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Re: Octane ?
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2015, 12:45:56 PM »

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I agree on the Ethanol.  I know we can't discuss politics, but hopefully its OK to recommend that we contact our elected officials and point out that the reduction in performance and mileage, combined with the added energy required for production and transportation of Ethanol fuel is counterproductive to the desired out come.
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Re: Octane ?
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2015, 02:58:42 PM »

Here in Perth Western Australia myself and most of my riding mates ( sorry "buddies" ) use 98 Octane fuel

At the "servo" AKA "gas station" we can buy 91 / 95 / 98 octane

All Australian petrol sold in Australia for over 10 years now is unleaded

I'm wondering if the Octane rating system here in Australia is the same as the US ?

wow...You guys must drive some high compression rigs downunder....cheers!!
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Re: Octane ?
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2015, 03:32:17 PM »

Here in Perth Western Australia myself and most of my riding mates ( sorry "buddies" ) use 98 Octane fuel

At the "servo" AKA "gas station" we can buy 91 / 95 / 98 octane

All Australian petrol sold in Australia for over 10 years now is unleaded

I'm wondering if the Octane rating system here in Australia is the same as the US ?

In the US we use a composite number made up of the average of the results of two different tests.  One is the research method, and the other is the motor method.  So the US system is (R+M/2).  Before this system was adopted, the US just used the RON (Research Octane Number) value, and back then premium was around 98-100 octane.  Now the same fuel would be closer to 91-93 under the current system.  I'm 99% certain Australia still uses the old RON system, as do most countries outside of the USA and Canada.

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Re: Octane ?
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2015, 03:48:37 PM »

As you know, octane is how we measure the fuel's resistance to igniting too early--before the spark hits it--causing problems that range from knocking (aka pinging) to burning a hole in the piston to trying to make the engine run backward.  So real damage can occur.  BUT modern engine control systems (ECM) have knock sensors to detect the problem, and when it happens, the ECM takes steps to reduce it.  When it does, you usually are going to have less power available.

If you are in a situation where you need the power, such as passing uphill, and can't afford to roll off or have the engine deliver less power...

Several answers here I agree with but this one I really relate to:

There was a woman in town that bought a new Corvette all most every 18-24 months, which was several years ago.  One day I noticed she was parked at the station with the cheapest gas, soon after her first purchase.  I had a connection with the Dlrshp that sold the cars.  Every Corvette she owned was having engine problems.  Usually burning up coils.  If I remember correctly 2 ? cyl per coil back then.  The ECM as you have figured out, compensated for the crap and that was the result.  Are they much different today ? maybe ! 

Stick the key in and drive, when you have a problem read the owners manual, seems to be the American way. 

Wife just got a 2015 VW Golf, manual looks like a cut down phone book, and thinner pages to get it in the glove box.  Flashing the ECM will pick up as much as 50% more HP from the 170 out of the box. But you can't  guarantee the # of octane you're paying for, so flashing may take a down side.....J
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Re: Octane ?
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2015, 07:18:06 PM »


I'm 99% certain Australia still uses the old RON system, as do most countries outside of the USA and Canada.



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