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[MWalton]

I bought this bike used in January. The GPS mount was there, but no GPS.
I bought a used Garmin 660 off of eBay. It works but I can't seem to figure out how to make the GPs come through the speakers.
Anyone know any tricks or tips for the technically unsavy?

[Jswerve]

I bought this bike sued in January. The GPS mount was there, but no GPS.
I bought a used Garmin 660 off of eBay. It works but I can't seem to figure out how to make the GPs come through the speakers.
Anyone know any tricks or tips for the technically unsavy?

I believe you have to have a cord plugged into the 3.5mm jack on the radio and the radio has to be in AUX mode.

[phato1]

I never use the spoken commands on my HD Zumo 660, as they drive me nuts.... But having said that two things come to mind regarding your question. Is the Garmin volume enabled? - As I said I MUTE mine because with it muted it doesn't interrupt the stereo. If the audio in enabled is the Garmin volume turned up?
Ok three things is the unit you have a Harley branded Garmin (roadtech) Zumo?? Maybe the pin out on the "regular" Garmin 660 are different from the HD branded one?  Perhaps some one more knowledgeable about the Garmin can definitively say whether the "regular" Garmin and the HD branded work the same with the HD mount.

[phato1]

I believe you have to have a cord plugged into the 3.5mm jack on the radio and the radio has to be in AUX mode.

Another good point are you using the NIM and the fairing mount from HD?

My 11.5 CUSE6 has the HD fairing mount so there's no need for any extra umbilicals.

[Jswerve]

Another good point are you using the NIM and the fairing mount from HD?

My 11.5 CUSE6 has the HD fairing mount so there's no need for any extra umbilicals.

Good point 

[OBB]

That speaker switch on your dash is what controls that. If you have your owner's manual, it'll tell you how to set it up. I had the same bike so you should have everything you need. Another thing is once the GPS is giving directions, push the volume control up as it may be down the whole way. That volume switch controls all volumes separately while they're in use.

[Delta]

+1 Make sure the speaker switch is in the proper position. The red light on the switch will be on.

[Para Bellum]

On the '11 SERGU, the version of the GPS that comes with the bike is a Zumo Road Trek, not a Garmin 660.  The bike is equipped with the NIM (Navigation Interface Module), so you don't need to plug a separate cord from the GPS to the AUX input.  I have heard the 660 does not work properly when plugged into the system on our '11 SERGUs, but I can't verify that.  Iron Cross Audio or Jim Biss (vendors on here) might be able to confirm this.

The troubleshooting instructions below are based on using the Zumo.

1. Ensure the GPS is giving spoken directions: Remove it from the mount and then turn it on.  On the screen of the GPS, press menu, then volume, and make sure the volume is at 80% or more and not muted.  Select a destination, press "Go," and see if it gives you spoken directions.  If it does, turn it off and put it in the bike mount.

2.  Turn on the ignition switch.  If you can hear the radio through your speakers, then your speaker switch is in the correct position.  If you hear it, select a destination on the GPS, press "Go," and see if it gives you spoken directions.

If not, the problem is:
a) the Garmin doesn't work with this setup;
b) the Garmin to mount connection;
c) wiring from mount to NIM;
d) the NIM;
e) the NIM connection to the Harmon Kardon unit;
f) the input to the HK unit.

I hope this gets it working, or at least helps narrow it down.

[JCZ]

You might also try cleaning the contacts on the mount and on the back of the gps with alcohol and a Q tip.

[MWalton]

Thanks for all the help folks. It looks like miserable weather here in Northern Ontario for the next week, so I may not be able to check it out for a while. When I do, I'll let all you know how it went.

[Para Bellum]

The troubleshooting procedures from these posts can be done without taking the bike out.

[MWalton]

OK, thanks.
I'm still not sure I'll be at the storage garage until it's nicer out.
Question,
Does it come through the speakers by being louder than the music, or does it make the music mute momentarily while it gives the commands?

[Para Bellum]

Does it come through the speakers by being louder than the music, or does it make the music mute momentarily while it gives the commands?

It mutes the music.  That can be annoying when you know where to turn and it blanks out your favorite part of the song.   

[MWalton]

That's true, but it seems to me making the right turn would be the most important thing.

[Copyless]

I bought this bike used in January. The GPS mount was there, but no GPS.
I bought a used Garmin 660 off of eBay. It works but I can't seem to figure out how to make the GPs come through the speakers.
Anyone know any tricks or tips for the technically unsavy?

I did not read the replies, I only skimmed them, so it may have been mentioned.

First, you mention getting the 660 off of eBay. I am thinking that you purchased a Zumo 660 not a RoadTech Zumo 660, is this correct? If it is a Zumo 660, then forget the spoken directions, you are not getting them. I mean you can get them, but I don't think you want to, to get spoken directions with the Zumo 660, you will have to use a 3.5mm aux connector and plug the unit in the radio and select AUX as the source, which means the only source of sound would be the sound coming from the Zumo itself.

Now if it is indeed a RoadTech Zumo 660, then you need to set a destination on the unit and go for a short ride, at the first turn, if you have not heard the directions or have not had the radio cut out for a few seconds, then you have a problem with the NIM, research the NIM problem, as in, is it actually there, is there power, etc., now if during the short ride the radio does cut out, then, when the radio first cuts out, hit the volume up on the handlebar controls and this will raise the volume on the NIM input.

I am betting you don't have the correct GPS unit, I spoke with Garmin about this exact problem 6 years or so ago, when they first badged the 660/665 units for HD, because I thought at that time it was a mistake to call the HD units RT Zumo 660 or RT Zumo 665 vs. the Zumo 660 or Zumo 665, instead of changing the number for the HD units to (who cares what) something like 680/685 or 760/765 it doesn't matter as long as the numbers are changed, normal joes can tell the difference. The problem, as I said to them back then, would be and has been, that most people would see no difference in the different units, because they would only see a Zumo 660/665, not that there is actually a Zumo 660/665 and a RT Zumo 660/665. Adding the RoadTech name to the unit is fine, but not really noticed like the number change would be, so both should have been done, the HD badged units should have been the RT Zumo 680/685.

[MWalton]

Well I definately don't have the Road Tech. I thought a 660 Zumo was the same unit. So I bought one used instead of $900 here in Canada for a Road Tech.
That said, it boots up and shows the directions on the screen. I assume you're positive that it won't match up to the HD chrome bracket and come out the speakers?

Will it give commands through it's own speaker when installed on the bike?
How about blue tooth directions through a bluetooth headset?

[SmileMaker]

Use the aux port on your radio with it set to aux. if you use a sd card with mp3's in the 660 and the MP3 player on the 660 you can play music through the speakers and get directions. The song will pause when directions are given .

[Para Bellum]

I assume you're positive that it won't match up to the HD chrome bracket and come out the speakers?  Since I don't have that one, I'm not sure what will happen...but some the other replies say it won't.

Will it give commands through it's own speaker when installed on the bike? Uh...not sure.  My Road Trek 660 uses its own speaker when it's in my hand or in the car mount, but normally it doesn't when it's in the bike mount.  The only time it does when it's in the bike mount is if I turn it on when it's out of the mount, then put it in the mount.  BTW: Have to make sure the volume is turned up and not muted, but if it uses its own speaker, you should have heard it say something when you booted it up and it showed directions on the screen.

How about blue tooth directions through a bluetooth headset?  Garmin says yours has bluetooth, so it seems likely.

Like SmileMaker said, you can use the aux port on the bike's head unit to feed it through the bike speakers, but then you can't use the bike's AM/FM/XM/Ipod/CD to hear music.

[Copyless]

Well I definately don't have the Road Tech. I thought a 660 Zumo was the same unit. So I bought one used instead of $900 here in Canada for a Road Tech.
That said, it boots up and shows the directions on the screen. I assume you're positive that it won't match up to the HD chrome bracket and come out the speakers?

Will it give commands through it's own speaker when installed on the bike?
How about blue tooth directions through a bluetooth headset?

Many people have thought the exact same thing, but they are not the same in firmware, but everything else is.

It will give directions through it's own speaker, but I don't think you can hear that riding down the road, the Bluetooth part I have never tried, because I was one of the first set of people to have the NIM/iPod interface, when it didn't work, because they had the directions written wrong, spent a few days getting that worked out and HD fixed the directions with the info we came up with, anyway, I have always had the NIM so I never tried the Bluetooth other than for phone calls.

It will match up to any of the HD products for the RT Zumo's, it is the exact same housing as the RT's, all the 660 and 665 are the exact same housing and connections, whether it is the Zumo660/665 or the RT Zumo 660/665, the difference is the firmware that the units use, this is the reason it will not work with the NIM. It will fit any dash, handlebar mount/charger anything, it just will not cut any audio sources going to the radio with the NIM, other than it's own, when connected through the AUX input and playing music stored on it.

I am positive that it will not cut audio sources and send directions through the speakers, but as I stated the first time, you can use a 3.5mm AUX cord and connect it to the radio, this will give directions through the speakers, but the only audio you will have this way, is the audio of the Zumo, so you can put songs on a SD card and play them from the Zumo and then it will cut it's music and give the directions through the speakers when they are given.

[MWalton]

Thanks for all the info.
THe one thing that I did consider that isn't written here, is to use the bikes XM or FM until I feel the need to really listen to the GPS. I can just toggle the audio over to the aux input until I realise it's a long way to the next turn.
THen switch back.

[Funhog]

So I’ll try to make this short but informative.
Music (iPod,AM/FM,XM) was cutting out when RT Zumo 660 was giving directions but couldn’t be heard thru the speakers until trouble shooting.  I needed the counsel speaker switch down “With the red light on” Now it’s working perfectly 👌 Thanks
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