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Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« on: January 06, 2007, 09:36:17 AM »

Yesterday was my first ride on the new Zippers 117" muscle kit with the ThunderMax ECM.  I rode about 150 miles total, and of course kept the rpm's low; however, I could tell that this thing has WAY more punch than the worked 103 that it was before.  Torque is awesome right from the get-go with the Redshift 647 cams.  This motor is smoooooth running, and the Rineharts no longer have the decel "pop" that they had before...never popped even one time...never could get that out with the SE Racetuner.

Only one problem...the turn signals now will not self-cancel...must have something to do with the new ECM...I'll see if I can work through that in the next week or so.

I have an appointment in about 10 days to get it dynoed...I'll report back with the results.  Until then, I'm gonna be logging some smiley miles ;D down here in warm ol' Florida.  It's been down two months, with diamond cutting, and case boring and on and on...now I just want to ride for awhile.  Below is a photo of the diamond cutting on a silver motor.  Even with the camera set to the highest resolution, the photos don't properly capture the jeweled effect.
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Re: Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2007, 09:54:40 AM »

Congrats on the new motor......let us know how it works out for ya!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2007, 10:52:28 AM »

Love that look!!!
Nice work SCRM...117 Wow...

Put a pic of the whole bike in thread for us.


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Re: Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2007, 11:00:16 AM »

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Yesterday was my first ride on the new Zippers 117" muscle kit with the ThunderMax ECM.  I rode about 150 miles total, and of course kept the rpm's low; however, I could tell that this thing has WAY more punch than the worked 103 that it was before.  Torque is awesome right from the get-go with the Redshift 647 cams.  This motor is smoooooth running, and the Rineharts no longer have the decel "pop" that they had before...never popped even one time...never could get that out with the SE Racetuner.

Only one problem...the turn signals now will not self-cancel...must have something to do with the new ECM...I'll see if I can work through that in the next week or so.

I have an appointment in about 10 days to get it dynoed...I'll report back with the results.  Until then, I'm gonna be logging some smiley miles ;D down here in warm ol' Florida.  It's been down two months, with diamond cutting, and case boring and on and on...now I just want to ride for awhile.  Below is a photo of the diamond cutting on a silver motor.  Even with the camera set to the highest resolution, the photos don't properly capture the jeweled effect.

Real nice looking motor. Good luck with it. Who built it? What are you expecting out of it? Enjoy (how could you not!) ;) Hoist!  8-)
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Re: Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2007, 11:32:24 AM »

Check the speedometer calibration setting in the ThunderMax.  A 2003 bike *should* be 20480, but with the extended build time of 2003 models, a fair amount left the factory with 2002-model ECM's, requiring the 2002 speedo calibration setting of 4352.  One way to tell is to look at the stock ECM, back side.  The HD part number should end in -03 if it is using 2003 electronics, -02 if using 2002 (regardless of the bike year).  It's in the SmartLink manual to check that on 2003 models, but many people miss it.  We always set speedo cal to 20480 when programming modules for 2003 bikes, but it's not always right for the reasons stated above.

Another factor that can affect TS canceling is non-stock TS lights with different current draws.  

Glad you got it together, enjoy!  Thanks for using our products.  JK
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Re: Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2007, 01:36:27 PM »

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  Looks real good!  I know you will be pleased with Zipper's.  They build good chit!  If you think you're impressed now, wait 'till they tune it.  I'll be curious to see your dyno-sheet.  I'm of the opinion the Zipper's Motor is Superior to the Jim's 120.  So far, anyway.  Ain't no Jim's Motors passed Ol' Maudie!  ;) Later--HUBBARD  
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Re: Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2007, 05:16:02 PM »

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Real nice looking motor. Good luck with it. Who built it? What are you expecting out of it? Enjoy (how could you not!) ;) Hoist!  8-)
The motor was built at Gainesville H-D, Gainesville, FL.  They have a mechanic there that has done work for me before and is top-notch.  The case boring and timken bearing conversion was performed at Zippers.  Rode it another 150 miles today.  Still riding it easy, but bumped 4k rpms a couple of times just giving it about half throttle.  OH MY!!!  This thing is strooooong.  Gotta check the fuel gauge too...still showing about half-tank.  It may be getting better mileage than before (I hope), but I know that I ain't gonna get 300 miles on a tank of gas!  I like these gear drive cams...no cam noise at all.  So far, to say that I am pleased is an understatement.  What am I expecting to get out of it?  A lot more smile miles.  [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] I'll know more after I get it dynoed...want to check the AFR.

Here is a pic of the whole bike prior to the diamond cutting...it's a 2003 SERK...I don't have my camera right now...loaned it out this afternoon.  I'll take another one later in the week.  Later...
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Re: Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2007, 05:20:56 PM »

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Check the speedometer calibration setting in the ThunderMax.  A 2003 bike *should* be 20480, but with the extended build time of 2003 models, a fair amount left the factory with 2002-model ECM's, requiring the 2002 speedo calibration setting of 4352.  One way to tell is to look at the stock ECM, back side.  The HD part number should end in -03 if it is using 2003 electronics, -02 if using 2002 (regardless of the bike year).  It's in the SmartLink manual to check that on 2003 models, but many people miss it.  We always set speedo cal to 20480 when programming modules for 2003 bikes, but it's not always right for the reasons stated above.

Another factor that can affect TS canceling is non-stock TS lights with different current draws.  

Glad you got it together, enjoy!  Thanks for using our products.  JK
JK, I'll check that.  I do have the Kuryakyn Panacea LED Taillight kit.  Could that be doing it?  Is there a remedy?  Another thing that I noticed is that the Security System is acting a little screwy.  It works, but I have to deactivate it twice before the motor will turn over when cranking.  The first time that you deactivate it with the key fob deactivates the security system, but it will not start...do it again and it starts...a little screwy that's all.  Just don't know what is causing it.  Any ideas?
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2007, 05:50:10 PM »

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The motor was built at Gainesville H-D, Gainesville, FL.  They have a mechanic there that has done work for me before and is top-notch.  The case boring and timken bearing conversion was performed at Zippers.  Rode it another 150 miles today.  Still riding it easy, but bumped 4k rpms a couple of times just giving it about half throttle.  OH MY!!!  This thing is strooooong.  Gotta check the fuel gauge too...still showing about half-tank.  It may be getting better mileage than before (I hope), but I know that I ain't gonna get 300 miles on a tank of gas!  I like these gear drive cams...no cam noise at all.  So far, to say that I am pleased is an understatement.  What am I expecting to get out of it?  A lot more smile miles.  [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif] I'll know more after I get it dynoed...want to check the AFR.

Here is a pic of the whole bike prior to the diamond cutting...it's a 2003 SERK...I don't have my camera right now...loaned it out this afternoon.  I'll take another one later in the week.  Later...

It's real nice to hear about great builds. You should have some good stories after that thing is broken in! Have fun man! ;) Hoist!  8-)
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Re: Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2007, 06:17:23 PM »

Looks great.  Sounds like you think she runs great too.  That is the perfect 1-2 combination  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] .
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2007, 10:24:32 PM »

Congrats on the new motor! Sounds like you have made a good choice! I sent you a pm
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Re: Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2007, 08:18:59 AM »

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Re: Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2007, 08:52:31 AM »

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Re: Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2007, 04:19:50 PM »

Checked the gas mileage today...second tank run thru it and it got 38 mpg...I didn't check it on the first tank.  Almost the exact same as the 103 was getting, and it's a much bigger motor.  This one must be tuned better.  I'll know more about that in a week or so.  I'm happy with 38...I was afraid that it was going to be less...It's 75 and sunny here today...I've been ridin' off and on all day...now it's time for some rest and  [smiley=drink.gif]
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Re: Zippers 117" Kit w/ThunderMax & Diamond Cut
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2007, 05:13:06 PM »

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SCRM-R,
  Looks real good!  I know you will be pleased with Zipper's.  They build good chit!  If you think you're impressed now, wait 'till they tune it.  I'll be curious to see your dyno-sheet.  I'm of the opinion the Zipper's Motor is Superior to the Jim's 120.  So far, anyway.  Ain't no Jim's Motors passed Ol' Maudie!  ;) Later--HUBBARD  


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