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Feuling Cam Chest
« on: January 31, 2016, 07:20:43 PM »

Gettin ready to pull the trigger on the cam chest rebuild in my 2011 CVO 110 SE...Thinking about just purchasing this kit from Direct Cycle Parts with the Reaper 574 cam or would I be better off going with a 525 or 543 for good dependable torque....Looking for input, anyone else have this set up??     POPS

http://www.directcycleparts.com/engine-camchest-kits-feuling-feuling-complete-camchest-kits-chain-drive-twin-p-5916.html
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Re: Feuling Cam Chest
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2016, 07:37:14 PM »

 574's are nice cams,use a fair amount of them.just get the cams.pass on  the plate,pump & the rest of that kit & put the $$ into headwork

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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2016, 07:41:43 PM »

To me the 574 comes on late ....sold them  being. Said .....I like my power coming
on prior to 2,600 rpm and carry  me til  5,000 rpm
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Re: Feuling Cam Chest
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2016, 07:42:37 PM »

I'm doing this in an attempt to quiet the noisy valve clatter and hopefully eliminate any future problems with the faulty lifter issues in these motors....Figured i'd start at the bottom and work my way up...I'm not a big top end high speed rider. Do a lot of 2 up and cruising...I love bottom end torque of these big motors.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2016, 07:45:47 PM »

...I have only use S&S hlt2 ... lifters and there roller rockers .. low noise ...

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Re: Feuling Cam Chest
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2016, 07:57:22 PM »

I'm also using there cam plate and oil pump  for over 3 years  no problems
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Re: Feuling Cam Chest
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2016, 07:59:58 PM »

I'm also using there cam plate and oil pump  for over 3 years  no problems

What cams are you running?
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Re: Feuling Cam Chest
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2016, 08:00:41 PM »

Woods 8's

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Re: Feuling Cam Chest
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2016, 08:03:20 PM »

All stock parts for oil pump and cam plate, save your money
Check your crank runout
Use Premium Delphi Lifters, not lifters from the MOCO
Just a good torque cam that runs quiet is either Andrews 57 or Cycle Rama 575. I have direct experience with both in a stock 110.
I used an Andrews 54 in mine but that was a move to also have a quiet intake. In my experience cams that are at 100 Intake LC can produce a noisy intake with TBW and that is exaggerated with a Heavy Breather style intake.
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Re: Feuling Cam Chest
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2016, 08:09:52 PM »

Agreed check run out cause fueling has a limit ... that being said do some research  on cam choice's and lifters

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Re: Feuling Cam Chest
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2016, 08:41:44 AM »

All stock parts for oil pump and cam plate, save your money
Check your crank runout
Use Premium Delphi Lifters, not lifters from the MOCO
Just a good torque cam that runs quiet is either Andrews 57 or Cycle Rama 575. I have direct experience with both in a stock 110.
I used an Andrews 54 in mine but that was a move to also have a quiet intake. In my experience cams that are at 100 Intake LC can produce a noisy intake with TBW and that is exaggerated with a Heavy Breather style intake.

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Also, I've not heard a Woods 8 that was quiet. Great cam in the right set up, but sounds like something is coming apart.
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Re: Feuling Cam Chest
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2016, 12:25:46 PM »

Why would the Builders that have replied so far, tell you to stay with the stock Pump / Plate, Harley parts that they can make little to no profit on vs the feuling crap that has margins??

My guess is that they have direct experience with feuling crap, their dismal quality control and tech support that is a joke?? Just a guess :nixweiss:

1) Due to my direct experience with feulings dismal QC & terrible customer support, the '09 SERG has the most expensive cam plate on the planet.

2) Last year I had all the components in the Cam Chest of the '05 SEEG (55k mi.) replaced with Stock HD (no issues, just a "going out of ESP" PM if you will). Other than the feuling reading about 5psi more on cold start / fast idle, the Oil Pressure gauges  of both bikes (Stock nib vs feuling nib from one of their distributors ) read exactly the same under all conditions including "heat soaked" idle... The Stock replacements worked fine "out of the box", one & done, the feuling crap required going into the Cam Chest 3 more times (under feuling's direction, "try this, try that", verify the gauge, etc...instead of overnighting different components that might have had some qc, see dismal / terrible above) before the Oil Pressure was fluctuating normally... Finally the 4th time was a charm when the distributor had feuling overnight a new pump/plate. The distributor still has not been reimbursed (by feuling) for the overnight fees as of yet... I don't think he's selling too much feuling stuff anymore...

When I asked feuling to cover some of the cost of going into the Cam Chest 3 more times (under their direction) feuling was all to happy to point to their disclaimer, then click, the phone was dead...

I won't get "feulled" again...   
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Re: Feuling Cam Chest
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2016, 02:13:33 PM »

Sorry to hear. Your misfortunes with fueling products
I have nothing but great results   :nixweiss:
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Re: Feuling Cam Chest
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2016, 03:53:48 PM »

I have a feuling cam plate in my bike
no problems
Can't comment on customer support because I didn't need it

But does sound similar to my experience with S&S
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and I still use their products because they have a pretty good record
but Customer Support doesn't exist outside US



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Re: Feuling Cam Chest
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2016, 08:10:48 PM »

Why would the Builders that have replied so far, tell you to stay with the stock Pump / Plate, Harley parts that they can make little to no profit on vs the feuling crap that has margins??

Simple answer is I hate to see money wasted, it is too hard to earn.
Many things may not be bad but just be unnecessary and money better spent elsewhere like on the crank.
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