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[jsfenster110]

I am wanting to go 117 in near future but need to spread the costs.  I have the TTS 100 cams now and they are fantastic.  Thinking 585s as they will give me more in my 110 and are expandable to 117.

Any other cam to consider for one who likes 2,200-5,500? 

The 100s rev quickly.  How does one compare ramp up rates in different cams?  I am not concerned about peak numbers.

Thanks

[Durwood]

I am wanting to go 117 in near future but need to spread the costs.  I have the TTS 100 cams now and they are fantastic.  Thinking 585s as they will give me more in my 110 and are expandable to 117.

Any other cam to consider for one who likes 2,200-5,500? 

The 100s rev quickly.  How does one compare ramp up rates in different cams?  I am not concerned about peak numbers.

Thanks

Cycle Rama 575 is my go to cam for a CVO. You will probably get many suggestions, this is just mine.

The customer wanted to quiet the valve train, so we pulled the heads, replaced the stock valve springs and while it was down we zero decked it and added a .030 Cometic head gasket set. Front piston was .010" in the hole and the rear was .009".

Here's the graph, we went with Fullsac mufflers with 1.75" baffles for quietness. A set of 2" cores would have pushed it above 120 torque and around 105hp. In a 117 with the compression set between 10-10.2:1 it would only get better and you can ride it anywhere with power on demand.

Added: This valve train is silent, even at temp.

[jsfenster110]

That is beautiful graph. The CR will grow with me to 117i am assuming? 

Any idea what the hp/tq would look like?

Thank you!

[Durwood]

That is beautiful graph. The CR will grow with me to 117i am assuming? 

Any idea what the hp/tq would look like?

Thank you!

I am not a speculator of numbers, but yes, the Cycle Rama 575 will grow, I have ran it @ 10.5:1 with great results in 107" builds but the tune has to be spot on.

[Durwood]

That is beautiful graph. The CR will grow with me to 117i am assuming? 

Any idea what the hp/tq would look like?

Thank you!

You're welcome and thanks for the kind words.

I don't know exactly what you are looking for, but I can tell you this "Stage 2+" 110 is a REALLY fun ride, and it's hard to stay in the seat with all that early torque. Something you might keep in mind before you buy the 117" kit.

[Mr D]

You're welcome and thanks for the kind words.

I don't know exactly what you are looking for, but I can tell you this "Stage 2+" 110 is a REALLY fun ride, and it's hard to stay in the seat with all that early torque. Something you might keep in mind before you buy the 117" kit.

Daren,

Post your 113 build with Larry's heads running the CR 575.... hold on tight with that one 

[Durwood]

Daren,

Post your 113 build with Larry's heads running the CR 575.... hold on tight with that one 

Thanks Mr. D
Here's a link to the thread.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=109125.0

[HD Street Performance]

Consider the motor has gone up in size considerably.
The TTS 100 was a fine torquer cam for the 110, 9.3:1 compression, all done at 4500 or 5k in a 103. Now at 117 a 240 degree cam is what will get it to 5K or a little better with stock heads with good low end torque, compression adjusted accordingly, and no pms.
The TTS 100 is too short for the 117 which stock has over 10:1 compression. PMS will ensue.
The S&S 585 is a move the wrong way with its added exhaust duration, still a hot rod cam in a 117"
You may be surprised how sweet a Tman 600sm works in that 117 motor without head work. Don't let the lift fool you this is a short cam but just right.
I would not mess with the heads unless it is just a blueprint to install better guides, springs, seals and a serdi valve job.

[jsfenster110]

Will the tman 600 work in the 110 also?  Stock compression for now?
This is a two step process.

[HD Street Performance]

Yes, has been documented on Fulsacs site

[jsfenster110]

Awesome and thank you.

[Mr D]

Will the tman 600 work in the 110 also?  Stock compression for now?
This is a two step process.

Don,

600sm work in a wet head 103 also or another grind suggested ?

[DanG]

That's my CVO110 that Daren was referring to that I wanted to quiet down the top end noise. At 17k miles, I found the lifters were getting ready to spread some metal around so Daren came up with a recipe that has virtually eliminated the valve train noise and hopefully also enhances the longevity of the engine. The bike runs great and I'm very happy with it and Daren's work.

[HD Street Performance]

Don,

600sm work in a wet head 103 also or another grind suggested ?

Work, yes. But everyone wants a different result. This poster stated he was not chasing numbers.

[jsfenster110]

HD Street,

Chasing quality numbers yes.  I think I saw where Steve at Fullsac made 126 foot pounds with the T man 600s.  There are so many cams that are close in specs to the average person in their grinds.

That is why I ask people like yourself which one really works.  I have replaced the lifters and pushrods and it has been recommended to replace the chain tensioner and the oil valve in the cam plate?  Better return flow?  I know some have replaced the entire cam/oil plate.