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So much talk about tuning.A one time tune or 50 tunes is only good for that< Time Frame>. Changes; in temp.engine or atmosphere,atmospheric pressure,humidity,oxygen level,octane level,1 or 2 riders and on and on!!!!!!!! The point is, why set up a bike for a changing world. Auto engine management system or ems. is the only way............  Tuning for one period of time is for drag strip.

[HOGMIKE]

 
JMHO, of course!

 

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Of course ??

[grc]

I see the troll is back.  Your post shows you have no idea how the stock Delphi system on your bike works; perhaps you should look into a course at your local community college or trade school.

Jerry

[Rio]

So much talk about tuning.A one time tune or 50 tunes is only good for that< Time Frame>. Changes; in temp.engine or atmosphere,atmospheric pressure,humidity,oxygen level,octane level,1 or 2 riders and on and on!!!!!!!! The point is, why set up a bike for a changing world. Auto engine management system or ems. is the only way............  Tuning for one period of time is for drag strip.

I always thought there was a 5% adjustment built in?  But maybe the drag strip starts at 10,000 ft above sea level ?

[Twolanerider]

You guys could actually understand that well enough to answer.....  ?

[HOGMIKE]

I see the troll is back.  Your post shows you have no idea how the stock Delphi system on your bike works; perhaps you should look into a course at your local community college or trade school.

Jerry

 
There ya go!

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Oh Jerry Jerry Jerry . You keep showing your backside again!!!!!!!!!!! Im talking about ems............So you do not have to retune your bike. EMS EMS EMS

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Stock ecm on a Harley do a great job on engine safe quards,but do a poor job on performance. That problem started the after market tuners. The ems uses all of the good things provided by the stock ecm.& fixs most all of the performance problems.And will auto updated the fuel&advance as you add your performance parts : exhaust, cams, pistons what ever.They are able to do this by using a wide band O2 sensors& years of work.......... I hope that helps Jerry

[Twolanerider]

Oh Jerry Jerry Jerry . You keep showing your backside again!!!!!!!!!!! Im talking about ems............So you do not have to retune your bike. EMS EMS EMS

EMS is nothing new to this community.  In fact some of us here were early adopters and supporters.  Trouble is the product wasn't kept current by Revolution Performance as it was never made available past the 2011 models and now apparently is available at all (at least for awhile) as the company has hardware issues keeping them from doing the work necessary with the ECMs that are sent to them.  An otherwise very good and promising product may become yet another orphaned piece in the aftermarket.

If you'd like to review the curve that you're behind here is an early, but by no means the earliest, thread on use and installation of an EMS kit that I did:

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=58189.0

That install thread and discussion is year and a half old.  So not sure what's to gain right now by throwing the poms poms when the product is moderately well known but is now riding the bench due to problems with the manufacturer.  For a thread from well before the install thread that is a very early discussion of the product check here:

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=53222.0

Once again you're just well behind the curve on this one.

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revolution will be back on april 30.Behind what?

[Buckeye_Tuning]

I have personally see a couple engines ruined by the EMS system.  Auto tuning my ass.

Wonder why Brian left the company?  Because there just is TOO much BS comes out of Rev Performance.  THATS why!

[porthole]

I have personally see a couple engines ruined by the EMS system. 

How?

[Buckeye_Tuning]

The ECM simply adjusted so rich that it washed cylinders down to the point any lubrication was non existent.  This IS especially important when someone is breaking in a new top end.  While the EMS is 'learning', it runs very rich.  By the time it MAY learn a little... cylinders will be toasted.

Since NO ONE can see, nor adjust an EMS, I think I will pass, and...  I recommend this passing on EMS to everybody.  Rev Perf seems to have quit R&D on this AND Brian Nallin has left Rev Perf, so what does THAT say?  Anybody remember Brian and Nikasil?

[Midnight Rider]

revolution will be back on april 30.Behind what?

Exactly what don't you understand about the statement that the EMS system is not available for bikes later than 2011?  And again, it is obvious from your first post that you really have no clue how your bike actually works with regards to the ECM.  So if you seriously don't understand, then do some reading, or listen to those who actually DO know what they are talking about.  If you're just stirring up chit, do it somewhere else.  Or keep it up and see what happens on a PRIVATELY OWNED site.