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Motor quits???
« on: September 08, 2006, 11:21:33 PM »

Now that I am beyond the break in miles on my engine upgrades (103+ Pistons with matching custom headwork, S&S 685 Geardrive cams, springs, rods, etc. etc. - LSR 2-1 Pipe, Big Sucker air cleaner, PCIII and a few other goodies I don't remember) But now that I am beyond the break in miles and gettin on her a lil harder breakin in my new PM six piston brakes I have developed a slight problem. When gettin on the brakes hard the motor dies. The PCIII has a basic stage I map but she will be Dyno tuned next thursday and hopefully that will help as I have noticed that at idle the PCIII LED readout is real low - it shows -10 thru plus 10 fuel and at idle it shows just two bars. Like I said hopefully this is a tweak they will make when tuning but I thought I'd ask for any opinions. I know it didn't do it before as I had a brush with a deer ( - really it brushed my left leg after passing in front of me!!) I was runnin on the highway at 75 or so and saw it coming from the medium and I got all over the brakes as she just made it in front of me - and the bike was fine - this was just before the engine work. Now it would die, hit the starter and it starts right up. The idle also likes to run on high idle a lot ( about 2000 rpms?  ) rather than the low idle about 1000. At start up it will start high then drop down as normal, but often when running around town I'll pull in to a parking lot and it will be running on high idle again. Any thoughts?
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Re: Motor quits???
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2006, 11:36:05 PM »

I had similiar erratic idle problems on my 01 SE RG, and it turned out to be a vacuum leak...something to look at.  When they dyno your bike, they should be able to figure it out pretty quick...

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Re: Motor quits???
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2006, 07:48:01 AM »

You dont happen to be sandbar51 on ebay by any chance? We just sold a mustang solo seat on ebay and the name just struck me that you could be the buyer?
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Re: Motor quits???
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2006, 10:03:43 AM »

nope - looks like most of the same letters, just a different order.!!  I do have my 04 SEEG for sale on Ebay - but I did not buy your seat....

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Re: Motor quits???
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2006, 10:02:13 PM »

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Now that I am beyond the break in miles on my engine upgrades (103+ Pistons with matching custom headwork, S&S 685 Geardrive cams, springs, rods, etc. etc. - LSR 2-1 Pipe, Big Sucker air cleaner, PCIII and a few other goodies I don't remember) But now that I am beyond the break in miles and gettin on her a lil harder breakin in my new PM six piston brakes I have developed a slight problem. When gettin on the brakes hard the motor dies. The PCIII has a basic stage I map but she will be Dyno tuned next thursday and hopefully that will help as I have noticed that at idle the PCIII LED readout is real low - it shows -10 thru plus 10 fuel and at idle it shows just two bars. Like I said hopefully this is a tweak they will make when tuning but I thought I'd ask for any opinions. I know it didn't do it before as I had a brush with a deer ( - really it brushed my left leg after passing in front of me!!) I was runnin on the highway at 75 or so and saw it coming from the medium and I got all over the brakes as she just made it in front of me - and the bike was fine - this was just before the engine work. Now it would die, hit the starter and it starts right up. The idle also likes to run on high idle a lot ( about 2000 rpms?
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Re: Motor quits???
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2006, 01:12:37 AM »

Where is the throttle stop screw? Didn't think about that since I havent had a carb to screw up the settings on this bike!!
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2006, 08:01:21 AM »

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Where is the throttle stop screw? Didn't think about that since I havent had a carb to screw up the settings on this bike!!
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See attachment.  The screw has an aluminum plug over it to prevent tampering - if the plug is still in place you should be ok.  Make sure the throttle cables are letting the linkage contact the stop and aren't binding.  

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Re: Motor quits???
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2006, 12:32:39 AM »

Well no more quit - dyno tuned today and runs out smooth, the A/F mix was real lean til about 2500 rpms then real rich, then real lean again about 4k - looked like a wave, now all good and straight as an arrow - and the idle is better. The lean mix down low must have caused the computer to idle up often cause its calmed down now and purring.
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Re: Motor quits???
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2006, 06:31:09 PM »

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Well no more quit - dyno tuned today and runs out smooth, the A/F mix was real lean til about 2500 rpms then real rich, then real lean again about 4k - looked like a wave, now all good and straight as an arrow - and the idle is better. The lean mix down low must have caused the computer to idle up often cause its calmed down now and purring.
Glad to hear that you got this taken care of and it's running good now. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

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Re: Motor quits???
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2006, 04:20:17 AM »

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Well no more quit - [highlight]dyno tuned toda[/highlight]y and runs out smooth, the A/F mix was real lean til about 2500 rpms then real rich, then real lean again about 4k - looked like a wave, now all good and straight as an arrow - and the idle is better. The lean mix down low must have caused the computer to idle up often cause its calmed down now and purring.


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Re: Motor quits???
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2006, 09:49:41 AM »

Not a good copy as you cant see the torque line but here's the best I could do, i highlighted the torque line in the editor, ..
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Re: Motor quits???
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2006, 09:53:27 AM »

Obviously the S&S 585 Gear drives leave a lot to be desired of, I may be looking at Freedom or Zippers swap out this winter. But the tune got that A/F mix dead on straight. Getting good fuel milage and pulls great at the higher RPM's.
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