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[flhtcuse8]

Hi people. I know there has been topics about this before, but a bit old. I want to give this problem a new start.
I am living i Norway så pardon my english. I bought a 2013 CVO flhtcuse8. A great bike in so many ways. Only been run hot a few times with minimum milage. That the bike industry has not discovered bluetooth yet is one drawback, but what the hell. I can do without a stupid cell-call when driving my Harley.
Well the real problem with this bike is the front brake. I have allready changed one brake-disk and the pulsation got less for a short while. Now it is back again and is pulsating so bad that I am afraid of braking arround corners in wet conditions. And it is not very comfortable on a tretch either. The dealer tried it and said it was normal??
The bike still has a guarantee on it, and I think they are just afraid of the cost here. They admited having gotten a lot of questions about this from other customers. Wash the disk with strong dissolution fluid thay say. I have tried, but without the expected result.
What about you guys? Having the same problem? It is of course impossible to get in contat with HD people further up the ladder about this, so when the dealer says it´s ok, you´r actually just screwed Is that how it works?
This is such a pitty. Robbing me of much of the pleasure of riding this very butefull, well handeled and expensive bike.

[Twolanerider]

If not the rotor have to consider the wheel.

[JCZ]

I also have a 2013 CVO Ultra Classic. 

There is a bit of "pulsing" in the front braking.  I noticed this first on my 2010 CVO Street Glide and believe it's related to the ABS system.  Not a concern....I've just kind of learned to live with it.  It's a bit more pronounced on my 13 Ultra Classic but still not a concern.

I had the warped rotor on my SEEG and it was much more pronounced pulsating.  It didn't have ABS brakes and so without the warped rotor I never had any pulsing on the SEEG or any of my bikes before the 10 SESG.

You can get a second opinion from another dealership if there's one within your riding distance.  Other than that, you can take your bike to an independant Harley shop just to get another opinion or have somebody else that has ABS brakes ride it and see what they think.

By the way, bluetooth....I ride with a Nolan helmet with bluetooth.  However, on several occassions it will come across my stereo head unit that I have an incoming call and shows on the screen who it is calling.  I'm not sure how that's happening since I don't have my helmet paired to my new phone yet.  Not sure I will.....I don't have the bluetooth for phone calls, I use it for wireless intercom.  But I believe our bikes must have bluetooth compatability if you're plugged in to the bike through your helmet and have your phoen paired to the bike.

[CVODON]

I had a 09 SERG and now a 15 RGCVO and neither one has ANY pulsing in the front, or rear for that matter and both have ABS, the ABS pump failed on my 09 before warranty went out and still no pulsing, just very high lever pressure. I use front brake constantly, rear brake only for panic or slow moving traffic. You, in my opinion my friend have a problem.

[Twolanerider]

I had a 09 SERG and now a 15 RGCVO and neither one has ANY pulsing in the front, or rear for that matter and both have ABS, the ABS pump failed on my 09 before warranty went out and still no pulsing, just very high lever pressure. I use front brake constantly, rear brake only for panic or slow moving traffic. You, in my opinion my friend have a problem.

Yes, properly functioning ABS in no way causes any "pulsing" in regular braking.

[flhtcuse8]

Thank you people. Just to clarify since I am from a country far away... When you say "rotor", you do of course mean the disk itself mounted on the wheel? Stupid question since it is the only thing rotating, but just to be sure.
Well, I have to agree with CVODON. I do not think this is normal. When braking wery light, slowly slowing down I can feel how the pads are "taking" and not "taking" on different places on the rotor in a consistant pattern. If I brake harder I can see the fork hopping up and down. I also have many friends with other big touring bikes (not HD) also with ABS. Non of them are reporting anything like this. The dealer said that I needed to brake really hard from time to time to make any layer of dirt on the rotor disapearing. Have tried that without any effect.
I will try to get second opinions from other dealers and take it from there. I just thought it was a good idea to get some statements from you "out there". It can be usefull to slap on the table that other people with similar bikes do not have this problem. So come on people. If you are driving a relatively new bike with the "floting disk/rotor" and do not have this problem please tell me.

[RedMoon]

Hi people. I know there has been topics about this before, but a bit old. I want to give this problem a new start.
I am living i Norway så pardon my english. I bought a 2013 CVO flhtcuse8. A great bike in so many ways. Only been run hot a few times with minimum milage. That the bike industry has not discovered bluetooth yet is one drawback, but what the hell. I can do without a stupid cell-call when driving my Harley.
Well the real problem with this bike is the front brake. I have allready changed one brake-disk and the pulsation got less for a short while. Now it is back again and is pulsating so bad that I am afraid of braking arround corners in wet conditions. And it is not very comfortable on a tretch either. The dealer tried it and said it was normal??
The bike still has a guarantee on it, and I think they are just afraid of the cost here. They admited having gotten a lot of questions about this from other customers. Wash the disk with strong dissolution fluid thay say. I have tried, but without the expected result.
What about you guys? Having the same problem? It is of course impossible to get in contat with HD people further up the ladder about this, so when the dealer says it´s ok, you´r actually just screwed Is that how it works?
This is such a pitty. Robbing me of much of the pleasure of riding this very butefull, well handeled and expensive bike.

Pulsating front brakes
www.v-twinforum.com/forums/wheels-tires-brakes-suspension/111991-pulsating-front-brakes.html
www.v-twinforum.com/forums/wheels-tires-brakes-suspension/245762-pulsating-front-brake-2012-ultra-limited.html

[Twolanerider]

Thank you people. Just to clarify since I am from a country far away... When you say "rotor", you do of course mean the disk itself mounted on the wheel? Stupid question since it is the only thing rotating, but just to be sure.
Well, I have to agree with CVODON. I do not think this is normal. When braking wery light, slowly slowing down I can feel how the pads are "taking" and not "taking" on different places on the rotor in a consistant pattern. If I brake harder I can see the fork hopping up and down. I also have many friends with other big touring bikes (not HD) also with ABS. Non of them are reporting anything like this. The dealer said that I needed to brake really hard from time to time to make any layer of dirt on the rotor disapearing. Have tried that without any effect.
I will try to get second opinions from other dealers and take it from there. I just thought it was a good idea to get some statements from you "out there". It can be usefull to slap on the table that other people with similar bikes do not have this problem. So come on people. If you are driving a relatively new bike with the "floting disk/rotor" and do not have this problem please tell me.

Yes, the rotor is the flat rotating disc.  If that disc's rotating surface isn't true or smooth (trying to come up with words for a non-english speaker here) or if it has wobble you will feel what you are feeling.

That wobble or eccentric movement is what you feel against the brake pads.  This movement could come from either a problem with the rotor or a problem with the wheel.  The suggestion from you dealer that the rotor needs to be regularly cleaned by hard braking is nonsense.  That is a dealer to avoid if you have any other options.

[CVODON]

I in reading this noticed that one person felt it is normal for ABS to have pulses. This is incorrect, if your bike is doing this you should either check it yourself or have a shop. Also if the forks are bouncing up & down as described, the rotors are major warped. If under warranty they should be covered, I had a couple that were covered. But if not under warranty and you are buying them yourself give some thought to full floating rotors, they are smoother due to nature of mounting and much more tolerant to heat from heavy use.

[Keats]

I am buying the warped rotor story. ABS should not be doing that unless very hard stop.

The solution in my mind is to replace both pads and rotors. I think a wheel issue would manifest in other areas, not just braking.

but , what do I know?

[CVODON]

I bought a set of Renegade wheels/rotors and Metzler tires as a package deal for my 05 SEEG. Looked fantastic but shook violently when you put brakes on, First they replaced the rotors, then they replaced the rotors, then they replaced the rotors again. I would set up dial indicator and rotate wheel and rotor was not concentric. Third time I checked the hub, Hub was problem all along, They replaced hub's and all was good, then I warped the rotors by heavy use, this time they gave me a set of full-floaters and all was good. Never had anymore problems at all. Renegade was excellent about all this, them in CA and me in FL. They paid all shipping, sent pick-up tags for the old stuff, just first class. And it was there fault but we have all had companies who's products fail and they want to be argumentative about it. But not Chuck at Renegade.
Point of this rambling is, I feel your pulsating pain, it sucks!

[ultra98]

Hi i had the same problem like some of you feels like pads taking and not taking but i repack the master cylinder and the problem was gone

[2bodie2]

2013 SE08 Ultra.. applying front brake it was shuttering bad at hwy speeds and slow pulses coming to stop.  It was speed dependent.  Complained enough and they changed with new rotors and cleaned the caliper slide pins and new pads.  The calipers were not compensating for rotor runout at .005"  After that was done to both fronts its as smooth as ever.

[VANAMAL]

Try to borrow a indicater Jack it up check wheel and rotor. You could buy a cheapy if need be. New rotors and pads shouldnt cost too much if needed

[snowrider13]

Same problem with my 2013. Dealer says things OK. Problem seems worst after a long ride with no brake usage. (highway). If I "pump" the brakes several times to set the pads it does not do it. I can't explain why, and do think it is not correct, but my belief is it has to do with the ABS. Know of people that have changed rotors multiple times to no avail. I did clean calibers and bleed, it helped some, but returned.