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Hell I just want to figure out how to put those cute red arrows in .....

Paint Greg Paint!
Brush strokes!

 

[Unbalanced]

Greg,

Start, Programs, Accessories, then Paint.  From there on the left margin you can draw lines, boxes or use the spray can to do what you want and even choose the color to do so.

then when you think you have it the way you want it, File, Save As jpg. and name it.

Also if you screw up along the way under edit, is the undo command it will undo what you just did.
 

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[09S/E roadglide]

  thats awesome work. is it even a possibility someone will make aftermarket pipes??

[Hoist!]

Sure seems a lot easier to get an '09 96" CC free headpipe w/good slipons, and keep your stock CVO Exhaust system intact for the future, especially since a lot of you guys don't seem to mind trading your bikes.

Or get a FatCat of course!

Hoist!

[Guilty]

Sure seems a lot easier to get an '09 96" CC free headpipe w/good slipons, and keep your stock CVO Exhaust system intact for the future, especially since a lot of you guys don't seem to mind trading your bikes.

Or get a FatCat of course!

Hoist!

In hindsight, I agree.

[grit]

Vance & Hines Head pipes are due out in January 09.  Cost ... only $520.00

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[Hoist!]

Howie

A 96" header runs around $400.00 give or take whatever the discount is.
I can understand why so many are just drilling out the cat.
And I agree with Greg that all of the CC needs to be removed. But what do I know? (don't answer that)
You and I have the FatCat and I'm of the opinion you can't get any better than that!

SBB

For the headpipe alone? No heat shields or clamps/brackets. etc? Holy crap!!! Drill away my friends!!! Or better yet, get the FatCat. Someone found them for just over $600!

Hoist!

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[LarryB]

Last I spoke with Steve from Fullsac he said that after the first of the year, he would have true dual setups for the 09's that will use the stock heat shields. to further enhance the sleeper set up. I for one welcome this, but drill 1.6" hole we must as not all of us have the required welding skills needed. But I do have a friend......oh great...no you went and got me going on another project. "Mommy, when can I ride?"

[SBB]

That be a push rod for a small block Ford, first  thing I could find to show the outlet for the front pipe....Greg

Do you do the measurements?

 

[RK2000]

That there thing sticking in that pipe is a vortex collapser. It goes along with a bearing stretcher and Duck Butter.

[09S/E roadglide]

you guys up north have too much time for projects!!! we can ride almost all year here  ill talk with my guy at HD and see if they will give me any chit for the swap. i know from past experience that the fat cat is the way to go.

[oj greene]

Just my 2 cents worth but shouldn't 96" head pipes be showing up on the scrap heap at the dealerships & shops for next to free? isn't it the same pipe for all the FLH's and FLT's ?
OJ

[Fullsac Performance]

Many Thanks To Jim Kerr for paving the way on the CAT issue. After seeing Chip's Pic  I started thinking ...and a couple of phone calls to Chip, Brian Harry, and my tuner I came to the conclusion that I am leaving some ponies on the table. SO the pipe met the band saw today and HMMMM...The dyno will be the final judge here..Pic number one is looking int the "Collector" from the rear.  Feel free to agree, disagree or just not give a chit.... The next step is to remove the rest of this horsepower robber by taking my core bit cutting another 1.5 hole on the other side then knocking the rest out anyway that I can.. Then welding it back up. We cut it right at the weld  in the rear of the pipe so we can weld it right back and it will look "normal. " Thanks to Steve at Fullsac for this suggestion.Greg

Hey Greg, after you get that all hacked out of there, look to see if there is a lip at the front of the cat holding it in place before you weld it back up. I'm still curious as to whats holding the cat in place. Press fit?
Way to go! Chop it up!

Steve

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[RK2000]

Was there any chrome plating on the inside of the pipe? If so it makes me wonder how they kept from damaging the cat during the plating process.

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[JP]

Vance & Hines Head pipes are due out in January 09.  Cost ... only $520.00

My dealer told me today, the V/H head pipes will be out DEC 22. But we all know how that goes.

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[Hoist!]

All this and you're just down the road from D&D! You turned me on to them!

Hoist!

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[TN]

good job.

definitely the way to go. the cc material retains so much heat.

care to do mine?






TN

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All this and you're just down the road from D&D! You turned me on to them!

Hoist!

[Hoist!]

Yea, I'm 15 Min Away...Hell I just drive over and pick it up.. No worries Howie, Putting the Fat CAt on the Brandycandy next.  I wanted   to keep the stock look of the RG and I got no F**^king.... PATIENCE,  SO away we go, My goal is to make some respectable, half way quiet power....  

Well, ya did a hell of a job on it and great documentation too! If folks don't get it from this, they shouldn't be attempting it themselves! Way to go Greg!

Hoist!

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[Weasels]

Just my 2 cents worth but shouldn't 96" head pipes be showing up on the scrap heap at the dealerships & shops for next to free? isn't it the same pipe for all the FLH's and FLT's ?
OJ

I got mine for $100.00, seems a lot easier than removing the cat.

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[guppytrash]

Texas103

Nice work.  Your first picture is an eye opener...that's a big cat!
Looking forward to the dyno results.  I may become a whole lot more interested in finding a 96" non cat exhaust.\

guppytrash

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[guppytrash]

Texas103

I suffer from the same lack of patience.  However I might be able to wait to see what Steve comes up with.
I could not be happier with my $107 mufflers.

Either way can't wait to see your dyno results.  I am very interested to see 2" vs 1.75" also.


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[Highjagger]

What is the " of the stock cores ?

[guppytrash]

Stock cores don't really have diameter due to the fact that they are not straight thru exhaust. 

[Highjagger]

So the fullsac cores are wider than the stock-ones and straight open from  front to end , don`t you loose your back pressure then ?

[LarryB]

The fins that are cut into the cores cause turbulence, which cause the air/gas to slow to a controlled rate. this is calibrated by the number/ angle/ depth of cut on the fins.

[Highjagger]

Can I see this on a pic somewhere here ?
Or could somebody post a pic of those special looking fins ?
That would help me to understand ( perhaps ) 

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[Iglide]

Greg,
What size cores did you install for this tune?

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Greg,
What size cores did you install for this tune?

I went to the 2"

[Jbbrown73]

For the headpipe alone? No heat shields or clamps/brackets. etc? Holy crap!!! Drill away my friends!!! Or better yet, get the FatCat. Someone found them for just over $600!

Hoist!

I placed an order with www.hdpipes.com for a fatcat quiet baffle for $610 plus $25 shipping.  I swapped some email with the guy before I ordered and made sure he had them in stock and they were new, not blems or 2nds.  So, I will let you know when I get it.

[Jbbrown73]

Yep ..Friends are a good thing, For anyone that wants to do this, simply find a good muffler shop in your area, preferably one that does custom work, good street rod builder, custom bike builder etc;someone that has done some fab work  simply cut the back of the pipe as close as you can to the weld  with a bandsaw, so you will get a nice clean cut and  when it's welded back they will use part of that weld to weld over. We will be using a " MIG" welder to weld it back. Then use a chisel to go along the outside of the cat to break it loose from the can, then split it down the middle and start pulling chit out. A 'Zip Gun" AKA "Air Chisel" works super for this...  I just wasn't in the mood to wait for a '96 Pipe to show up...I think they call that IMPATIENCE......I want to see what it would do now....Greg

No muffler shop in IL will touch anything that has to do with cat removal on an auto, probably same for a bike.

[1abastarsmda]

WEll..... The results are in....and the winner is..... about 1.5  to 2.0 more HP , torque about the same, 

This was compared to a partially removed cc or stock with the entire cc still in there?

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[Spazz]

I just called V&H. The power duals are a 2 into1 into 2 like the H-D set up without a c/c and they are out very shortly if not now already. I think this is the way i am going to go along with monters ovals. I don't have to remove pipes,remove baffles, install baffles, remove c/c and then instal pipes. I have to get out my credit card, set it and forget it. No mess, fuss, dents, scratches, mistakes, bad back, new tools and wife asking me when i'm done because dinner is ready. I don't see the point in buying a cvo and then trying to cheap out or cheat on the pipes to save $1,000.00 more or less. I trust V&H as that is what i had on my RK. the finish to great and they sound like V&H. I also like the fit as i know they are designed for the 2009 without compromise. Unless someone can tell me that other than a few dollars and keeping the stock pipes look I think this is the best way to go. How many H-D's have stock pipes anyway?

[1abastarsmda]

I may even consider the V&H power duals at some point, but I will say this.  I did the Fullsac replacment (2.25") and the pipes on my last bike were V&H (long shot true duals on a Road King), and I like the sound of the Fullsac's much better.  Don't get me wrong...the V&H sounded great, but these Fullsac's are a much deeper sound and not annoying loud like the V&H were.  I had fully figured that I would not like the Fullsac's and would end up with a full V&H system, and I had several friends tell me that I was wasting time and money recoring my mufflers.  It's now unaminous that I and my several friends all like the sound of the Fullsac's much better.  Yes, I do like the looks of the stock mufflers better than what V&H has to offer, so I am more than happy to spend less money and end up with something that I like better.  Again, I may go with the Power Duals at some point, but first I'd like to wait and see what type of performance results people are getting out of them.  If it's nothing more, then I will probably pick up a cheap or free set of pipes off a 96" motor, rather than cutting mine apart to remove the rest of the cc.  I'm going to keep my credit card in my wallet until such time that I know a bit more about what route I actually want to take.  It's winter in these parts, so time is on my side right now.

[Spazz]

lets not talk winter, i'm here in Toronto where we have 2 seasons, winter and contruction. BTW, an honest answer please. Exactly how much money did you spend including shipping, tools,etc... and how long did it take? If you want to comare apples to apples then only compare that to slip-ons and not full systems.

[grit]

Although not asked ... I'm butting in here , I installed the 2" fullsac's for less than $130.00 total. Time? Probably less than 3 hours! That's removing, grinding, inserting, bolting and putting everything back back on. Seriously, it was enjoyable time spent and I retain the looks of the stock 4" mufflers with greatly improved sound. I'm still waiting to do the "96" headers which I'll most likely "hotjet" (coating) with my savings.

[grit]

  Guess I should have said "coated." We pilots get all excited when talking JET hot or hot JET. Didn't follow up with a checklist challenge before typing. GO GATORS!

[SPIDERMAN]

I don't have a dog in this fight as I don't own an 09, but if I did, I be buying a set of headpipes that do not contain the Catalytic Converter vice cutting out the one in the existing pipes. While it might cost some money, seems to me if we go to a SMOG inspection type situation as we have with automobiles, you'll be wishing you hadn't chopped out your CAT.

Just my $0.02

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[Spazz]

I would even give you $2.00 for that. Take a cheque?

[Highjagger]

This is not a bad thought

I don't have a dog in this fight as I don't own an 09, but if I did, I be buying a set of headpipes that do not contain the Catalytic Converter vice cutting out the one in the existing pipes. While it might cost some money, seems to me if we go to a SMOG inspection type situation as we have with automobiles, you'll be wishing you hadn't chopped out your CAT.

Just my $0.02

B B

[serghaven]

How loud are the 2.25 fullsac on the freeway? If I understand correctly they calm down a little for a nice ride.

[1abastarsmda]

Let me preface this answer with; I am in PA and the weather is pretty rough.  I've been riding with a full face helmet and that makes it difficult to hear much of anything, so they don't sound real loud to me at all.  At the same time, even sitting still and cranking the throttle didn't sound real loud until I had someone else hit the throttle and I stood behind the bike.  That made a huge difference.  Getting out on the highway, what I did hear from the pipes does seem to tone down significantly when you are cruising along at speed.  I had the opportunity to hear the pipes best when a technician took my bike for a ride after tuning it.  From the spectator point of view, they had a nice deep sound and there is no mistaking the sound of shifting gears and giving it the throttle.  It sounded real sweet, but it was not at all to the point that you wanted to plug your ears when the bike took off.  I don't know how else to describe it, other than I'm very pleased with the tone and volume.  I don't think I would want them any quieter, nor louder.  Of course, everyone is going to have their own opinion as to what sounds good or bad, but I don't think I have seen anyone on this forum yet to complain about the sound on these, in any of the sizes.  I would have to assume that this group of CVOers would be a very picky group, and the lack of any negative comments swayed me to give them a try.  I'm glad I did.

I had already told a few friends that my thought process was that I was only spending $143 on these and if I didn't like them, I figured that I could sell the mufflers with the Fullsac baffles already installed for the $143 I had into it to someone on the forum.  Then I would go and buy the aftermarket mufflers that I would have otherwise purchased and not have to lose any sleep over it at all.  Deep down, I thought that this is exactly what would happen.  I was pleasantly surprised once I fired them up.

Remember one thing...when you are sitting on the bike, you don't hear anywhere near as much sound as the folks behind you.  You've got to get behind the bike to really get a good listen to what they sound like.  These mufflers seem to do a particularly good job of muffling the sound to the point where you don't hear nearly as much from sitting on the bike.  I think they are real quiet from the driver's seat.  I was truly amazed at the difference in sound when I got behind the bike and really liked it when I heard it drive away.

[LarryB]

And that's all that matters

[09S/E roadglide]

  I think I'm with the host seems the fat cat ( with dummy pipe) makes the most sense to me. tru-dual sets sound great but there is a loss of some low end torque. ill just store the stock pipes in case there is ever emissions testing.there you have my 2 cents.

[Texas 103]

I think I'm with the host seems the fat cat ( with dummy pipe) makes the most sense to me. tru-dual sets sound great but there is a loss of some low end torque. ill just store the stock pipes in case there is ever emissions testing.there you have my 2 cents.

[serghaven]

Thanks 1abastarsmda. I do know that it was a vague question. However you answered it just like I hoped someone would. I'm ordering the 2.25.... 

[LarryB]

Hey Dave, for the longest time i have been referring to you as Bastard. now i look closer and see that is aba star mda. you're still a bastard cuz now i gotta by 2.25 fullsacs 

[1abastarsmda]

Oops.  Came from when I had a VStar

[1abastarsmda]

I guess the message before the oops never made it, so I'll try again...see what happens when I try to respond from the Blackberry.  Anyway, the 1abastarsmda is "wanna be a star some day".  Hey, back when I joined a VStar forum, I had to come up with a username and that one popped into my head...and I guess I just stuck with it.  You must not be good with specialty license plates either, huh?

I was trying to respond to this in the middle of a HOG meeting.  I just joined a 2nd chapter and this chapter is huge.  I actually thought there were more people at the meeting than there actually were last month.  Tonight, I found out there were 293 members at the meeting tonight.  I guess it just looked like more than that, but I think that's a pretty good turnout.  I am member #2574.  I think the other chapter I belong to only has a little over 200 members total and this one had more at the meeting than the entire membership where I've been going.  I don't know what that has to do with removing cc's from our bikes, but I just felt like mentioning it.

[LarryB]

Good size chapters. Im in 2 one here 130 members and I'm the Head Road captain, for 2 more weeks and then I step down as an officer, but, my wife becomes the new membership officer.
The other chapter is the Southern Nevada Chapter, Vegas baby, over 1400 members. Dinner rides are about 150.
I have been getting a little put off by HOG lately and am thinking about starting a RC

[1abastarsmda]

You live in Tennessee and you are a member of a chapter in Vegas?  I'm not even sure what question to follow that with.

[LarryB]

Why does that surprise you. as often as I go to vegas. I got riding partners out there when i go. and some of them come here. because I am such a joy to ride with.

[Spazz]

Other than the sound or octave being pleasant, I am more interested in the performance aspect of the cores, specifically the 2.25's. If i am going to install a high flow air filter and either a supersert or fuel pack or whatever, i don't want to waste those on pipes that breathe okay, just slightly better than stock but not as good as true aftermarket pipes. Even Steve at Fullsac doesn't give a good answer to this question. Can anyone tell me that the new cores will breathe at least as good as V&H or similar? My dealer is trying to talk me out of changing the cores and to get either slip ons or full systems (I really don't need to change the header pipes as we do not have c/c's in Canada). I wish someone could give me the definitive answer without telling me how nice they sound or that they are cheap to change or that they maintain the original looks of the bike. I am looking for performace answers please. Don't make me go to the Goldwing sight to ask (OMG did I say that?)

[dartman]

Spazz, I have dissected just about every brand of muffler ever made. V&H Bassani ,S&S, Cobra, Wild Pigs, Rush, Supertrapp, SE,Samson, ETC, IMHO other then Supertrapp With there Tuneable Discs, And the tuneable Bub Mufflers there is very little difference, In Muffler baffles, in fact some of the major Brand baffles will interchange, I am not a performance addict but many of my friends are, and from most dyno runs  Ive seen, it takes one awesome engine to support 2.25 baffles without a noticeable loss of low end torque, 3 additional HP at 5800 rpms is ok for bragging rights but not at the loss of 5 hp at 3000 rpms ,sometimes less is more.

[Highjagger]

I read that the SE-pipes allways had the best results in performance compaired to all others , isn`t that truth anymore ?
 And the FatCat should bring the best torque ( as good as the thunderheader which is louder ) .
If i would live on your side of the world ( without decibel limit ) , i would install one of these three options , depending on good looking .

[Spazz]

Dartman,

Are you saying the Fullsac's lose low end torque or power. Your answer confused me. Must be having a 70's moment.

Also, when you compared them, did you compare them to the Fullsacs? BTW, the pipes i am going to change to if I do at all are the monters ovals from V&H.
And Highbagger, the SE pipes NEVER had the best results when compared to aftermarket pipes, maybe they perform better against standard H-D pipes but that is where they end.

[Highjagger]

OK , then I read it wrong perhaps , ( I was astonished by reading that , but what the hell do i know , i am just learning ) THXS .

I found it : Here it is : reply 1 : http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=30233.msg500100#msg500100

A while back (Hot Bike) Baggers magazine tested the performance of several different slip-ons and the SE's came out on top in every category.

[Spazz]

ahhhhh, you meant Super Elite, not Screaming Eagle. And that magazine's opinion is not my bible, but I want to keep on track with the Fullsac cores and not other pipes. We can all show comparisons of many pipes from many sources and they might all have different results and opinions. I am trying to get the answer to the performance aspect of the Fullsac cores.

[1abastarsmda]

Spazz, I have dissected just about every brand of muffler ever made. V&H Bassani ,S&S, Cobra, Wild Pigs, Rush, Supertrapp, SE,Samson, ETC, IMHO other then Supertrapp With there Tuneable Discs, And the tuneable Bub Mufflers there is very little difference, In Muffler baffles, in fact some of the major Brand baffles will interchange, I am not a performance addict but many of my friends are, and from most dyno runs  Ive seen, it takes one awesome engine to support 2.25 baffles without a noticeable loss of low end torque, 3 additional HP at 5800 rpms is ok for bragging rights but not at the loss of 5 hp at 3000 rpms ,sometimes less is more.

So are you now telling me that I am losing low-end torque and hp by going with the 2.25" Fullsac?  It sounds like, from what you are saying, is that I should have gone with the 1.75" to get the max performance out of these new baffles, but of course that would also lower my decibel level at the same time.  I'm guessing that I'm cutting into my back pressure with the bigger baffles.  Am I getting a clear picture here?  If I'm reading into this correctly, I wish someone would have pointed this out to me before I purchased the 2.25".  I may have gone to the 2" to try to get in the middle and have the best of both worlds.

[1abastarsmda]

ahhhhh, you meant Super Elite, not Screaming Eagle. And that magazine's opinion is not my bible, but I want to keep on track with the Fullsac cores and not other pipes. We can all show comparisons of many pipes from many sources and they might all have different results and opinions. I am trying to get the answer to the performance aspect of the Fullsac cores.

He meant Supertrapp SE series pipes that are made for touring models...not Screamin' Eagle pipes.

[Spazz]

It appears you are the only one to explain this to me and I thank you for it. You have now pushed me to new pipes and not Fullsacs. Since you  tell it like it is, considering the Canadian bikes do NOT have a c/c and also that I have chosen V&H Monster Ovals as my muffler, would you change the headers to the V&H power duals or leave the stock H-D headers on?
Second quick question if you could please, I am changing to high flow air cleaner, but I still am unsure about Super SERT or V&H Fuel pack. Do you have an opinion on those 2 items as well?

[Highjagger]

Aha , SE means super elite ( in German - supertrapp - Kess tech ) .
 I had the opinion that SE means Screaming Eagle .
Learning every day . 

[HOGMIKE]

So are you now telling me that I am losing low-end torque and hp by going with the 2.25" Fullsac?  It sounds like, from what you are saying, is that I should have gone with the 1.75" to get the max performance out of these new baffles, but of course that would also lower my decibel level at the same time.  I'm guessing that I'm cutting into my back pressure with the bigger baffles.  Am I getting a clear picture here?  If I'm reading into this correctly, I wish someone would have pointed this out to me before I purchased the 2.25".  I may have gone to the 2" to try to get in the middle and have the best of both worlds.

Sounds to me like you are ready for a dyno session with different baffles/mufflers to get you the most HP/TQ. Remember, it's always a compromise with sound/power. Decide where you do most of your riding, is it at 2500 rpm? or 3500 rpm? Make your choice where, check out the forum here to see what combo's most are using: good starting point. Something like a Thunderheader makes good power, but, can you take the noise?? They don't call it "Thunder" header for fun!
If you were closer here, you could ride 2 of my bikes to compare the 2" and the 1 3/4".  Both exhausts are similar in sound with the 2" being a little louder on the throttle.
Yes, my 2cents!

[GregKhougaz]

$.02 more:  Maybe I can articulate this in a different way.  Hogmike is correct!  First, read here:  http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=27693.0 to see what results guys are getting with different set ups.  Don't confuse peak hp with usable power!  The 110" is a torque maker (not really monster) and certainly not a high revving hp maker.  Note that HD has always promoted torque over HP as that is what you really use for most street applications. 

First question, where do you want your power?  Ask this because it is very difficult to obtain hight peak hp and good torque over the lower and mid range.  For me, a street rider, I want gobs of low end with good mid range power extended as high as possible.  That does not ususally equate to peak hp.  It's not the exhaust alone, it's the system.  Does the breather work with the throttle body, cam, compression, porting, exhaust and finally back pressure.  On the stock 110, for example, true duals do not have enough back pressure and you'll loose torque (power) all other things being equal.  You'd have to change cams and pistons to take real advantage of the loss of back pressure.

Dartman is also correct, a couple of peak hp does nothing to help street riders unless you keep your motor at that RPM all the time!  Look at the dyno results in the thread above and then decide what system (breather, ecm adjustment, exhaust) you want to go with.  You want power over the band, not just peak.  Hope this helps. 

[Spazz]

I Guess our bikes are different here in Canada. The CVO brochure for us claims the SEUC4 had 113 lbs. torque as stock. Maybe the lack of a c/c is the reason for the huge difference. You can see the results by goingt to; www.harleydavidson.ca  (canadian site)

[dartman]

The Brochure HP is measured at the crank on a test stand, Dyno HP is measured at the rear wheel, there is a hugh variable between the raw HP and the actual useable Hp that reaches the street.

[dartman]

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Aha , SE means super elite ( in German - supertrapp - Kess tech ) .
 I had the opinion that SE means Screaming Eagle .
Learning every day . 

You were pretty much correct, the Super Elite 65115 mufflers that Supertrapp now Retails is exactly the same 65115-98b off road muffler that they produced for the MoCo until they discontinued sales in 07 because of EPA mandates, other then the logo change from Screamin Eagle to Supertrapp they are exactly the same muffler with the same baffles.

[Highjagger]

Where are the pics from " Texas " ?
Are they gone ?
Why ?

[1abastarsmda]

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Aha , SE means super elite ( in German - supertrapp - Kess tech ) .
 I had the opinion that SE means Screaming Eagle .
Learning every day . 

And I thought super elite was what Screamin Eagle owners were.  Thus, Screamin Eagle = Super Elite...which makes everyone correct.  Just my warped reasoning 

[Admiral]

Sure seems a lot easier to get an '09 96" CC free headpipe w/good slipons, and keep your stock CVO Exhaust system intact for the future, especially since a lot of you guys don't seem to mind trading your bikes.

Or get a FatCat of course!

Hoist!

Do you mean that the 09 96ci doesn't have the cc in them?

[1abastarsmda]

That would be correct. Only the 110's have the cc.

[HOGMIKE]

Do you mean that the 09 96ci doesn't have the cc in them?

Be aware, the '09 96ci California bikes have the cc in them. The 110 bikes also have them. If you are looking for a non-cc header, look to the 49 state 96ci models.

[Admiral]

Be aware, the '09 96ci California bikes have the cc in them. The 110 bikes also have them. If you are looking for a non-cc header, look to the 49 state 96ci models.

So I can put 09 96ci headers from an 09 UC (bought in Texas) on my 09 SEUC and the headers will be the same shape and basically bolt on without any problems and thereby eliminate the CC.

I have a good friend that just bought one and said as soon as RH comes out with new headers he is switching and will give me his for free.

 

[09S/E roadglide]

Vance and Hines just came out with a true dual header and a crossover header looks like retail is about $5oo. thats what the HD dealer was selling them for. I think they look great but expensive.

[HOGMIKE]

So I can put 09 96ci headers from an 09 UC (bought in Texas) on my 09 SEUC and the headers will be the same shape and basically bolt on without any problems and thereby eliminate the CC.

I have a good friend that just bought one and said as soon as RH comes out with new headers he is switching and will give me his for free.

 

From what we've seen...........correct. Brackets and mounting points on the ex. system are common to all '09 baggers. Totally different from '08 and previous years. I hope this helps.

[guppytrash]

Texas103

What happened to all the pictures?

I am getting impatient waiting for 96" take offs.  Was considering your cut and re weld technique.  Just wondering what happened to the pics.

guppytrash