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[dlg]

All,

     I just did the rear lifters and was wondering if you had to take of the front bracket off the engine.  It is over the top of the rocker cover, but it look like there is enough clearance to remove cover.  I will try anyway, but was just interested in knowing if you guys have done this before.

As far as the lifters go, I used the suggestion of S & S.  As mentioned above I did the rear cylinder.  The symptoms on the engine on start up erratic idle and also during normal operation, and it is not like my wife's 2015 CVO SG.  This bike is a 2011 CVO SG with a 2013 engine with 23k miles.  Lost the other engine due to lifters.  After replacing just the rears there is a noticeable difference.  I am going to do the front calendar this weekend.  I also changed to Liqui Moly a few weeks ago and that made a big difference.

David

[brassspike]

All,

     I just did the rear lifters and was wondering if you had to take of the front bracket off the engine.  It is over the top of the rocker cover, but it look like there is enough clearance to remove cover.  I will try anyway, but was just interested in knowing if you guys have done this before.

As far as the lifters go, I used the suggestion of S & S.  As mentioned above I did the rear cylinder.  The symptoms on the engine on start up erratic idle and also during normal operation, and it is not like my wife's 2015 CVO SG.  This bike is a 2011 CVO SG with a 2013 engine with 23k miles.  Lost the other engine due to lifters.  After replacing just the rears there is a noticeable difference.  I am going to do the front calendar this weekend.  I also changed to Liqui Moly a few weeks ago and that made a big difference.

David

I just did the lifters in my '12. Although I did the S&S pushrods (assuming you are using stockers), I removed the rocker covers to mod the oil drains and replace the separators. The front came of without removing the bracket.
BTW: Motor is quieter now although I have not had it really heat soaked yet.

[dlg]

Hi!!,

     Thanks for the information, I agree it is quieter and that is just for one cylinder.  Me too, I have not run it yet just moved it in and out of the garage.  I will do the front this weekend.  The job was not hard, the hardest part was coming up with enough SAE tools to do the job.  Most of my stuff is metric, I just made Amazon happy (and me too), I had to order lots of stuff.

Ride Safe!!
David
 

[brassspike]

When you pull it back down, try this. Put the transmission in high gear and roll the engine over using the rear wheel with the spark plugs out. I was amazed at the tension that the valve train has. Anyway, mine actually "seems" to run better now. I wouldn't be surprised if the stock lifters were not doing their job properly with hot oil. Time will tell when I get it really heat soaked. I also changed the oil pump and cam plate. Look for another post on that when I have time.

[dlg]

I looked at all of the youtubes and when I tried to spin the engine in the highest gear and I had to be on my back using two hands on the wheel and even then it would not spin, it was more like jerking the rear wheel to move the engine. 

Thx,
David

[rheiner]

I looked at all of the youtubes and when I tried to spin the engine in the highest gear and I had to be on my back using two hands on the wheel and even then it would not spin, it was more like jerking the rear wheel to move the engine. 

Thx,
David

Did you take both spark plugs out? In order to get the engine to spin you need to.

[dlg]

Yes, both were out.  Just was not easy.

[brassspike]

Same here David. I was second guessing my lifter bleed down. Your experience is the same. No wonder there are lifter failures! Imagine all that going on at high rpm.

[HD Street Performance]

With an erratic idle first place I would go is a compression check and intake seals

[dlg]

Thanks for the information, but the erratic idle is due to the lifters.  The engine has 23k on it and the pistons have to be good.  When the lifters start to fail this is what happens first.  The engine is not getting the proper fuel mixture.  As i mentioned in my previous post, just fixing one cylinder it is better.

How do I know this, this engine is my second complete one and I have two rebuilds on the previous two.  I have read almost every post on lifter fail and they all complained about the idle first and then the engine "grenaded".  My wifes CVO did the same thing and she had two new and one rebuild.  And why do I stay with Harley, simple, as long as they are paying I am staying.   

Thx,
David

[grc]

Thanks for the information, but the erratic idle is due to the lifters.  The engine has 23k on it and the pistons have to be good.  When the lifters start to fail this is what happens first.  The engine is not getting the proper fuel mixture.  As i mentioned in my previous post, just fixing one cylinder it is better.

How do I know this, this engine is my second complete one and I have two rebuilds on the previous two.  I have read almost every post on lifter fail and they all complained about the idle first and then the engine "grenaded".  My wifes CVO did the same thing and she had two new and one rebuild.  And why do I stay with Harley, simple, as long as they are paying I am staying.   

Thx,
David

That's one way to look at it I suppose.  On the other hand, if I just read that correctly you and your wife have had four complete engine replacements and three rebuilds between you.  That is abysmal quality and reliability, and no matter who is paying for the repairs that would have forced me to look for a different and better brand a long time ago.  There's a lot more that's just as important as who eventually pays the repair bills. 

JMHO - Jerry

[dlg]

Hi Jerry!!

      I actually agree with you, I probably should, but I just like the "Brand", just call me silly.  Your engine numbers are actually correct.  My last engine blew at the 110 in Milwaukee,2013, I was half way on the trip.  We were going through Canada on the way back to California. I actually had to buy another bike (used) and ride it home.  Harley "comped" my engine and I paid to get it home.  As I said just "silly", and it is good to hear from you.

Ride Safe,
David