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[Twolanerider]

The BEPR Child Restrain System  

www.beprsystem.com

 

 

Had seen that one before Jim.  It's good to see people actually offering products to address this.  First reaction is a preference for the other one though.  Since it connects both high and low you'd know sooner when the kid dozed off and started to lean a bit.

[rubaga]

Glad to find this thread.  Was about to ask since what age did you take your kids for a ride with you.

My son who is 10 yo asks me all the time to go with me.  I am thinking of starting to ride with him a bit around town.

Do not think of buying the strap - he rides a moto cross bike so can not be considered a complete novice. Also I will be driving with him on my Ultra which has good side support on the back seat. would be interesting to know if he would see anything (due to the back seat being much higher then the drivers seat).

Thinking of buying full face helmet and setting him up on intercom so that we can chat.

Any comments welcome.

[RJ749]

My wife falls asleep back there sometimes.  The Ultra definitely helps hold the passenger in.

I am pretty sure Canuck said Sue sleeps back there all the time too.

[cuthbertss]

i have taken my kids out on the  SEEG and on my RK....
no issues in either case ( they were 9 and 14 when i started..)
but these things are cool for the littlies....
my daughter fancies  herself quite the biker chick...

[VaEagle]

Nice photo of you little biker lady there cuthbertss. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

I think some of the products above have a place in riding. The article also brought up good points about proper type and size of riding apparel for your passenger.
I think one area where I question a passenger riding is when they can't reach the foot pegs or boards. If a child is too small that they can't reach them then maybe a mod needs to be done to the bike or they need to wait until they fit properly.
Just imagine if you had to ride back there and your feet could not reach, would you wiggle around? Would the chance that your feet geting into the back wheel or on a hot exhaust increase? Even avoiding dangerious parts how comfortable is it to sit with your legs dangling and for how long?
So for me I would choose to make sure the rider can fit properly on the bike,was wearing full protective gear and knew how to be a "good passenger" before we ever took off. Then I would do my best to ride defensively and try to avoid problems. But if I felt the need to provide a strap system for the rider I would prefer to have a strap going from me to them, maybe with handholds for them as opposed to straping them to the bike. I know neither situation is a good one but I would rather have a passenger attached to me (I would try to take the brunt of the impact or abrasion if possible) as opposed to them staying with an out of control bike. I do realize that in a crash you do loose all control and it happens in a micro-second.
Lots of food for thought on this topic by everyone. 8-)

[harleyteam]

When my children were young, I used the best restraint ever invented.

THE BABYSITTER

when they got a little older and wanted to go for a ride,  as long as they could touch the pedals and agreed to hold me around the waist,  I took them for short rides. my daughter was born mentally handicapped,  and has been riding with me for years.  she's 33 now  and rides like she was born on the back seat.

[Twolanerider]

My wife falls asleep back there sometimes.  The Ultra definitely helps hold the passenger in.

I am pretty sure Canuck said Sue sleeps back there all the time too.

Used to have a girlfriend that was terrible about that.  Had a Heritage then so something like the King pak with the arm rests to keep someone inboard wasn't an option.  Would be going along and suddenly "boink."  Passenger helmet bouncing off my head or helmet.  Her finally being sent packing was at least partially resultant from not being happy about being told she just couldn't ride anymore.  It is freaky knowing someone might just be flopping around back there.

[Twolanerider]

I think one area where I question a passenger riding is when they can't reach the foot pegs or boards. If a child is too small that they can't reach them then maybe a mod needs to be done to the bike or they need to wait until they fit properly.

When my niece was real little the only thing she could possibly reach was the top of the saddlebags.  Then she was only riding in the yard or on trails in the park though.  So we just made sure she was in socks with nothing on the bottom to scratch the bags.

At around 3 she started riding around town, picked up from pre-school, that kind of stuff.  Then just took an old pair of my sneakers, but the backs out and had a leather shop stitch through the soles to attach some heavy duty velcro bands.  Use that for a "detachable" attachment of the sneakers to the rear bars.  Then the kid can just slide her little shoes right inside the front end of the sneakers.  It works quite well actually.  She's growing so fast though the kid just keeps getting longer and longer.  So eventually some new option might have to be developed.

[twincam]

Hey Robert-flhrsei, check your pm's

[RJ749]

Used to have a girlfriend that was terrible about that.  Had a Heritage then so something like the King pak with the arm rests to keep someone inboard wasn't an option.  Would be going along and suddenly "boink."  Passenger helmet bouncing off my head or helmet.  Her finally being sent packing was at least partially resultant from not being happy about being told she just couldn't ride anymore.  It is freaky knowing someone might just be flopping around back there.

That's how I figured out that she was sleeping, mostly long road rides, like the Interstate, but have to slow or brake quickly.......boink, Hey, what the hell you doin' back there (intercom) uhh, guess I fell asleep.  Before or after you finished your latte?  Before....but I didn't spill any

Geez, what the hell.  It's considered her bike and she'll let me do anything I want to it, just like...................TMI

Thank goodness she's a leightweight, my fat arse seems to handle it and I actually never really know if she's asleep unless I get the helmet boink.

[Twolanerider]

That's how I figured out that she was sleeping, mostly long road rides, like the Interstate, but have to slow or brake quickly.......boink, Hey, what the hell you doin' back there (intercom) uhh, guess I fell asleep.  Before or after you finished your latte?  Before....but I didn't spill any

Geez, what the hell.  It's considered her bike and she'll let me do anything I want to it, just like...................TMI

Thank goodness she's a leightweight, my fat arse seems to handle it and I actually never really know if she's asleep unless I get the helmet boink.

Have had a couple other passengers also do much the same Rog.  But they always seemed to only have teh forward and back thing going on.  Renea was just all over the place though.  You'd look back in the rear view mirror and see her head and shoulder leaned over bobbing one way and then the other.  The first time I knew it was happening was because I actually felt it in the bike.  It was wanting to go toward the shoulder ever so slightly.  Thought for a moment had a back tire starting to go down or something.  Instead was just a brunette down and out and leaning to starboard.  As a passenger on a motorcycle she really was a Ralph Nadar woman; unsafe at any speed.

[ccr]

I'm so sorry I never got the pics of it, but we saw a family at the VA State HOG rally last year who had jerry-rigged the arm rests on a tourpak to help hold the little ones from sliding side to side, guess with a driver in front and tour pak in back there was little chance for the front to back slippage - it looked real good. The wife's bike had double armrests (stacked vertically with a few inches in between) to give more coverage from the side to side slipping.  I always say that a family who rides together, stays together.  

[VaEagle]

As far as spouses or girlfriend's falling asleep on the back and then you get the helmet bonk,

I always heard that refered to as "turtle sex."  [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

[UltraPolecat]

Damn!  That even sounds unnerving!

I have never heard about a passenger falling off before (except one riding on a fender pad, drunk once).

Guess its ok if you live to tell about it....SHEESH! [smiley=nervous.gif]

[rubaga]

As far as spouses or girlfriend's falling asleep on the back and then you get the helmet bonk,

I always heard that refered to as "turtle sex."  [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

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