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[SCRM-R]

Had the speedometer calibration checked and got it dynoed today.  Calibration was incorrect...this was corrected, but no change...turn signals still won't self-cancel.
Dynoed at 125 hp and 122 tq. (max values).  Expected a little more, but oh well, it pulls hard and stays there throughout the rpm range.  I'll try to get the dyno sheet scanned and posted tomorrow.
AFR was high...14.1 to 14.5...they retuned it to 13.5.  Dyno sheet was printed without the AFR reading, but that is where it is.  Dyno graph tomorrow, if I get time to scan and post it.

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SCRM-R

Sounds good!
Bet it flies.
Let us know how it plays out!


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[Twolanerider]

Had the speedometer calibration checked and got it dynoed today.  Calibration was incorrect...this was corrected, but no change...turn signals still won't self-cancel.
Dynoed at 125 hp and 122 tq. (max values).  Expected a little more, but oh well, it pulls hard and stays there throughout the rpm range.  I'll try to get the dyno sheet scanned and posted tomorrow.
AFR was high...14.1 to 14.5...they retuned it to 13.5.  Dyno sheet was printed without the AFR reading, but that is where it is.  Dyno graph tomorrow, if I get time to scan and post it.

The important thing is that you're satisfied with how it feels beneath you of course.  And certainly a different dyno on a different day might give you some different reported numbers.  

Like you though I certainly was expecting you'd see more from the complete 117" build.  Basing it only against the just under 120/120 the red bike got with just cleaning up the 103" I can understand your hope to have seen a bit more.

Congrats on getting it all buttoned back up though.  Sorry to read of the little quirk with the signals too.  Hopefully Zippers will have some alternative ideas for a solution and will answer the question when you ask them.  Good luck.

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SCRM-R

I would like to see that chart.

Hope to have one myself later this week!

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[SCRM-R]

Here is the dyno chart.  Incidentally, on the other motor that I had, the numbers from this dyno read lower across the board than two other dynos that I had it on.  Not that it makes any difference, I just know not to expect high numbers from their machine, which are only numbers anyway.  It runs really well, I just wish that the turn signals would work right.  Not enough for me to remove the ThunderMax though.  No decel popping...that's gotta be worth something...

[chriscalabro]

Can you tell me if your still running the Rinehart TD's with this build? Did you ever resolve the turn signal issue? I am getting this build done as we speak and have been debating staying with the TD's which I love.

[DCFIREMANN]

Nice looking dyno sheet. I love the diamond cut on the motor. You wil be pleased. Zippers does some good work. MOST OF THE TIME!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[SCRM-R]

Can you tell me if your still running the Rinehart TD's with this build? Did you ever resolve the turn signal issue? I am getting this build done as we speak and have been debating staying with the TD's which I love.

Yes, I'm still running the RH TD's, and no, the turn signal issue was never resolved.  They (Zippers) evidently do not have a resolution for this problem, and you sure as hell can't get any customer service from them.  Another issue that I had with this motor was pinging in warm/hot weather.  Took it to a ThunderMax tuner last summer and he was able to tune it out with some minor tweaking of the ThunderMax.  Others on this site with Zippers motors have had pinging and have not been able to get it tuned out.  It also uses oil...about 1/2 quart per 500 miles, which for me is excessive because I take long trips with this bike and have to pack oil for the trip.  I'll probably have it torn down next winter (if it lasts that long) to see what it will take to have that fixed.  Always something...
In hindsight, I wish that I had stayed with the 103 motor that I had built...it was trouble free.  I spent 5k to gain 10-12 hp/tq. and got a motor that pings and uses oil.  IMO, Zippers sucks...

[DCFIREMANN]

Yes, I'm still running the RH TD's, and no, the turn signal issue was never resolved.  They (Zippers) evidently do not have a resolution for this problem, and you sure as hell can't get any customer service from them.   Another issue that I had with this motor was pinging in warm/hot weather.  Took it to a ThunderMax tuner last summer and he was able to tune it out with some minor tweaking of the ThunderMax.  Others on this site with Zippers motors have had pinging and have not been able to get it tuned out.  It also uses oil...about 1/2 quart per 500 miles, which for me is excessive because I take long trips with this bike and have to pack oil for the trip.  I'll probably have it torn down next winter (if it lasts that long) to see what it will take to have that fixed.  Always something...
In hindsight, I wish that I had stayed with the 103 motor that I had built...it was trouble free.  I spent 5k to gain 10-12 hp/tq. and got a motor that pings and uses oil.  IMO, Zippers sucks...

They have had a lot of problems with customer service. A lot of people have known this for a couple of years now. They are friends of mine (or so I thought) and I can't get any customer service. You can call and leave all of the messages you want. I even sent E mails to try to get some resolve. It doesn't happen. And I promise they will not even try to defend themselfs on a public forum. They will pick and choose a fight and only if they can win. It is a shame because they do good work. The Thunder Max is years ahead of its time. But it still has a few bugs.

JK I was glad to see you got on here and posted a reply to the problem with the turn signals.

Good luck to everyone.

Be Safe

THE DAWG 

[SCRM-R]

They have had a lot of problems with customer service. A lot of people have known this for a couple of years now. They are friends of mine (or so I thought) and I can't get any customer service. You can call and leave all of the messages you want. I even sent E mails to try to get some resolve. It doesn't happen. And I promise they will not even try to defend themselfs on a public forum. They will pick and choose a fight and only if they can win. It is a shame because they do good work. The Thunder Max is years ahead of its time. But it still has a few bugs.

JK I was glad to see you got on here and posted a reply to the problem with the turn signals.

Good luck to everyone.

Be Safe

THE DAWG 

Well, service after the sale is key with me...always has been.  There are too many options out there today from vendors with great service.  Zippers won't get any more of my money, and that's a fact.  Sad thing is, I don't think that Zippers Gives a Chit either.

Good luck with your build Chris...maybe you will be one of the lucky ones.  Because if it don't work right, I'll bet that you won't get them to respond to your problems.

[iski]

Well, service after the sale is key with me...always has been.  There are too many options out there today from vendors with great service.  Zippers won't get any more of my money, and that's a fact.  Sad thing is, I don't think that Zippers Gives a Chit either.

Good luck with your build Chris...maybe you will be one of the lucky ones.  Because if it don't work right, I'll bet that you won't get them to respond to your problems.

Your comments on T-Max ECM & service issues are what I hear from other sources as well.  Darn good numbers.  Are you planning to stay with the T-Max ECM?

[Twolanerider]

  IMO, Zippers sucks...

Sorry to read this SCRM.  My experiences were similar.  Unzipped my motor this past winter to be done with all the many problems with their poor machine work and the nonexistent consumer relations and support.

They finally made the big catalogs some time ago.  They are all but guaranteed sales.  They don't need to screw with us poor little whining individual buyers anymore.  So they just don't give a chit; and they act like it.

[Black Diamond]

SCRM-R

That is one outstanding motor if you can work out the bugs. Should have all the parts for my 117 at the shop by the 25th. After looking your package over, I can't wait to see how mine comes out.  Good luck with her.

JW

[SCRM-R]

Your comments on T-Max ECM & service issues are what I hear from other sources as well.  Darn good numbers.  Are you planning to stay with the T-Max ECM?

Yeah, I intend to stay with the T-Max for now, primarily because I don't have any confidence that anyone near me can give me a really good tune with the SERT.  I will say this for the T-Max...running it is the only method that I have seen where I don't get decel popping with the Rineharts...and that is one good thing about it.  I've just learned to manually cancel the turn signals...no real biggie there, just an aggravation, that's all.

[SCRM-R]

SCRM-R

That is one outstanding motor if you can work out the bugs. Should have all the parts for my 117 at the shop by the 25th. After looking your package over, I can't wait to see how mine comes out.  Good luck with her.

JW

Thanks, it is fun to ride.  I'll get the bugs worked out of it.  One of our site members has a shop not far away from me and I'm considering taking to him in a few months for a little tweaking.  We'll see...