end shade off, and then the whole shade off. I get the best results with the latter.
This is also on the fltr headlight bucket. The bulb base differs from mfgs too. The shorter the better on the tr for proper headlight adjustment along with the trim piece fitting.
With the shade on I get a cateye effect. Off, the beam is spread evenly the way it should be. And the hi-lo seems to be much more efficient.

I did lots of trial and error.



TN

[TN]

end off.

[TN]

what works for me.

[Highjagger]

So now i will replace the stock bulbs with the " Osram-Nightbraker " ,
i guess i have to remove the outer fairing too .
Or is their a possibility to change the bulbs without removing the outer fairing ? 

[hdbrad03]

NO! Outer fairing must come off.

 
     Brad

[Highjagger]

thxs

[Highjagger]

HoHoHo ,
changing the bulbs was much easier when i did it at my Fatboy ,
The problem was to bring back the sharknose-fairing in the right position ,
there are soooo many details you have to look , that was not soo easy for me .
If you never did it before ( like me ) or even have experience with a Batwing ( that i had ) then don`t do it .
At the end , i speek about 3 hours , i finally made it , the fairing is perfect back on the bike .
And here is the result of replacing the stock bulbs with the " Osram Bilux H4 replace Nightbraker " bulbs :
I think you can see a difference :
Stock bulbs :

[Highjagger]

Osram Nightbraker Bilux H4 replace bulbs:

[hdbrad03]

I replaced the headlight bulbs with Osram Nightbreakers they are allot better than stock. When you remove the shark nose front just remove the black headlight cover. Then snap out the headlight housing by squeezing the green clips. Hang the outer fairing on the hooks and hookup the headlight wires then snap the headlight housing into fairing. Finish applying screws, turnsignal and black bezel.

 
     Brad

[TN]

I replaced the headlight bulbs with Osram Nightbreakers they are allot better than stock. When you remove the shark nose front just remove the black headlight cover. Then snap out the headlight housing by squeezing the green clips. Hang the outer fairing on the hooks and hookup the headlight wires then snap the headlight housing into fairing. Finish applying screws, turnsignal and black bezel.

 
     Brad

they need to put this in the manual.

inserting the bucket can be a bit tedious but its much easier this way.


TN

[Highjagger]

Yes , i believe , this way would be better , i thought about removing the brezel but did not knew that the headlight housing is also so easy to relocate .I will keep that in mind for the next time . THXS .

[nine11c2]

I want to install the kit, I think the XenonLink, on my Deuce - 2004 with a standard H4 bulb I believe.  Has anyone done similar?  I'm not too concerned about the focus, people will deal, thought with 2004 I have the glass relectors, not the clear glass and rear deflector.

Big question is - has someone done with a simlar small headlight - is there room in headlight for the ballast, if not where did you put it?

Did light focus work out reasonably well in any similar year, lens reflecter install?

OK, one more, and don't laugh - they talk about the light temperature colors.  Is there any actualy temperature difference - meaning is the 8000 color actually burn hotter and should be stayed away from in motorcycle applications?

Steve

[Highjagger]

replace the bulb with a Osram nightbraker , that is much much much easier and brings out a very good result and is very cheap ( just about 14 Euro ) 

[bisounours]

I want to install the kit, I think the XenonLink, on my Deuce - 2004 with a standard H4 bulb I believe.  Has anyone done similar?  I'm not too concerned about the focus, people will deal, thought with 2004 I have the glass relectors, not the clear glass and rear deflector.

Big question is - has someone done with a simlar small headlight - is there room in headlight for the ballast, if not where did you put it?

Did light focus work out reasonably well in any similar year, lens reflecter install?

OK, one more, and don't laugh - they talk about the light temperature colors.  Is there any actualy temperature difference - meaning is the 8000 color actually burn hotter and should be stayed away from in motorcycle applications?

Steve

Good afternoon nine11c2

  on the CVO website 

It would be nice for the other membes if you present you in the thread New member introduction
with a pic of your bike 

Best regards

  Jacques

[nine11c2]

I kinda was trying to stay a little below the radar because in truth, my Deuce is, well, a Deuce not a CVO.  I joined because I found this group to be very knowledgeable and civil, a difficult thing to find in a Harley web site...You can commence kicking me off now...but I beg for mercy, I owned up to my motoring inadequacies...

[JP]

I kinda was trying to stay a little below the radar because in truth, my Deuce is, well, a Deuce not a CVO.  I joined because I found this group to be very knowledgeable and civil, a difficult thing to find in a Harley web site...You can commence kicking me off now...but I beg for mercy, I owned up to my motoring inadequacies...

Welcome 

[RickC]

Welcome, 911c2...

[jettjocky]

Jim, we just never ride at night, so most likely will never do the mod, but having said that, I just wanted you to know how much I always enjoy your posts, it's one thing to start a thread & say, lookie what I did" but it's another to take the time to detail HOW you did it. Again I really enjoy the information threads you post.  much regards, Jack in GA.

[HDBaggerDave]

I planned on installing HID's this weekend and thought... maybe Jim has installed these and put together one of his famous "how to'.  Sure enough....thanks again .  If you are not already a technical writer for some company, you ought to be.

[skippy49]

The bi-xenon light moves a cover when going to hi-beam, which changes the focus point of the beam


  Does anyone have any idea about the longevity of this type of bulb?  I was thinking that I might prefer this bulb but have some doubts about how long it might last with a little cover that is moved every time it's switched from low to high.  Anyone have any ideas on this??
TIA

[Highwaystar]

I have both HI and Low with the "little window" and they work perfectly. I haven't had any problems and the manufacturer  says these bulbs are supposed to last 3 times longer. Why not take advantage of the technology and go all the way with both. The beams are fantastic, especially High when it's needed!

[skippy49]

  Think I'll order a set so I can get them on now while the weather is still cold here.

[Iglide]

Did the 6k light kit today, spent about 3 hours on it. First time with the fairing.... Getting it back on is the chits, have patients and work with it, it will go. Gum backs and wire ties will help keep the wire up and prevent pinching them in the areas where the fairing faces match up.

The low beam running lights have the 6k blue tint, the high beams are the traditional white.

Ready for a night ride !

Thanks to Jim for the idea and install tips !

[LarryB]

What did this set up run you

[RickC]

I ordered the XenonLink dual HID kit w/halogen high-beams at http://www.xenonlink.com/. The setup cost me about $120. I think the shipping was free. It took about an hour to install, but I tend to take my time with things and contemplate carefully each think I am doing as well as trying multiple options. Most of that hour was removing and re-installing the fairing.

Jim, thanks for the tip! Now, I can see while riding at night! What a great, inexpensive upgrade!

[Iglide]

Cheap by my way of thinkin Larry, around $120 delivered. And, they do a priority mail fast ship. From what the other folks have said this really lights up the night. Something I need round here, lotta deer....
The factory lights just didn't do it for me... My night vision isn't the best anyway in my old age  

[LarryB]

I agree, the reason I ask is I just got a quote for over 400 for a digital hi/low set up.
I likes 120

[skippy49]

Cheap by my way of thinkin Larry, around $120 delivered. And, they do a priority mail fast ship. From what the other folks have said this really lights up the night. Something I need round here, lotta deer....
The factory lights just didn't do it for me... My night vision isn't the best anyway in my old age  

Iglide,  when did you get yours?  I just checked their site and the automotive kit with two lights is $149.99.  Maybe they just recently raised their price.  That would figure since I didn't get mine ordered yet.

[Highwaystar]

I also paid $149. That is the price for the HID high and low. The HID low and halogen high is $119.99 http://www.xenonlink.com/9004+Bi-Xenon+HID+Kit.htm

[skippy49]

That explains it.  I didn't look at the one with the halogen bulb.

[Iglide]

The $120 Kit uses a High Intensity Discharge Lamp for low beam and a Halogen Lamp for high beam. It got cold here last eve and I didn't have an opportunity to check it out after dark. Waiting for consistent riding weather, is starting to give heartburn.

[HDBaggerDave]

I did the 9003 Low HID/High Halogen several weeks ago.  Has anyone experienced any problems with theirs?    This past week, each time I start the bike (cold start) the left bulb does not fire.  If I hit the high beam and switch back the HID lights.  After an email to xenon it was clear as mud (could be this or could be that).  So before I remove the fairing one more time and either ship back the bulb, the ballast , or both.....has anyone had this type of problem?

[Iglide]

Too bad it's not easy to switch bulbs. However; my experience with HID systems tell me that the module you mounted inside the fairing likely consits of a ballast (xfmr), igniter, and possibly a capacitor. I would suspect igniter or bulb first, capacitor (if one is a component) next. Sorry, sounds as though it just can't get the boost, to start. I doubt it will get any better. Try switching bulbs first.

I would have them send me a new ballast and bulb. Then after you change both out, send their faulty components back. That way you don't have it tore apart for days.   

Industrial HID lighting will generally generate symptoms such as these after a couple years of operations. Installing the wrong type of bulb (mercury vapor, metal, sodium vapor) etc.. will also damage the igniting components, many of the bases are interchangeable. I wouldn't think this would be the case, as what was sent to you was a kit.

Of course this all assumes, your connections are good, and there isn't a wire pinched in the fariing housing.

[Iglide]

I was able to ride "after dark" this eve as the weather cooperated. I can say that after installing the H4(9003, HB2) Hi/Lo 6000K Automobile HID Kit that I no longer have need of high beam. The 6000K HID low beam is brighter and wider (at least to my ol eyes) than the halogen high beam.   Thought you might want to know...

Very happy with this kit and the 6K HID low beam, very wide and projects way out there....

[LarryB]

And what did that set up run you all in.
Also, 411 on the chrome starter.

[Jim Kerr]

I was able to ride "after dark" this eve as the weather cooperated. I can say that after installing the H4(9003, HB2) Hi/Lo 6000K Automobile HID Kit that I no longer have need of high beam. The 6000K HID low beam is brighter and wider (at least to my ol eyes) than the halogen high beam.   Thought you might want to know...

iglide, I'm glad you like the HID kit.  It is indeed a night and day difference (HaHa) with HID's on board.  Not only do they significantly improve night visibility, they dramatically enhance safety.  Even in the day, the bright lights catch the attention of oncoming traffic for miles ahead.  I've lost count of the vehicles that start to pull out in front of me and then stop when they see the lights.   

[Iglide]

Thanks Jim, Great Addition !

[Smuuth]

This HID kit looks really great and I want to thank Jim Kerr for the detailed instructions.  Having said that, however, I am interested in getting opinions from anyone who has decided to use either 6000k or 8000k HID lights on their SERG.  I do want the increased lighting from the HID and I am thinking I would like to go more blue than the 5000k yields. 

[Beemer]

I've got the 6000K and am very pleased with them.  They look blue but emit a pure white light...as someone posted earlier, they really show true colors so signs and DEER standout much better.  As Jim said, it really gets the attention of other drivers during the day as well.  You'll love them.

[cvosjoe]

Does anyone know if the HID light kits work with the Harley hi/low garage door openers? Thinking of getting the HID 9003 Hi/Low kit for my 09 SERG but wanted to check first.

[PR3VS56]

Does anyone know if the HID light kits work with the Harley hi/low garage door openers? Thinking of getting the HID 9003 Hi/Low kit for my 09 SERG but wanted to check first.

I suspect no problem.  The garage door opener taps into the headlamp wiring before the bulbs.

I have another HID question specifically for RoadGlides.  Do our lamps have 2 different level settings?  It seems that 1 bulb is pointed lower/higher than the other.  Is this to give a greater span of coverage?  If so, how does this effect the HID conversion.  Thanks!!

[Highjagger]

I think that both levels are equal at mine .
Anybody else has differents ?

[Highwaystar]

When you install the HID hi/lo system, you use only one of the bikes head lamp plugs. the other plug is not used. It is perfect to plug and play the garage door opener! It's like it was a factory option.

[PR3VS56]

When you install the HID hi/lo system, you use only one of the bikes head lamp plugs. the other plug is not used. It is perfect to plug and play the garage door opener! It's like it was a factory option.

Oooooh.  That's exciting!  I'm adding the garage door opener now.  In place, but not yet wired.  Thanks for the tip!!!

[PR3VS56]

Being that I have 2 bulbs side by side, I'm inclined to go with the Bi-Xenon HID.  No risk of going total dark (unless both bulbs burn our simultaneously, and that's highly unlikely), and brighter hi-beams.  What's wrong with my logic?

[Highwaystar]

 

[cvosjoe]

Thanks for the info on the garage door opener.

[tlr]

good info on the door opener.  Does anyone know if a headlight modulator will work with this setup.  I Have a Pathblazer one installed on my ride now and would like to keep that as an added safety feature.  Thanks

[Smuuth]

good info on the door opener.  Does anyone know if a headlight modulator will work with this setup.  I Have a Pathblazer one installed on my ride now and would like to keep that as an added safety feature.  Thanks

A modulator will NOT work with HID headlights.

[skippy49]

I'm installing my HID lights now and am having trouble getting the rubber water shield from the factory bulbs over the new HID lamp/s.  Did everyone use them?  Jim's picture shows them in place, stretched a little, but it seems like I might tear them to get them over the HID light base.  Maybe that's ok or maybe they won't tear,  just wondering what everyone else did.
TIA
Steve

[skippy49]

Forgot to mention I've got the Bi-Xenon which has a pretty large bulb base.

[brucebike]

Has any been had problems with HID messing up their radio singal, I have a Dakota Digital Electronic hidden antenna which I suspect to be the problem, any solutions out their for this interference.

Appreciate any suggestion for a fix, Thanks Bruce

[gordy]

I have a Tunetrapper hidden antennae and don't have any radio interference with HID.  I used the Allumina brand Xenon HID's.

[Twolanerider]

Have the Tunetrapper in the red bike.  No problem with it either.  Have used them in other places without issue also.  Have had poor performance from the Dakota Digital small antenna a couple times though.  They're why I use the Tunetrappers.

[brucebike]

Gordon

Thanks for the reply and information, I'll do some research and see what I can learn, in trying to solve my situation,

Bruce

[Hotrod50]

Can you run the tunetrapper in addition to the stock antennae?  Is there some kind of splitter?

[Fired00d]

Can you run the tunetrapper in addition to the stock antennae?  Is there some kind of splitter?

Wouldn't something like this work? - ANTENNA SPLITTER Y ADAPTER male to 2 female UNI Y2FM

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[911Hawk]

Did mine today and I love them. One problem mine was shipped with a bad bulb 1 (no high beam) contacted the company and waiting for a reply.

[911Hawk]

Here is where I mounted the ballast. Thanks again Jim for paving the way on this topic. 

[911Hawk]

Side view..Last one.

[jettjocky]

You know I have been thinking about this mod for several months, not long ago i got an iPad and thought I'd just set down and review the whole post, however just prior to doing so I just happened to pick up a 2010 HD acc. Catalog. What I noticed was just about every new acc. In that catalog I'd seen before, and then it hit me all HD is doing is letting little guys all over the u.s. Do all their work for them, then they just copy it and put it in their catalog, in many cases putting the little guy out of business, .......there is not one, .........not one other lighting option for one of the most popular models they produce, the road glide,.......... HID LED  for every other model but nothing, nothing for the road glide'............ nothing,..... so that leaves us jury rigging hids for better light. Why, cause hd is waiting for someone else to come out with a soluation so then they can rip them off. We have been working on a part that will fit  touring models for over two years and I'm confident within 6 mos. Of our release Hd will rip us off like they do everyone else......... Accs. And shirts are all that is keeping  their heads above water now. 

Love the bike, but hate the way HD does business, i guess we'll have to come out with proper hid lights for the rg so hd will come out with them

 

[HawgSounds]

HawgSounds make a Bi-Xenon HID kit made for the Roadglide. The kit includes Hi and Low Bi-Xenon bulb with reflector so the light is directed out instead of around. Also they used the state of the art slimline ballast and the kit come with the power relay design for Harley Motorcycles to keep the factory wiring separate so there is no way of overheating the factory wiring harness. You can reach them at 1-877-888-2788.

[jettjocky]

looks interesting thanks very much for the information

[LarryB]

TERRY, how much for that set up

[HawgSounds]

For the Road Glide with the CVO Discount is $169.95 shipped. The kit includes 2 slim ballast, 2 H4 Bi-Xenon Bulbs, Dual wire harness with rely for the Harley Davidson. Also available for Single bulb (Electric Glide, Street Glide, Road Glide) for $99.95 Shipped. That kit includes 1ea Slim Ballast, 1ea H4 Bi-Xenon Bulbs, wire harness with rely for the Harley Davidson.

[HawgSounds]

For the Road Glide with the CVO Discount is $169.95 shipped. The kit includes 2 slim ballast, 2 H4 Bi-Xenon Bulbs, Dual wire harness with rely for the Harley Davidson.

[HawgSounds]

Also available for Single bulb (Electric Glide, Street Glide, Road King, Softail) for $99.95 Shipped. That kit includes 1ea Slim Ballast, 1ea H4 Bi-Xenon Bulbs, wire harness with rely for the Harley Davidson.

[HawgSounds]

Also available for Single bulb (Electric Glide, Street Glide, Road King, Softail) for $99.95 Shipped. That kit includes 1ea Slim Ballast, 1ea H4 Bi-Xenon Bulbs, wire harness with rely for the Harley Davidson.

[2018_FLTRXSE]

HawgSounds make a Bi-Xenon HID kit made for the Roadglide. The kit includes Hi and Low Bi-Xenon bulb with reflector so the light is directed out instead of around. Also they used the state of the art slimline ballast and the kit come with the power relay design for Harley Motorcycles to keep the factory wiring separate so there is no way of overheating the factory wiring harness. You can reach them at 1-877-888-2788.

What color (K range) are these and are there options?

Hawaii is extremely picky when it comes to lights that have any inkling of blue.

[HawgSounds]

6000K, 8000K,10,000K and 12,000K.

[North Star]

For the Road Glide with the CVO Discount is $169.95 shipped. The kit includes 2 slim ballast, 2 H4 Bi-Xenon Bulbs, Dual wire harness with rely for the Harley Davidson. Also available for Single bulb (Electric Glide, Street Glide, Road Glide) for $99.95 Shipped. That kit includes 1ea Slim Ballast, 1ea H4 Bi-Xenon Bulbs, wire harness with rely for the Harley Davidson.

Sorry, but I gotta ask.....I thought HID kits were like $400.00 + ? How is it that this one is so inexpensive, and since it is, what is the warranty, and how is it as good or better than the pricier ones?

[HawgSounds]

I had them manufacture to my specifications and I design them for Motorcycles (Harley Davidson Specific). The warrenty is 1 Year. I have had them on my 2005 SEEG since 2006 and have not had any problem.

[2018_FLTRXSE]

6000K, 8000K,10,000K and 12,000K.

Thanks...

[DesertHOG]

HawgSounds make a Bi-Xenon HID kit made for the Roadglide. The kit includes Hi and Low Bi-Xenon bulb with reflector so the light is directed out instead of around. Also they used the state of the art slimline ballast and the kit come with the power relay design for Harley Motorcycles to keep the factory wiring separate so there is no way of overheating the factory wiring harness. You can reach them at 1-877-888-2788.

Terry, 

You still in business? Tried the 1-877# and it doesn't appear to work anymore.

DH

[GregKhougaz]

Simon,  I saw your post.  I sent you a cell for Terry via PM.  I did not try it and it has been a while.  If you don't get him, try Xenonlink.com

Greg

[Beach Bum]

Simon,  I saw your post.  I sent you a cell for Terry via PM.  I did not try it and it has been a while.  If you don't get him, try Xenonlink.com

Greg

Greg, I also tried calling Hawg Sounds, but appears the number has been disconnected.  Anybody know if he's still in business?