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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2010, 06:30:41 AM »

Hey people, I am attaching my dyno sheet that goes with the below upgrades. I was just told in another forum I should be up around the 110/120 readings instead of what this shows. Do you all agree with that? Gary

22502-07 110 Forged piston kit
25474-06 SE 258 CAM Kit
11907 Gasket kit
16801-07A Cylinder head gaskets
17997-99A Quick install Pushro
16719-99B Rocker housing gaskets
25244-99A Cam cover gasket
17386-99A Rocker cover gasket

I had already added the following:
Rinehart slip-ons
29490-09 Stage 1 kit
32109-08A  SE PRO TUNER
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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2010, 09:17:54 AM »

With a good tune there are 110" motors getting that and better with just a A/C and header gutted, with slip ons.   Doc.   Oh Ya and running cooler also. May what to see what the dealer can do for you.
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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2010, 09:42:38 AM »

I say this and I hope you don't take it personally but the work done seems to be a mismatch of parts.
The pushrods they used are the older aluminum parts that hit often times in the tubes, the cam not appropriate for a stock 110 even with added compression IMHO, plus if they used quick install pushrods why did they pull the heads and charge you that labor and gaskets, that is not needed.

Rather than focus on peak numbers what is it you wanted to accomplish by changing cams? Tell us your goal and then maybe we can look at a bailout plan.
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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2010, 10:31:44 AM »

dont you have to pull the heads and jugs to change the pistons  :nixweiss:
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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2010, 10:41:31 AM »

Woops I apologize, yes absolutely.
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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2010, 01:39:30 PM »

I say this and I hope you don't take it personally but the work done seems to be a mismatch of parts.
The pushrods they used are the older aluminum parts that hit often times in the tubes, the cam not appropriate for a stock 110 even with added compression IMHO, plus if they used quick install pushrods why did they pull the heads and charge you that labor and gaskets, that is not needed.

Rather than focus on peak numbers what is it you wanted to accomplish by changing cams? Tell us your goal and then maybe we can look at a bailout plan.
Good information. I was trying to get a little boost in the HP and torque as well as I heard it would run a little cooler. It really runs great! I spoke to the dealership mechanices and they indicated in order for me to go any further with the numebrs I would need to change the exhaust all the way or make other mods. They questioned what the engine mods were that are getting those 110/120 ratings. I could not answer. Soooo. I am not displeased, I just want to make sure I am getting my bang for the buck (already spent). I also don't want it sooo hot that I need to rebuild it every year. Thanks all.....Gary
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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2010, 02:02:21 PM »

Hogvet,

We normally see around 115 ftlbs (3000-3500 rpm) and 95hp (above 4500rpm) for a stage 1 110ci CVO Touring with free flowing slipons.
The dynosheet you posted, does not show a realy nice flat afr. It goes leaner around 5500 and 6000rpm, which normally is not hard to get correct.
Wonder how well that efi was tuned..... Did they use the correct basemap? Did they touch the ignition tables, a bike with SE258 needs completely different ignition timing compared to one with SE255.
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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2010, 02:15:33 PM »

Hogvet,

We normally see around 115 ftlbs (3000-3500 rpm) and 95hp (above 4500rpm) for a stage 1 110ci CVO Touring with free flowing slipons.
The dynosheet you posted, does not show a realy nice flat afr. It goes leaner around 5500 and 6000rpm, which normally is not hard to get correct.
Wonder how well that efi was tuned..... Did they use the correct basemap? Did they touch the ignition tables, a bike with SE258 needs completely different ignition timing compared to one with SE255.
Man that is goooood feedback. I can use that. Thanks.....Gary
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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2010, 04:00:49 PM »

With my 110 with RTDs, Stage I, and SERT, I got 91 HP & 110 ft-lb torque.  I don't use the max, my area of use is usually 2000 - 2600 RPM.  That results in 40-42 mpg and plenty of power to ride 2-up over the mountains in East TN.
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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2010, 04:09:07 PM »

With my 110 with RTDs, Stage I, and SERT, I got 91 HP & 110 ft-lb torque.  I don't use the max, my area of use is usually 2000 - 2600 RPM.  That results in 40-42 mpg and plenty of power to ride 2-up over the mountains in East TN.
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Forgive my ignorance but what is SERT(Screamin' Eagle Race Tuner)? RTD(Rinehart True Duals)? This helps. I am learning a lot from these posts. Thanx....Gary
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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2010, 04:15:02 PM »

Forgive my ignorance but what is SERT(Screamin' Eagle Race Tuner)? RTD(Rinehart True Duals)? This helps. I am learning a lot from these posts. Thanx....Gary
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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2010, 06:45:11 PM »

Correct :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2010, 07:00:54 PM »

Correct :2vrolijk_21:

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This one isn't in the list:   :nixweiss:

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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2010, 07:06:23 PM »

This one isn't in the list:   :nixweiss:

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Hmmmm. Gary is a big dumb dik head? ??? :o
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Re: Local 110 build
« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2010, 07:08:41 PM »

Hmmmm. Gary is a big dumb dik head? ??? :o


Well..... I was thinking "doo doo" but yours does fit ::) .
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