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CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« on: November 15, 2015, 06:10:30 AM »

Link below goes back three year to when the bike first began having issues.

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=69708.msg966855#msg966855

I went with Woods 555 cam and lifters, S&S pushrods, new HD cam plate, hyd tensioner, oil pump and inner bearings. Scott Palmer from Hillside Cycles recommended I bump of the compression with that cam. I'm glad he did because when he received my heads he discovered the rear cylinder exhaust valve was bent and had been that way since day one. Almost 3/4 of the valve had never touched the seat. After I got the motor back together it sounded good and ran OK. Was picking up spark knock at 55 MPH. I now know the tuner I used didn't have a clue. He got it better but still wasn't right when I shipped the bike to Germany June 2012. In almost the three years I was in Europe I put 24k on the bike. Spark knock wasn't quite as bad. I think this was because of cooler temps and better gas. I had a lifter that was noisy when cold but it would quiet up after a few minutes. Didn't have the tools to do the work myself and wasn't about to pay outrageous prices German's charge. Plan was to correct it when I got back in the winter. I moved back this May. Bike showed up with the household goods in July. Had it back on the road immediately. Early October I was heading to Maggie Valley to meet a friend. Just outside Petersburg VA I began picking up a mild surge. Pulled over and heard a grinding noise. Got the bike towed to Colonial HD. They opened the cam compartment and found a trashed lifter. They immediately offered me $6500 for the bike when I mentioned I really liked the new RG. I told them I'd have to think about it. On the ride home I decided to take the bike to Hillside Cycle and have Scott repair it.

Result: 103 CVO motor with new cases, 583 gear drive cam, S&S lifters, Fueling cam plate, new oil pump, crank trued by Darkhorse Crankworks, Hillside stage 1 head work, intake opened to 50MM and tune done by Joe's Cycle Repair. Picked the bike up last weekend. Rode it to work most of this past week. What a difference!!! With OAT in the 50's, oil temp would always be in 230-240 range. The highest I've see so far is 218 with 70 OAT. The bike has never had the oil pressure it has now. Very little mechanical noise coming fro the motor. Has to be the quietest TC I've ever seen. Running Fullsac baffles in my stock CVO slip-ons. Stock header pipes have been jet hot coated inside and out. After looking at the attached dyno sheet you'll see why this bike is such a hoot to ride. A big shout out to Hillside Cycle and Joe's Cycle Repair. Thanks for the great work and getting it done in time for some late fall riding.
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Failed Lifter
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2015, 06:12:03 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2015, 06:13:20 AM »

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Re: CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2015, 07:37:11 AM »

Failed lifters can do a lot of damage, took out a great running motor in my bike several years ago. Hard on the wallet for sure. You should have a lot of enjoyable miles with that build.
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Re: CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2015, 02:17:59 PM »

Can't go wrong with hillside cycle , dark horse or Joe's
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Re: CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2015, 07:22:53 AM »

Jim,
Now you have some miles on that, how is that?
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Re: CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2015, 10:53:26 AM »

Scott...Haven't hit the 300 mile mark yet.  Between the weather and the holiday (was out of town for almost a week) the bike has been sitting in the garage with a battery tender attached.  Plan on taking it out this weekend and change the oil Sunday.
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Re: CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2015, 04:44:25 PM »

Give us a yell when you get some more miles on it, Jim. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: UPDATE CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2016, 07:25:30 AM »

I now have close to 2k miles on the motor.  Weather is finally nice enough to ride the bike to work every day (30 miles one way.)  Converted to Amsoil this week.  Couldn't be happier how the motor runs.  More than enough power and torque for me. Looking forward to June when the wife and I hit the road for a week with trailer in tow.

The only negative...can't get better than 33 MPG, and that's making sure I never go above 3k RPM on a tank. If it was bar hopper I wouldn't care.  But when you hit the road for a 600 mile trip and have to start looking for gas after 140 miles it gets old. 200 miles between fill ups is ideal for me.  Especially when travelling with riders who get mid to upper 40 MPG with some having 6 gallon tanks. I was hoping I'd see at least low 40's.  I have a few friends who ride baggers with motors significantly stronger than mine and get mid 40's with their spouse on the back. Curious to see what I get in June.
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Re: CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2016, 10:27:44 AM »

The motor is tuned too rich, drinking fuel and carboning up those big open chambers
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Re: CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2016, 10:41:01 AM »

I suspect the tune also. Go see HarleyTuner in Fredericksburg, Va. He'll get it right.
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Re: CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2016, 12:54:32 PM »

Check out Chad.....heard good things about his work and tunes.

http://www.wideopencycles.net/contact.html
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Re: CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2016, 01:25:37 PM »

As already said, might be a little rich. I get 37 with my 131 :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2016, 03:50:10 PM »

The motor is tuned too rich, drinking fuel and carboning up those big open chambers

Contacted Joe from Joe's Cycle Repair) a few weeks back. I downloaded DynoJet software and the tune.  Joe had me edit the tables.  No significant change.  Will contact him again in a week.
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Re: CVO 103 is FINALLY Right!
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2016, 04:51:50 PM »

What tuner did you use to tune the bike from Dynojet  PC5 or PowerVision.   Can you post your fuel tables or VE tables for the front and rear?
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