Cobaltman, a little story.
Before OCC got too big for their britches 4 of us had the opportunity to meet the Tuttles in Daytona. On their show, the one when it ains and blows so hard their tent collapsed my aunt, uncle, wife and I were there. It was raining so hard that we were all in there trailer waiting for the rain to stop. Over 2 hours.
Talked to Sr. about having a bagger/chopper made. Was to meet them in Myrtle Beach. A blond girl would not let me in to make my appointment with Sr. She informed me that I needed to pay the $20 to enter the building. Needless to say I am not paying money to talk to anyone, expecially one who without our money would not be in buisness anymore.
That was the day I lost respect for OCC.
Sr. did call me after MB cussing me out for not keeping our meeting. I told him how I felt and we left it at that.
No more OCC in my book. There loss=my gain