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[smkymtnboy]

You guys have my head spinnin' now.

What I liked about the 03 was the 103 Stroker. Just sent the chills up my back. I have a feeling this bike will hold more value due to limited production vs. overproduction on the newer bikes. Still might consider this one as a stepping stone until I get to the point where I can really do some distance riding.

With the talk about at least an 09 for the frame and add a couple of years to that for an O twelve I can have the new frame and the 103. For about 4g's more. Gonna have to lay back and wait for the one special bike to bite me I guess.

Any flaws in my thinking here?

if , you can test ride em. do it. the more bikes you test ride the easier it is to understand. I have a 08 and the newer frame bikes 09 and later. I enjoy ridin either one. the engines on the 07 and early 08s did have recalls. with v.i.n. you can go to Harley website to see that the updated recall has been performed or the local Harley dealer can advise. I think most all will agree the 04 and 05 se are reliable bikes. hope this helps and good luck with your search                                             

[donvito]

Dont know if you bought anything yet, but some advice from someone that had an 07 RG, basically skip an 07-08. The 96" crank is weak as hell, and if you start building the motor and actually pushing it to its limits it will eat at your pocket book. The 09 and up are light years ahead, my 07 would start getting squirrelly in sweepers at about 78 mph. My 12 I am doing 90-95 and if my nuts were bigger I can push it more. If you can especially if youre thinking CVO, the newer the model (09 vs 12) the bugs with the lifters and ABS and some other issues should have been worked out by moco.
Keep in mind if youre the type to search classifieds for parts and accessories, 09 and newer are more abundant than pre 09s, but when you find stuff the parts are cheaper.

[Dan_Lockwood]

I don't disagree with the '09 and newer, but I will say that I had a new '08 SERK Annie and when I traded it in on my '09 SERG it had 17k miles.  When I bought the '09 the '10s had just been released and with no SERG in '10, I went with a new '09 SERG still on the floor.

There was a ton of difference between the '08 and '09 ride wise.  Of course going from a RK to a RG is a big change on its own.

My point being that on my '08 other than the PCIII that crapped out on me, I had absolutely zeroooooo issues with the '08 mechanically.  I did have some powder coating on the inner primary chip off and they put on a chrome inner under warranty at no extra charge.

The '08 gets you ABS, TBW, 6 gal tank, cush drive rear wheel and many more, just not the new frame that the '09 has.  For my riding the '08 was very good and the '09 is better, but I was very happy with the '08 overall.  It was just when I went into Rapid City Convention Center in '08 that I saw the new SERG's all in a row and that ass end was beautiful....  I told the wife that I just had to have one of those beauties.  And I did two years later.

It all boils down the deal you get and there are some pretty good deals out there now.  I would tend to look for the '09 and newer even if it's not a CVO, it's going to be a good ride for you.  Then see about upgrading later to a CVO if that's what you're looking for.

[Unbalanced]

07 and 08 are the only years that are imo truly pass years.  The 07 was the introduction of the new motor with part of the tuning and an odd ball throttlebody.   The 08 they added some more functionality like ABS and bigger tank if memory serves me, but small rear tire.   Its not until  09 new frame, better ride and handling, new throttle by wire, larger tire.

103 and 110 use the same crank stroke although the crank was cheapened imo post 06 model motors.  Its the bore size that makes the difference in the cubic inches of the motor.   03 has hemi heads if its a SE 103 the 110 is not hemi its more bath tub the sparkplug side of the chamber deviates / protrudes a little farther than a true bathtub shelf.  103 head has 1.90 intake and 1.623 exhaust.  The 110 head is 2.080 intake and 1.623 exhaust

On the 110 new models the pistons are not typically at 0 deck they range more from .005 - .010 in the hole.   The 103's were more 0 deck to .002 in the hole for the ones I have owned.   110 has compensator rattles the old style does not.  Its said you can rectify this with the baker or gmr compusaver, but again something to consider.   


03,  103 engine, 43mm throttlebody. 4.35 injectors, 94-95 cc heads hemi, old style chain tensions and cam plate

09   110 engine, abs, 50mm throttlebody, 3.91 injectors new style injector and cam tensions (hydraulic), new oil pump, crappier lifters up to 2013 cant speak past that,  94-95cc heads, new frame, better ride and handling.   Hotter from the factory read leaner to meet EPA and no overlap in the cam in the 255 although is a torque monster and 7 more cubic inches.   

If your after a bit more power and you want just reliability and getting rid of the heat and a proven combination on the 110 engine the 24d cam with headwork, air cleaner, good pipes and good tune will yield you that middle ground around 120 /120  without PMS.   I have both versions of frame and the ride/handling imo is much better and for me a no brainer on the new style as the choice. 

[firefighter156]

09 or newer for sure  No Brainer and all the points Harry mentioned.

[HOGMIKE]

I am about ready to move up to the touring class. Still researching and found this. Just wondering if it is a good deal or not. I was also considering an 03 Screamin Eagle Road King ($12K) with the 103" stroker or a 2012 Road King Custom ($17K). Just kickin the tires and looking for opinions.

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/mcd/5116401405.html

Go to the nearest dealer, they're pushing the '15's out the door, $4K off on some, 0% financing, 6months no payments, etc, etc.
JMHO
 

[Scott7d]

The 07's are fine as long as you sink enough $$$$ to fix all or replace with better.

Soooooo the 07's are not fine?

I can definitely vouch for the 2013 if that fits your budget. Zero issues so far and runs incredibly smooth.

[Unbalanced]

My take on the 07 was it was the first year, but I had totaled my 05 and needed a bike and loved the color.  Hindsight is 20/20, but to be asked to do it all over.    No thanks been there, done that, got the scars and lighter wallet to prove it.  There were  Head Recalls, liners that slipped, small rear tire, 46mm throttlebody, odd sized throttlebody fit only the 07,  at the time crappy tuners as SERT wasn't fully developed and was being discontinued, and TTS wasn't quite out yet and it was a partial change over year.   Had one loved the paint scheme and hated the bike and the hassles.   ohh and forgot the original crappy compression releases that came out twice while on vacations and ruined them.           


Some of these items have been rectified like the heads, and compression releases, but with the 09's being out there or later model why would you ever take on that headache.   
   

[Lucky Doug]

All good info and I appreciate all the comments.

I test rode an 03 SE Road King and it wasn't the bike that I first looked at and not nearly as appealing as the first one I looked at. I think the first one has a stage 1 and sounded good but I did not get to ride it. Scratch that one.

I have a Street Bob now. It is an 07 I am very pleased with it. Great for the town runs and hitting the twisties. I thought about the 07 touring would be good just for the economics.

Now it is down to 09 and up to get the newer frame. 12 models have the 103. CVO''s are not in my budget for 09 and up.

Is there that much difference in the 96ci and the 103 on the butt dyno? I have seen this addressed somewhere else and consensus was no, there wasn't that much difference. Would and 09 with Stage 2 be a better way to spend my money?