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Disconnecting the battery - ?
« on: March 26, 2015, 07:02:51 AM »


So, this is my first bike with security (and first CVO), so bear with me if these questions are obvious.  I got some heated gear and I want to install the cable so that I can plug it into the bike.  To do so, obviously, I need to disconnect the battery and add the wires.  In the manual, to disconnect the battery, there is a step that is simply, "disarm security system".  I thought just having the fob nearby did that, but I recalled something else from the security section.

In the security section, it says to avoid the audible alarm going off, you need to switch the run/stop to run, and then disconnect the battery or pull the maxi-fuse (don't have my service manual yet, . 

But I'm wondering if that's written for other bikes?  Because, turning the run stop to run, turns on the whole bike.  That seems like the worst time to pull the battery or a fuse, while the bike is using power?  There is no, bike in "run" and bike "off" mode for these is there?  Just seems weird to me I guess.

Now, the wiring for the heated gear actually has "hooks" on it, so really, maybe I don't need to pull the battery, maybe just back the screw out a little.

Any tips, or just a realization that I'm overthinking it and should just walk up to the bike with the fob, find and loosen the battery screws, install and tighten and be done with it.

Thx,
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Re: Disconnecting the battery - ?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2015, 07:31:48 AM »

Follow the manual and pull the maxi fuse.
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Re: Disconnecting the battery - ?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2015, 07:56:19 AM »


Thanks.

Boy, they don't make that thing easy to get to...
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Re: Disconnecting the battery - ?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2015, 01:59:31 PM »


Well, just in case anyone reads this, figured I'd follow myself up.

All I can think of is Mr. Scott in Star Trek 3, "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.".

So, I did follow the Owners manual, I had to take the bag off, to get the side cover off, turned on the bike and pulled the 50A fuse.  Then, pulled the seats, followed by having to detach 4 wiring connectors from the battery cover (only really needed to take 2 of them off to get the cover out of the way, 2 slid off easy, the other 2, not so much.  2 screws holding the cover on, then pulled the ground off the battery.

No alarm sounded.

Installed the wiring and reversed the procedure, switched the bike back off and plugged the fuse back in.  Bike seems happy, all the electronics worked and she fired up, so I guess I didn't break or short out anything along the way.

Guess I'm getting old, my last bike I could just take the seat off and the battery terminals were right there...  They seemed to needlessly cover the + side of the battery with this cover, otherwise you wouldn't need to take it off to just add the accessory plug.

Oh well, given the way the weather in New Hampshire is going this season, I'm going to need the heated gear, so it's probably worth it.
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Re: Disconnecting the battery - ?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2015, 02:32:46 PM »

Well, just in case anyone reads this, figured I'd follow myself up.

All I can think of is Mr. Scott in Star Trek 3, "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.".

So, I did follow the Owners manual, I had to take the bag off, to get the side cover off, turned on the bike and pulled the 50A fuse.  Then, pulled the seats, followed by having to detach 4 wiring connectors from the battery cover (only really needed to take 2 of them off to get the cover out of the way, 2 slid off easy, the other 2, not so much.  2 screws holding the cover on, then pulled the ground off the battery.

No alarm sounded.

Installed the wiring and reversed the procedure, switched the bike back off and plugged the fuse back in.  Bike seems happy, all the electronics worked and she fired up, so I guess I didn't break or short out anything along the way.

Guess I'm getting old, my last bike I could just take the seat off and the battery terminals were right there...  They seemed to needlessly cover the + side of the battery with this cover, otherwise you wouldn't need to take it off to just add the accessory plug.

Oh well, given the way the weather in New Hampshire is going this season, I'm going to need the heated gear, so it's probably worth it.

If you've ever seen what happens when someone accidently shorts the positive post of a battery directly to ground, you should know why vehicle manufacturers install a cover over the positive post and cable connector.  PITA perhaps, but it exists for a very good reason.

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Re: Disconnecting the battery - ?
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2016, 11:45:59 PM »

Same issue, except I didn't follow these rules. Now my horn, headlight, starter, mph, rpm and odometer won't work.

All fuses are okay. Is this security preventing or did my bike experience a short?
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Re: Disconnecting the battery - ?
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2016, 08:36:54 AM »

When doing anything to the battery, always disconnect the negative first and connect it last.
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Re: Disconnecting the battery - ?
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2016, 08:41:11 AM »

We did do that as well, just didn't pull the main fuse prior to disconnecting.
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Re: Disconnecting the battery - ?
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2016, 10:44:47 AM »

try this...with your fob present, turn bike on, in run position, pull main fuse, wait, then put fuse back in...all should be good again...dont ask how i know  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Disconnecting the battery - ?
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2016, 02:11:12 PM »


If Harley cared about being proactive and reducing customer issues, they could install a highly visible decal on the battery cover with the directions on how to properly disable the security system before disconnecting the battery.  It might cost them a few pennies per unit, but at least that decal would be useful as opposed to all the other stupid ones they stick all over the place to warn people about things like the exhaust pipes get really hot and other equally obvious stuff.

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Re: Disconnecting the battery - ?
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2016, 03:35:01 PM »

All is well on bike!!! Thanks for the advice guys!
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