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The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« on: July 27, 2010, 03:05:07 PM »

I'm glad I bought My 2010 Spicey Rum, I don't like any of the new colors or prices for two more speakers.
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2010, 03:09:33 PM »

Welcome to the site.... When you get a chance you should go to this board - New Member Introduction and start a thread to introduce yourself.

Glad you're happy w/your bike (as I am w/mine) but I can't say I don't like the new colors... I think they did good!!! If I were looking to get a new bike I definitely would be happy with this years colors. :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2010, 04:30:28 PM »

I don't judge colors from photographs, but most look quite stunning in person and sunlight. That being said, I am so glad I jumped on the Tequila Sunrise when I did.
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2010, 04:32:40 PM »

The two extra speakers are not a must, but the IPOD setup looks nice...and it implies it can be controlled from the handlebars controls--that would be really nice....but $1500 more for that?????  And a cool looking gas gauge--that won't be accurate anyway....
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2010, 04:36:54 PM »

The two extra speakers are not a must, but the IPOD setup looks nice...and it implies it can be controlled from the handlebars controls--that would be really nice....but $1500 more for that?????  And a cool looking gas gauge--that won't be accurate anyway....

Check the Part Catalog on line under new parts.. the Ipod Interrface is $400
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2010, 04:37:46 PM »

Love the new stereo, love the new tank--looks like a whole new bike with that tank. Add the LED headlight and you have a good touring machine. imho
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2010, 04:38:43 PM »

I'd like to have the I-Pod connection, but for $400 I'll pass.
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2010, 04:45:09 PM »

But at a 20% off dealer it would only be $320.......still a lot......but if you add the IPOD cable to the radio that's $100, then a riders claw for another $100...so for another $120 you can leave it in your waterproof saddlebag and get handlebar controls.
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2010, 04:49:15 PM »

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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2010, 04:56:40 PM »

I know.....but I am not coming up with a price for the cable by searching on the part number that they listed....
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2010, 06:08:47 PM »

Love the paint scheme on the Black / Orange... Contemplating what new tins or a new paint job would cost...
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2010, 07:22:14 PM »

...like the 19" front & looking fwd to seeing the diamond black in the sun.
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2010, 08:13:18 PM »

I'm glad I bought My 2010 Spicey Rum, I don't like any of the new colors or prices for two more speakers.
I agree, what is the price can't get on the site?
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2010, 09:04:47 PM »

The New Price For The 2011 is $1,500.00 more than 2010
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2010, 09:26:03 PM »

The New Price For The 2011 is $1,500.00 more than 2010
And for that you get lowers, ipod in the saddlebag, 2 additional speakers, and probably a few other little things we can't see from the info we have. Aren't the lowers worth about $1,500?
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2010, 09:29:10 PM »

With the extreme popularity of the CVO Street Glides, I'm not surprised with the price increase. Only $500 on the Ultra Electra Glide.
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2010, 09:31:50 PM »

And for that you get lowers, ipod in the saddlebag, 2 additional speakers, and probably a few other little things we can't see from the info we have. Aren't the lowers worth about $1,500?
I think the new paint schemes, tank console change and the lowers are well worth the 1500... :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2010, 09:34:13 PM »

I'm glad I bought My 2010 Spicey Rum, I don't like any of the new colors or prices for two more speakers.




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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2010, 05:33:10 PM »

19" Front Wheel
100 watts per channel Amp
IPod
IPod control Module
Lowers
4 + 2 in the face speakers
Colour matched Inner Fairing
Unique Paint wheel and engine colour combo's
Flush Mount gas door/LED gauge and low profile console
Probably a better seat

Smoken deal for $1500
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2010, 08:36:19 PM »

19" Front Wheel
100 watts per channel Amp
IPod
IPod control Module
Lowers
4 + 2 in the face speakers
Colour matched Inner Fairing
Unique Paint wheel and engine colour combo's
Flush Mount gas door/LED gauge and low profile console
Probably a better seat

Smoken deal for $1500

X2, and the colrs are totally bitchin.
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2010, 08:37:58 PM »

19" Front Wheel
100 watts per channel Amp
IPod
IPod control Module
Lowers
4 + 2 in the face speakers
Colour matched Inner Fairing
Unique Paint wheel and engine colour combo's
Flush Mount gas door/LED gauge and low profile console
Probably a better seat

Smoken deal for $1500

Unless you have a '10 that you want to trade in...then I think it would be a few thousand loss on the trade..
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2010, 08:43:51 PM »

I think it's a great deal for all that for a 1500.00 add on... You couldn't do all that if you tried for anwhere close..   Ya know, sometimes change can be a good thing,  Just because one doesn't have it, and I don't, doesn't make it bad or not worth it. Let someone here try and and see what it costs and is it done as well and was it worth the effort?   Just sayin' ::)
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2010, 08:46:03 PM »

I think it's a great deal for all that for a 1500.00 add on... You couln't do all that if you tried for anwhere close..   Ya know, sometimes change can eb a good thing,  Just because one doen't have it, and I don't, doesn't make it bad or not worth it. Let someone here try and and see what it costs and is it done as well and was it worth the effort?   Just sayin' ::)

No question there..the mods are worth more than the price increase..I'm just sayin if you have a '10 and want to trade up it will cost you considerably more.
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2010, 09:37:34 PM »

I'm just sayin if you have a '10 and want to trade up it will cost you considerably more.

Yup ... I have a (fair) number in my head for the diff ... if it works out I'll have an Autumn Haze.
If not ... certainly no loss as mine is 90% of the '11 already (and 120% in performance - but I plan on keeping that). This is a great bike.

Win-win for me!
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2010, 09:39:32 PM »




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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2010, 10:05:41 PM »

Yup ... I have a (fair) number in my head for the diff ... if it works out I'll have an Autumn Haze.
If not ... certainly no loss as mine is 90% of the '11 already (and 120% in performance - but I plan on keeping that). This is a great bike.

Win-win for me!

What's fair for a 1 year old SESG?? The dealer may have a different "fair" number in mind...
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2010, 10:37:28 PM »

What's fair for a 1 year old SESG?? The dealer may have a different "fair" number in mind...
good question i have 1700 miles on mine w chopped tour pak but would want to switch out exhaust mirrors etc hmmm
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2010, 10:37:36 PM »

What's fair for a 1 year old SESG?? The dealer may have a different "fair" number in mind...

Whatever your wallet can stand would be my take on it.
Mostly ... it's what is fair in your head - if the numbers don't work for you then so be it.

A conversation like this ...
"I love it ... but not THAT much"

Really though, it's about what it is worth to ME. There are some trick things I like about the 2011 (tank panel, etc.) and I have a cost (to me) that I am willing to pay for those "improvements". If "they" have a different "fair" number in mind then it really wasn't fair to begin with ... right?


I have a killer 2010, hence a win-win for me.
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2010, 10:40:04 PM »

Whatever your wallet can stand would be my take on it.
Mostly ... it's what is fair in your head - if the numbers don't work for you then so be it.

A conversation like this ...
"I love it ... but not THAT much"

Really though, it's about what it is worth to ME. There are some trick things I like about the 2011 (tank panel, etc.) and I have a cost (to me) that I am willing to pay for those "improvements". If "they" have a different "fair" number in mind then it really wasn't fair to begin with ... right?


I have a killer 2010, hence a win-win for me.

Point taken......
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2010, 08:45:28 PM »

19" Front Wheel
100 watts per channel Amp
IPod
IPod control Module
Lowers
4 + 2 in the face speakers
Colour matched Inner Fairing
Unique Paint wheel and engine colour combo's
Flush Mount gas door/LED gauge and low profile console
Probably a better seat

Smoken deal for $1500
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« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2010, 01:12:04 PM »

The new CVO Street Glide is killing me.  Might trade in my 2008 SE Ultra Anniversary for it.  I have the Hawgwire 300 watt system but 600 watts...damn.  This is the bike I have been waiting for.
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« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2010, 04:15:27 PM »

The new CVO Street Glide is killing me.  Might trade in my 2008 SE Ultra Anniversary for it.  I have the Hawgwire 300 watt system but 600 watts...damn.  This is the bike I have been waiting for.

600W??? I saw specs said that there were 100W/channel but I question if that is a true 100W/channel. That would be a big amp.. Where did they put it?  :nixweiss: They mounted the SEUC's amp under the tour pack and I think that was only a 40W/channel. I'm curious because I would love to add it to my'10 SESG. If you trade yours in, do you want to make me a good deal on your Hawgwire amp?

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« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2010, 04:21:01 PM »

The hawg Wired system goes inside your fairing.  I had it in my 06 Street Glide too.  On Ultra I had the amp under tour pak removed and sold it.  Great people to deal with. www.hawg-wired.com  Much better than Hog Tunes
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« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2010, 06:44:03 PM »

The new CVO Street Glide is killing me.  Might trade in my 2008 SE Ultra Anniversary for it.  I have the Hawgwire 300 watt system but 600 watts...damn.  This is the bike I have been waiting for.
What system puts out 600 watts???
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« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2010, 08:06:10 PM »

What system puts out 600 watts???

The spec is mis-interpreted. H-D states it is 100w per channel, but they do not mention that it is 100w RMS so it's questionable on the actual output. It's been mis-interpreted  that there are 6 speakers and thus 600w. Doesn't work that way. Even amplifiers are not accurate when they discuss "channels". No matter how many outputs an amp has - the "channels"  are related to a discrete source input. For example - you can have 4 outputs on an amp but it may still only be a stereo amp, and thus there are 2 discrete channels for amplification - Left and Right. Conversely (even though all channels are embedded digitally) a modern Home Theater amp will have 8 amplifiers (Left Front, Right Front, Center, Left Rear, Right Rear, Left Surround, Right Surround, and Sub-woofer). All of the 7.1 channels (sources) contain different audio information - whereas a 4-output stereo amp only has 2 channels of different information (Left and Right) - it just sends the left information to 2 different speakers and the right information to 2 different speakers. So a 7.1 HT amp rated at 120w per channels is really still only a 120w per channel amp, but has a total output of 960w when all channels are pushed to peak power.

It's crazy how many manufacturers try and stretch the specs of their equipment to make it sound like something it is not.

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« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2010, 08:16:56 PM »

The spec is mis-interpreted. H-D states it is 100w per channel, but they do not mention that it is 100w RMS so it's questionable on the actual output. It's been mis-interpreted  that there are 6 speakers and thus 600w. Doesn't work that way. Even amplifiers are not accurate when they discuss "channels". No matter how many outputs an amp has - the "channels"  are related to a discrete source input. For example - you can have 4 outputs on an amp but it may still only be a stereo amp, and thus there are 2 discrete channels for amplification - Left and Right. Conversely (even though all channels are embedded digitally) a modern Home Theater amp will have 8 channels (Left Front, Right Front, Center, Left Rear, Right Rear, Left Surround, Right Surround, and Sub-woofer). All of the 7.1 channels (sources) contain different audio information - whereas a 4-output stereo amp only has 2 channels of different information (Left and Right) - it just sends the left information to 2 different speakers and the right information to 2 different speakers. So a 7.1 HT amp rated at 120w per channels is really still only a 120w per channel amp, but has a total output of 960w when all channels are pushed to peak power.

It's crazy how many manufacturers try and stretch the specs of their equipment to make it sound like something it is not.

Good info.. thanks
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2010, 10:40:31 PM »

Great info, thanks. The hawg-Wired guys would explain it the same way I bet.  I was at the dealership today and even he said it's hard to believe but he read it as everyone else is doing.  I hope more see your post and explanation.  I still love the bike, if I can get my wife to want the Syreet Glide Trike them I'm in.  I do love my CVO Ultra though.
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« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2010, 11:56:59 PM »

So am I understanding this right a 300 watt Hawg-Wired System is 300 watts per channel 150 watts x 2 = 300 watts, and a 250 watt J&M Amp then be 125 watts x 2 = 250 Watts ?
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2010, 06:51:21 AM »

So am I understanding this right a 300 watt Hawg-Wired System is 300 watts per channel 150 watts x 2 = 300 watts, and a 250 watt J&M Amp then be 125 watts x 2 = 250 Watts ?

Almost ... but the max Hawg system is 75 watts per channel and the J&M is 125w/channel when a 2ohm load is applied.

I need to correct my original post a bit first. I mentioned a home theater amp and stated it had 8 discrete channels. That was not accurate - I should have said it had 8 separate amplifiers. That is why (in my example) it is referred to as a "7.1 channel system". The ".1" channel is not really a discrete channel (although it usually has a separate amplifier) as it is the sub-woofer information. The reason it is not truely discrete is that the sub-frequencies are also in the LF and RF channels and are filtered out of those channels and sent to a separate amp section. So in a 7.1 HT setup ... there are 7 discrete channels and 8 amplifiers.

HawgWired sells two different amplifers. They sell a 60 watt and a 75 watt. They publish that they used the Root Mean Square (RMS) method of measuring power output so it readily comparable to other ampliers that state the output using the RMS method. HW is simply selling a single amp per speaker, but it is still a 60 watt or 75 watt per channel system. For 4 speakers, you need 4 75w amps for a total of 300 watts if all channels are driven to peak simultaneously.

The J&M amp looks exactly (and has the same specs) as my elfAudio - which is the same as the arcAudio, which is the same as Wetsounds, etc. J&M publishes there amp specs as follows:

"This is a full range class G amplifier and is spec’d at 125watts RMS per channel, both channels driven, continuous into a 2 ohm load @ 14.4vdc, 70watts RMS continuous into a 4 ohm load."

If you use their 7.25" speakers then it should be accurate to be 125w/channels as their 7.25" speakers have a 2 ohm nominal impedance. However, if you use other speakers at 4 ohm then the rated output drops to 70w/channel.  Another option is to use 4 -ohm speakers and use 4 of them - hook the 2 for the left channel in parallel and hook the right 2 in parallel. This will drop the load to 2-ohms and the J&M will be back to 125w/channel. HOWEVER ... and this is IMPORTANT ... if you try and hook an additional set of 2-ohm speakers in parallel with the J&M amp it will cook the amp pretty easily as the total load per channel will drop to 1-ohm (a full short is 0-ohms). If you want to run 4 speakers (each speaker rated at 2-ohms) then the speakers MUST be wired in series rather than parallel - a total load of 4-ohms per channel will be realized, and the J&M rated output will drop to 70w/channel.

Anyway ... gotten far enough off-topic. Back to the 2011s!!
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2010, 10:14:26 PM »

Thanks Tif2  :2vrolijk_21: It appears the 2011 SESG will have a stereo system that is louder than the exhaust.  :nixweiss:
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2010, 02:03:49 AM »

Thanks Tif2  :2vrolijk_21: It appears the 2011 SESG will have a stereo system that is louder than the exhaust.  :nixweiss:

Maybe ... maybe not.

Since the "100 Watt Per Channel" feature of the 2011 has no reference to the measurement of that output - it really has no meaning for comparison to other upgrades on the market (HawgWired, Hogtunes, elfAudio/arcAudio/J&M/Wetsounds, Biketronics, etc). Hearing is believing in audio ... and as soon as my dealer has a 2011 in stock I'll audition (around the 16th or so).

In looking at my previous posts, I should probably dig a bit deeper. While it may have helped in understandig I need to point out that it's really not about discrete information, but mostly about discrete amplification[/b]. Suffice it to say that a true x-channel amp (be it 2, 4, 28, etc) will have separate and discrete inputs for each individual amplifier section. This allows for pre-processing of signals prior to amplification. I can have a head unit that will take a stereo recording (2 channels) and create 4 channels of output (LF, RF, LR, RR) in order to manipulate those individual outputs. While it's still a stereo signal (2 channel) it can be digitized, bridged, split, etc. in order to manipulate 4 separate signals (albeit 2 channels of information). At that point each signal becomes available for processing (Time Delay, Fade, Balance, etc). The important thing to note is that a true x-channel amp will have x-number of inputs (regardless of number of outputs) and x-number of amplifiers for each input.

Audio is getting to be a very, VERY complicated media ... hope this helps a bit.



I'll post my un-biased impressions on the new system.
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2010, 06:17:41 PM »

From the posts, the stereo seems majorly upgraded!
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2010, 11:33:09 AM »

I too am very happy with my 2010 Spiced Rum CVO.  I am not crazy about any of the new colors.  I do like the speakers and hope they will sell them to us for the 2010's eventually.
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2010, 02:44:05 AM »

I do like the 2011's, but wish they  have not put two extra holes in the fuel tank to make room for the tiny speakers. Wish they would've placed the tweeters elsewhere and retained the full dash with gauges.  :'(
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Re: The New 2011 CVO Street Glides Are Out
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2010, 10:34:41 AM »

I do like the 2011's, but wish they  have not put two extra holes in the fuel tank to make room for the tiny speakers. Wish they would've placed the tweeters elsewhere and retained the full dash with gauges.  :'(

They removed the air temp gauge and put the fuel gauge in the tank like the Road Kings. That's how they got the extra room for the tweeters.
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