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113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« on: September 10, 2015, 06:12:29 PM »

I have a 2010 cvo street glide the only thing done to it now is v&h header pipe with rinehart mufflers using a power vision to tune. I'm looking to do a 113 build and the reason being is that when I down shift hard and come to a stop I get a burning oil odor. The engine itself has no leaks I'm leaning towards rings or valve guide.  This is my plan so far.
Bore cylinders
Flat top pistons
Head worked over with the bigger intake valve
Adjustable pushrods ( who's do u recommend)
Cams thinking of the kuryakyn 25d
I live in chicago so low power is good.
All machine work is being done by HD street performance
Any advice will be helpful. Thanks in advance
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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2015, 06:58:05 PM »

I have few thousand miles on my 113 build  I like woods stuff
how that being said I would go with what your builder recommendS and ask to see some  dyno sheets etc
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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2015, 07:20:19 PM »

 Living where you do several good options come to mind (both north of you) including Suburban Speed Shop and Fuel Moto both had have tried and tested kits available and employ folks with the skill sets to do the job right.

http://www.suburbanharley.com/--twin_cam

http://www.fuelmotousa.com/p-28394-power-packages.html

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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2015, 09:21:19 PM »

Valve guides, I imagine.  How's your oil consumption?
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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2015, 09:55:22 PM »

Not horrible the bike does have 26k. The big reason for cams is it does run pretty hot and being in chicago with traffic can get bad
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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2015, 11:20:00 PM »

Be careful not to fall into the trap of a bigger build= higher compression= higher heat and more temperamental.Especially if you are spending a lot of time sitting in traffic, which you indicate that you do.

Sounds like you are thinking since you have oil consumption you want to pull the heads and freshen some parts up. Good idea because these engines are known to burn oil because of cylinders that go out of round and poor piston rings, plus some argue full synthetic oil adds to this.

Another option is to keep it a 110 and add mild cams and maybe just a thinner head gasket to bump the compression a bit but keep it under 10:1. That plus a good exhaust, and a great tune. While you are doing that, refresh the valve guides, umbrella breather valves, lifters, etc. You will end up with a much better and cooler running engine.

Having said that, since you plan to go to a reputable shop, get their opinion on what you need to do to accomplish your goals.
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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2015, 05:28:31 AM »

I'm a big fan of the T-Man 625s, they come early and stay late, relatively quiet.

GMR seems to be doing a good bit of 113s these days and has the combinations figured out...

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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2015, 07:08:19 AM »

Thanks guys for the input. My builder suggested the kuryakyn 24d but it seems they are discontinuing them and going with the 25d. Looks like it was specifically designed for the 110. But wasn't sure if it was a good choice for the build I want to do. I see alot of people like the gmr 577 which looks real good. But they have there new 600 which I can't find much info on. I went to there website and it doesn't show much at all everything says coming soon. Since I do get stuck in traffic from time to time I went ahead and bought an oil bud oil cooler.
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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2015, 07:16:49 AM »

"is that when I down shift hard "

If you have a habit of doing that...stop. Can shift the flywheels. Might consider rebuilding or replacing the lower end while it's apart.
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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2015, 07:58:25 AM »

I only do it when I need to. Seems like stop lights like to change as I'm coming up to them  ;D so instead of riding the brake hard I down shift and that's when I can smell the burning oil.
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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2015, 10:59:36 AM »

I will add that Don from HD Street Performance has been a big help in giving me info, I just don't want to keep calling him and bothering him with questions. i'm sure he's a very busy guy.
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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2015, 05:48:45 PM »

Thanks guys for the input. My builder suggested the kuryakyn 24d but it seems they are discontinuing them and going with the 25d. Looks like it was specifically designed for the 110. But wasn't sure if it was a good choice for the build I want to do. I see alot of people like the gmr 577 which looks real good. But they have there new 600 which I can't find much info on. I went to there website and it doesn't show much at all everything says coming soon. Since I do get stuck in traffic from time to time I went ahead and bought an oil bud oil cooler.
I have Gmr 577 in my cvo rk and I love this cam, (hp116/tq132) ... talked to Steve couple weeks ago about upgrading to 113'' and he said new cam 600 is performance cam and and best goes with his kit for 113''. There is a lot going in his kit and is bullet proven... but for now I have to work a lot of OT it costs a lot for my pocket....
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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2015, 06:07:34 PM »

20000 miles on my full gmr 113 build with 577 cams 121/128 still running great with good mileage and
runs cool
 only problem  third clutch and a few extra tires
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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2015, 06:24:14 PM »

10.0-1 &  S&S. 570 cams is a very nice 110 upgrade

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Re: 113 build, which cams or any advice at all
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2015, 12:53:22 AM »

I only do it when I need to. Seems like stop lights like to change as I'm coming up to them  ;D so instead of riding the brake hard I down shift and that's when I can smell the burning oil.
It's a lot easier and cheaper to change brake pads and rotors than to replace engine, clutch, and transmission components.  Just sayin.
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