And... I will add that it was the exact same TB and the exact same injectors. I also talked to the owner and feel it was the tuner. At least you, twolanerider, know its an opinion, but it is solid enough for ME to go by AND enough for me to state possible issues for other members to review.
And... it IS rare for me to condemn a product completely, too. I'm NOT Steve... HAHA!
. I feel there IS more than one way to do things at times. But, with a few things Brian told me, like the maps installed ARE very rich to start out, on purpose, amongst others, makes me wonder. Why wonder at all? Other solutions fill the bill for right now. Do I think a true self tuner COULD be had? Yup! Just ain't there..... yet.
I just was just trying to point out the EASIEST solution usually isn't the BEST solution..... and for those that read this thread to THINK first.
Hmmmm.... I guess that I AM a shill.... for actual tuning. So, I am NOT without an agenda here. Nor, will I be. I believe in objective terms like you guys do. I cannot hold up my end of the EMS argument with documented failure reports. OK, fine. But.... I would really LIKE to put up a properly tuned bike against a DIYer TTS tune. Same bike. No BS there... what some call a 'good running bike' won't be to others.
I think we are done with this.
Tuning IS fun! I'm going to work on start up settings on a 120r right now. I'm thinking some roughness on whacking the throttle, at idle, is because I am giving the bike too much fuel with the AE table. I get to play with stuff when time permits.
Oh, and for Porthole. I KNOW Steve Cole, Doc, Lonewolf, Jason from C&S, etc. Call any of those guys and ask about me a little. I AM a dumbass for sure, but I am a meticulous kind of guy, to a fault probably. I DO listen and change my mind when facts warrant such. And.... I have over $22k in tuning crap to LEARN all I can about things.... more so than tune bikes for folks. I question everything. I accept nothing as 'fact'. But... in this instance there was enough uncertainty to turn me off of this particular product. We're good, fellas.