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113" vs VROD
« on: July 23, 2015, 01:52:16 PM »

 I work with a guy that has 2005 Vrod,low miles, stock.  I have 2012 FLHXSE3 with new 113" S&S crank, Tman 662, buid was to be  around 130 hp. and  torque.   Still needs to be dialed in and  Dynoed .    He walks around pounding his chest all day  and saying he can beat anyone in race to top end.   So if  he and I are equal  weights, same riding skills,and  any other variable the same, Who wins a race to Top speed  or Drag? :drummer:   Loser will buy a lot of  Drinks and Food for the  day.
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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2015, 02:49:37 PM »

He will beat you on top end or anything over a quarter mile,but you will smoke him for  up to 3 blocks.I have had 3 vrods all 1250 cc  and 4 110 cvo's built up to 118 tq  .The vrod weighs less and you cant beat them up all day long and they do not break.On the cvo's bilt with big tq and Hp you will be breaking things.Race him for two blocks for a beer and bragging rights.
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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2015, 02:57:18 PM »

Bummer but Thanks
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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2015, 04:40:04 PM »

Obviously he hasn't come up against any of the current liter bikes, that v rod would never have a chance. Stock v rods run 12.5 second quarters and there are currently 15 production stock bikes that run under 10 seconds. If you ever watched a drag race 2.5 seconds is an eternity!
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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2015, 05:49:36 PM »

ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT!!!!IF you are gon'a race....you cant be afraid to lose, always going to be someone faster.
Seriously though depends on the race, stop light to stop light, you pull him on the low end, if you go more than 1/4 mile he may reel you in. 2nd gear roll on, I would think you still would have the bottom end advantage.
Most street races the outcome has more to do with riders ability, launch, shift ect, than HP of the bike.  Let us know the outcome!!!
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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2015, 06:02:51 PM »

My money would be on the V-rod. I dragged a guy from a rolling stop once. He had a "built motor" i just played with him staying a half a bike length ahead the whole time.
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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2015, 06:47:37 PM »

My money would be on the V-rod. I dragged a guy from a rolling stop once. He had a "built motor" i just played with him staying a half a bike length ahead the whole time.

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I have had 3 V-Rods 2 built and a Destroyer and 5-6 built CVO twin cams.

IN MY EXPERIENCE--the V-rod will eat up a built twin cam every time.

It is important to remember that the rev limiter kicks in at 5250 rpm on stock Twin Cams and possibly 6250 for those who live on the edge. The V-Rod has a 9250 stock rev limiter and can be upped to over 10000 if the motor is built.

So a built twin will be shifting thru the gears to take advantage of the optimum torque on the edge of the rev limiter and the V-Rod still has 4 grand to go stock in each gear and 5 grand or so in a built V-Rod.

A "roll on"  race from 2nd - 6th gear for the twin and 5th gear for the V-Rod would be the best test up to say 100mph for safety reasons.


In the past, I have occasionally raced built twins with my built V-Rod from a standing start and they don't have a chance out of the hole either. (built vs built)

I happen to like both V-Rods (old version) and CVO Street Glides my current and favorite ride in my senior years  ;D   

Both bikes are purpose built and work very well for their intended purpose.


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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2015, 08:11:57 PM »

My son rides my stock Vrod against my built Road Glide and smokes my ass every time . 135 mph top speed on the V and 120 on the RG... Hole Shot and top end!! V Rod wins ...
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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2015, 11:11:17 PM »

A friend doing a stint as The Service Manager at the local dealer had a V-Rod set up for 11.00sec bracket racing, we went riding a few times, a first gear roll on from about 5 mph, my '01 Switchblade (pissed off 103, SE 6sp, underdriven primary) would pull the V-Rod 3-4 bike lengths all the way through the gears, then the V-Rod would pass me about 15-20 feet from the end of the 1/4 with a 6-8 mph greater trap speed...

He used to say; "I got this thing set up to trap at 130(mph), she won't do 131."
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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2015, 09:31:59 PM »

Ive only been pulled by one harley for 2 blocks on my cvo v-rod and he had a built s&s 124  putting out  130 hp and 138tq  he had it in a sleeper wide glide except the wheelie bars and the air shifter raced him 3 times and he smoked me by 4 bike links every time  for about 3 blocks and than I caught up and passed him.but every time we raced he had to c fix this and fix that and all I had to do  was turn the key on and off.I raced at an 1/8 of mile track and got smoked by the hyabusas  and zx14 ningas ,but they all new my harley looked better But the v-rod is the fastest Harley out there.I promise My night rod with me on it racing my brother with him being on my cvo street glide.The Vrod wins,We switch bikes and the v-rod still wins.And you don't even want to a roll on start against a v-rod ,So if you do race him  do a stand still start and race for two blocks and let your 130tq pull his 78tq ,after that he will catch up and pass you.I found out the easy way.If you want to race dont' wate your money on  Harley.when you can go by a Hyabusa or Ninga for what you would put into  a harley motor and have a bike you can beat to death and only have to buy new tires and maybe  a clutch.Where a Hot rod Harley will be breaking  parts every few races.
 
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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2015, 10:26:00 AM »

Now I am a fan of the Vrods....  It would be a fun race.  I know you said his was stock and hopefully for you it is.  If he can launch it at 6K (with a 28 tooth or 30 tooth sprocket), you will have your hands full.  If he has a 26 tooth and it has been tuned, just buy him his beer.  One way to stack the deck in your favor is to have him line up with you doing a fourth gear roll on.  To match speeds with you, his RPMs will be extremely low giving you time to grab 3-4 bike links.

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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2015, 04:49:42 PM »

Had a discussion with a V-Rod owner at a charity ride and he was complementing me on how fast my little Fatbob is and I thanked him but acknowledged that his Rod is faster. After all the azz kissing we both agreed that the Rod is a quick harley but that is no big deal to beat a big heavy air cooled low rpm V twin. It really is more of a sport bike but will run with none of the real sport bikes.

What is the top end on this things anyways?
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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2015, 05:08:02 PM »

Had a discussion with a V-Rod owner at a charity ride and he was complementing me on how fast my little Fatbob is and I thanked him but acknowledged that his Rod is faster. After all the azz kissing we both agreed that the Rod is a quick harley but that is no big deal to beat a big heavy air cooled low rpm V twin. It really is more of a sport bike but will run with none of the real sport bikes.

What is the top end on this things anyways?

Well a built V-Rod will most definitely run with the metrics. I ran a Busa and a Kawi on more than one occasion and could stay with them up into the mid triple digits.  I DID NOT like doing that kind of riding in the wrong place and above 130-140.  The bike could go higher but I chose not to. 

Unless you wrappped the V-Rod in a similiar fairing, the upper speeds make the bike too loose for my personal taste. Also, I am not positive what the speed rating on the tires were so I erred on the side of caution.

The same issues were experienced on the Destroyer at the track.  Many who raced these bikes added steering dampeners to aid in high speed stabilization.

You sit essentially upright on the V-Rod with your feet forward on the A and B models and essentially under you on all but the Destroyer where your feet were placed behind you on pegs welded on the swing arm.

The metrics in comparison are designed for high speed rider comfort.

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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2015, 05:18:15 PM »

Get a S&S 100" Sportster motor, proper gearing, exhaust and modify your frame to make it fit and you will eat the VRODs.
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Re: 113" vs VROD
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2015, 06:19:00 PM »

Get a S&S 100" Sportster motor, proper gearing, exhaust and modify your frame to make it fit and you will eat the VRODs.


Just curious. Do you think you can get that 100" Sportster in the high 8's to low 9's and mid to upper130's in the quarter mile?

Please remember this thread was started about stock for stock and slightly built for slightly built.
You upped the bar with your proposal but in my assessment you can still get your spanking. 😃😃
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