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[Zee110]

With my oil temp high early this summer 295 degrees ,on another thread earlier, had the bike retuned and left for a week trip, stopped to get a oil leak fixed on the external oil lines which I am not a big fan of. First time I get caught in  stop and go traffic with my bike since engine swap it hits 305 degrees starts pushing blue smoke out the pipes and I mean a lot of blue !!!! called the dealer, let the bike cool, and turned around and went back , bike was still smoking when I got back, oil was black ,dumped it out and put in syn 60 wt for the first time . We made our trip hitting temps of 275 -280 but I could smell burning oil on decel on our trip, used about 1/2 to 3/4 of a liter of oil on our trip , about 1500 miles . Not very happy with my bike at all ,now only 3000 miles on this motor and have to rebuild it already     What could be wrong causing my heat issues ? All ready had the cam plate bushing issues so is something else not put together right !!!!  Monday or Friday motor ? 

[hdguy1]

I had the same problem on my 2012 SESG before and it was the crankshaft. Hopefully the dealer can figure it out for you.

[prodrag1320]

S&S 124" crate motor?

[RayG]

Can you give us more info on your 124"?  when was it installed and how did it run after the install?  Was the tune acceptable?  I have a 124 with the external lines and I rarely get the bike over 225 degrees.  I have heard of others that own a crate 124 and saw no benefit to any oil coolers on the market.  Something is not right.  Hope you get it straightened out and running right. 

[MrSurly]

Following this

[Zee110]

Yes it is a 124 LC crate motor . I had it installed last summer rode it 750 miles and started to develop a tic which was getting louder ,found out that was the cam plate bushing were over machined and that took the rest of the summer to get parts and repair . It ran warm 275 ish but took that just as a new tight motor . Got my bike back in October so riding season is over here . Do to work never got first ride in till June this year an it hit 294 not stop and go and not hot only about 80% ,took it back to dealer to check tune .Ran bike another 750 miles not stop and go still hitting 280-290 . Dumped out non syn and put in syn 60 wt temps dropped to 275-280 on this trip 1500 miles . Now my years warranty is up with no miles on this motor and something is not right !!!!!!!

[eddfive]

Does this bike have an oil cooler? I have had several bikes with a Thermostat that was not working or opening and the motor oil would get hot. Easy to test.

[Zee110]

Does this bike have an oil cooler? I have had several bikes with a Thermostat that was not working or opening and the motor oil would get hot. Easy to test.

Yes it is a 2011 CVO Ultra

[twinotter]

Just curious here! When you talk about a dealer, are you referring to an S&S dealer or a HD dealer?
Has anyone checked to make sure the oil lines are correctly installed? Is the engine sumping?
Sumping could cause excessive heat buildup.
 This crate engine, does it have the S&S exclusive gear type oil pump or is it the HD georotor type.
What type of tuner is on the bike? Who tuned it?
 A LC style motor properly tuned for a reasonable AFR, and not sumping, should run around 200 degrees, even on hot days.
There may be a couple of HD dealers out there that could tune this 124, but I've never seen one I would trust to tune a bicycle.
My carbed T124HC engine has never ran above 195 degrees on the highway, regardless of ambient temps (well over 100 degrees). I did see it get up to 235 one day on the bridge at the Sioux, sitting in traffic for almost 2hrs. It takes 20-30 miles at highway speeds to get oil temps to 190 on 90 degree days.
You need to find a competent tuner, and someone who understands sumping and the S&S systems.
 fwiw  twinotter

[Zee110]

Just curious here! When you talk about a dealer, are you referring to an S&S dealer or a HD dealer?
Has anyone checked to make sure the oil lines are correctly installed? Is the engine sumping?
Sumping could cause excessive heat buildup.
 This crate engine, does it have the S&S exclusive gear type oil pump or is it the HD georotor type.
What type of tuner is on the bike? Who tuned it?
 A LC style motor properly tuned for a reasonable AFR, and not sumping, should run around 200 degrees, even on hot days.
There may be a couple of HD dealers out there that could tune this 124, but I've never seen one I would trust to tune a bicycle.
My carbed T124HC engine has never ran above 195 degrees on the highway, regardless of ambient temps (well over 100 degrees). I did see it get up to 235 one day on the bridge at the Sioux, sitting in traffic for almost 2hrs. It takes 20-30 miles at highway speeds to get oil temps to 190 on 90 degree days.
You need to find a competent tuner, and someone who understands sumping and the S&S systems.
 fwiw  twinotter

It is a S&S dealer  I am assuming they know what they are doing . It was a create motor so it should be and S&S oil pump. It has a TTS tuner . It was tuned by a reputable tuner which I am not going to mention any names at this point . Not sticking up for these guys just want all the facts first.

[RayG]

There is something wrong,  twinotter covered most of what I was hinting at.  I have the new 124HC crate motor with the 640 cams with the 66mm throttle body and the temps run way lower than yours.  I just had it tuned with a TTS yesterday because it was running rich so it may get a bit warmer but I still stay around 225.  I have not had much luck working with the S&S Technical Support group.  I needed gaskets and spacers that were needed to stop an intake leak.  After 3 tries they still got it wrong,  made my own back-plate gasket because I was out of time.  There are some knowledgeable vendors on this site.  I know they helped me out when I needed something to happen at S&S last spring.   Sometimes just finding the right person can make a world of difference,  hope you find what you need, I understand your frustration.   

[FlaHeatWave]

Seems like your S&S Dealer should make it right...

[johnsachs]

S&S dealer, Harley dealer, just because they have the shingle doesn't mean they know. I've seen dealers that I wouldn't let put an axle in a wheel barrow,,,,,, 
John

[prodrag1320]

I agree.Just because their a s&s dealer,don't mean squat.We do a lot of 124's here.not a problem from s&s yet

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[prodrag1320]

No parts problem

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