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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1500 on: May 08, 2018, 06:24:59 PM »

I noticed on the dyno graph that the run started about 2400 rpm, and it didn't see 100 TQ until 2700 rpm.  IIRC, with that cam, you should get 100 TQ about 2300 rpm (not to mention higher overall #).  Definitely something wrong there, as mentioned by others.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1501 on: May 08, 2018, 10:54:25 PM »

Would have to agree with the above post. Something isn't right with what the sheet says. As Harry said above, a quick compression check would be a really good place to start. That could tell you a lot.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1502 on: May 09, 2018, 08:37:40 AM »

Just got this email from the guy who is tuning my bike. I’m a little disappointed, actually a lot disappointed with the numbers. He said the same thing. I have a TTS tuner, Fullsac DX pipe, Fullsac 1-3/4 baffles, with Ventilator air cleaner. I added SE 585 cams, S&S lifters, a K&N air filter, and rocker lockers. The guy who is tuning it is very talented. He is well-versed with TTS and has tuned a previous bike for me with great results. Not sure if the baffles are choking it or something else going on.

My 117 build is 138.5 HP and 140 torque, using Fullsac head pipe and 2.25 baffles.  The smaller baffle will give more low torque but not quite as much HP at high rpm.  I'm over 107 torque at 2500 RPM and 120 torque at 2700 RPM.  The 1.175 baffle should bring torque on earlier.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1503 on: May 14, 2018, 08:55:07 PM »

motor1, did you get any better results yet?
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1504 on: May 14, 2018, 10:31:04 PM »

motor1, did you get any better results yet?


Not yet, very busy work, Mother’s Day obligations etc...
Going to do a leak down test and a compression test. We’ll see what happens and share my results with you guys.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1505 on: May 18, 2018, 11:56:52 AM »

So I have about 300kms on my 117 build (all HD out of the box and canned tune)

I was so concerned with the internet reports of soft low end, too low of compression, blah blah blah but maybe most of these kits are going into couchglides? 1000 pound rolling discos? No idea.

In my Prostreet this engine is a freight train. Pulls from clutch engagement all the way up and then hits even harder at 3500. (Rev limiting myself to 4K at the moment during drivetrain break in)

So all the people who read all these threads and convince themselves that the 259 cam and 9.9-1 compression won’t do the trick. Save your money and enjoy the bike.

Awesome. Pulls WAY harder than my 107 FM with 555s
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1506 on: May 20, 2018, 08:34:11 PM »

Have to agree. Too much talk of squeezing an extra 5-10 with other parts. The 117 are so much bigger than the old 88, it's a different story. I went with ss585 just for some more lift. Timing very close and a tighter head gasket only cause the heads were off.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #1507 on: May 21, 2018, 08:20:54 PM »

I just had R & R cycle put a Bassani Roadrage B4 on and lost 11 TQ AND ITS SOUNDS LIKE GARBAGE! Plus they left the bolt to the transmission mounting bracket off! Ok, getting use to the sound of my 1st 2 into 1 pipe and adjusting to the crazy good low end power. R & R got me specs on bolt and I replaced it myself, so all good there. He also told me his dyno reads lower then most by about 10% witch would put my numbers right where I thought they would be.
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