Thanks Two lane. I guess it's time I got out of the dark ages. LOL I've heard lots of horror stories, but I've heard lots of positives also. I guess the biggie for me is which way to go. Race tuner, race fueler, PC, Flash, DFO. So many things, so little time. I just need to do some research and see who is good here with FI locally. I do know of one pretty good PC guy, so maybe I'll go that way. If I do go the PC route, do I still need the flash? I don't care about raising my rev limiter, I don't go past 5K anyway.
GC, the RT or PC or DFO question often seems to be almost religious in fervor. Though almost no one actually sets them up themselves.......
Everyone's decision is their own of course. I'll gladly share with what I based my choice on though. Since I'm not doing the final setups on either. And since I'm actually paying someone else (a good dyno guy) to get the most out of whatever gets installed. I'm installing whichever one the closest good dyno guy likes best. His preference is my preference; I don't even give it a second thought.
I happen to have the PC. It's what John at Rolling Thunder Dyno likes. He's really good and less than a mile from my house when he's not on the road at a rally someplace. So for me it's an easy choice.
As for a flash installed under the PC. No, you don't have to. The PC will remap from whatever baseline it has underneath it. So the download is not required. Having said that, I did it anyway. Purely as a redundant backup or insurance.
If the PC ever craps out some distance from home it is five-minute-simple to remove from the bike. But should that ever happen I didn't want to finish a trip with the overly lean condition that would be the result of my pipes and breather with the stock mapping. So having the Stage I chip downloaded means my "baseline" is something that makes the bike much happier in case of a PC failure. You just need to decide which you're going to do first. The PC adjusts from whatever baseline it's originally programmed from. So whatever your baseline is going to be needs to be there before the PC gets programmed.
As for the likelihood of a PC failure; they seem to be pretty reliable. I've had them on three bikes now for a lot of miles. Comeing back from the east coast this spring, however, my bike started acting funky. It might have been the PC. Might not have been. But it wasn't running right. So I pulled the PC about 600 miles from home at a rest stop in Indiana someplace.
To this day I still can't say absolutely whether the PC was contributing to the problem. Manufacturer replaced it under warranty just because the probem was terribly intermittent and they knew they might not ever find it. But I was really glad I had the Stage I download as my baseline for the rest of the trip home.