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[michaelbmenaker]

Bmw r series, still aircooled i know the engine layout is better for cooling but they never seem to run anywhere near as hot as a harley,

And, there's your answer...

[apehangerdanny]

C'mon Danny. Just do the mods and you will be fine.  I live in fl and I even removed my lowers.  Gave up the speakers as well.


 These 110s do get hot.  No doubt about that.  More cubic inches means more heat.  You bought the bike now do the improvements or just get rid of it.  If you don't you will be miserable on it till you do.  I have a new bike and it's not much hotter now than my 04 103.    Exhaust  tts tune.   $1600.  I know it sucks but what did you pay for that bike you hate to ride.   Just do it.  You'll be happy you did.      I'll make you feel better,,,, we all did it.    And more.  

your right I bought it cause I love it didn't  have problem with my 03 or any others in the past. already had Rinehart slip on ordered
Fullsac yesterday .just blowing off steam but when you buy the best of the best  should be good to go .

[twinotter]

 I have an S&S T124 installed in my 01' Dyna, since 07'. The hottest Ive recorded was in Sturgis in 08', 99degrees outside, stuck in traffic for 45 minutes. Oil temp climbed to 215 degrees. Out on the highway is same temps it stayed around 195. At home it has never reached 190 (southern Ontario, Canada).
Harley's always looking for an excuse, usually blames the Emissions, but it certainly doesn't have to be that way.
If they cared (HD) about anything other than stealing your money, they could easily design an engine around liquid cooling or oil cooling like Polaris with looks not really different than what you see now. Even installing a big oil cooler as stock would really help, but HD has chosen to work the percentages of failure instead of a real design that works.
I love my 01 Dyna, I even liked it stock, then with 93hp/98t, then with a supercharger (Magnacharger) at 125hp/125t and now with the 124. None of these ever run anywhere near as hot as these new bikes. The 95" Supercharged motor did reach 230 degrees one day at 160 mph on a 95 degree day, but normally run at 200.
I won't be considering a new Harley anytime soon, not until they solve these dependabilty issues. FWIW twinotter

[DISTURBEDCUSTOM]

DONT WANT TO SOUND STUPID BUT WHAT IS THIS  STUFF
TTS Mastertune
Fullsac 1.75" CVO cores
SE Ventilator air cleaner
 PLEASE ENLIGEHTEN ME
ALSO WHAT KINDA FANS

[michaelbmenaker]

DONT WANT TO SOUND STUPID BUT WHAT IS THIS  STUFF
TTS Mastertune
Fullsac 1.75" CVO cores
SE Ventilator air cleaner
 PLEASE ENLIGEHTEN ME
ALSO WHAT KINDA FANS

TTS is the "old" SERT now sold by Fullsac (www.fullsac.com)
SE Ventilator A/C is stock on the SE Street Glides and is a "hi-flow" A/C
Fullsac makes replacement cores for stock muffler bodies in 3 sizes 1.75", 2.0" and 2.25"...they also make a pretty good head pipe

Lot's of guys here have had great results using Fullsac products. I run their 2.0" muffler cores with a cat-less head pipe they modified and a ProSERT. Very happy.
PS: I think they are talking about the HD "Parade Fans". Some have said they just blow the hot air the other way, some like 'em.

[Robmay]

Okay, let's get real. I live in Florida. I have used the xpipe, TTS with auto tune, auto tuned my bike, stock pipes, full sack, BUBS, Harley super tuner, and now have D&D 2 into 1 with the Harley super tuner and heat wrapped header pipes and a Dyno tune.  It remains hot, even when it's in the 70's outside. Unbearable when in the 90's. I have to remove the lowers by this time of year and keep them off until late fall.

I have run a stoich gauge on my 09 and this bike. What I have witnessed with my own 2 eyes is that I can change my air fuel ratio into the 12's, the bike starts out there and within 80 miles it's right back to stoich (near or at 14.6).

What no one will admit is that between the throttle by wire and ECM you have no control over air fuel ratio or cooling your engine. The tuners serve there purpose for many other areas, but cooling is not one of them and will not be under the CURRENT setup.

An AIR COOLED ENGINE needs one thing....AIR.

Bottom line: buy what you want to make the bike Sunday and run how you want it but none of it will cool your bike off.

[Cvostu]

Rob,,I made a few changes on the new bike too.  The best thing I did was to remove the lowers. I have fulsac and a tts with what I think is a good dyno tune.  Good to me means that the bike runs well   Now I dont think it's much hotter than my Seeg. These 110s are hot.  The best we can do is try to keep them bearable.  We live in fl.  We are at a disadvantage when we wake up most of the year when it comes to heat.

[ridefar]

Bmw r series, still aircooled i know the engine layout is better for cooling but they never seem to run anywhere near as hot as a harley,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And that with 12 to 1 compression! That motor will be liquid cooled begining in 2013 in order to meet upcoming Euro emission(noise) standards. Looking like about a 25% bump in horsepower will be had, so much for 90 years of tradition. Who the heck would want that?

[Robmay]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And that with 12 to 1 compression! That motor will be liquid cooled begining in 2013 in order to meet upcoming Euro emission(noise) standards. Looking like about a 25% bump in horsepower will be had, so much for 90 years of tradition. Who the heck would want that?

Are you saying Harley touring bikes will be liquid cooled by in 2013? If so, I've been hearing that rumor every year since the 08's...

[dartman]

Are you saying Harley touring bikes will be liquid cooled by in 2013? If so, I've been hearing that rumor every year since the 08's...

BMW R1250GS liquid cooled 2013

[Robmay]

BMW R1250GS liquid cooled 2013

Oh....LOL. Then it's probably true! 

[michaelbmenaker]

Oh....LOL. Then it's probably true! 

Actually, it is.
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/water-cooled-bmw-r1250gs-spied/19768.html

[Robmay]

Actually, it is.
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/water-cooled-bmw-r1250gs-spied/19768.html

I was being sincere.

[Sledge]

Don't know if it's somewhere in this thread already, but here's what I did (besides header/pipe/tuning)  Also as stated before there is a ton of info about heat on the forum, do a search and you'll find plenty of tips.

1.  Remove the mid-frame air deflectors.  They were bouncing the heat right at my leg and seemed to dam up the airflow rather than deflect it.

2.  There is a small deflector/spacer at the rear edge of the tank, remove it too.  (If you don't want to see the mounting bolts exposed by this under the leading edge of the seat, spray a bit of black paint on 'em and they can't be seen.)

3.  Definitely remove the lower fairings.

4.  There is a big square hole in the crossframe plate forward of the battery compartment (in my year anyways) where there used to be a couple of circular holes.  Now the heat blows right up under the seat in the batt compartment area.  Block that hole and things stay much cooler under there.

Sledge

[Robmay]

Great tips sledge.