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[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

Well having done many of the 10.5 110 builds vs the 10.5 113 builds we also see more power with the 113. Now that is can be for many reason. The biggest I feel is that we DO NOT ball hone a cylinder or worse just drop a new piston kit into a run cylinder.. Ring seal is power . As well you un-shroud the valves with a larger bore . Example a 600 cam with 58 t/b 110 with 10.5 piston makes 118 ish hp the 113 will make over 120 all with stock heads. Tq curve on the 113 comes in faster on avg.. I do not feel one is more wrong than right.. Both work well and if the cylinder is round and straight it will work.. Some 110 cylinders will never be round and straight even if you do bore them.. I have seen a few myself as well other builders. That have sprung or distorted if you will. That is just a production cylinder that has a flaw for what ever reason. It can happen.. not all cylinders are great.. The 110 though is a good bet to use as a platform to make power.

I would like to build a 117 stock heads with our 577 , then add a 58 . It would be a tq build without a doubt. But if you can obtain a massive curve and it makes say 115 ish great. Simple deal for most . I think you can get 113-116 hp with stock t/b . I have a cam that is done on and ready to be cut that would be great for a 10.1 comp ratio 117 build .  More lift than the 577 different ex lob and a touch more duration. It worked great in a 117 that we did with S&S kit with stock heads on a CVO. But that cam is not for sale so posting dyno sheets is a mute point.

In the end its a air pump and you need to feed it. The Stock 50 MM FBW is a restriction on stock heads.  I am sure that we will find a killer kit that is easy for the end user. That will make great power on both sides for the money spent.

   At this point we are in a holding pattern for two new cams.. the 17 engines are going to create some new questions and should be interesting to see how the public reacts . So until I can get my hands on a 17 no new cams are going to be put into production.

[BigRichRam02]

this sounds like a stupid fun way to go with my dyna fat bob just gotta get my clutch replaced.

[Unbalanced]

Well having done many of the 10.5 110 builds vs the 10.5 113 builds we also see more power with the 113. Now that is can be for many reason. The biggest I feel is that we DO NOT ball hone a cylinder or worse just drop a new piston kit into a run cylinder.. Ring seal is power . As well you un-shroud the valves with a larger bore . Example a 600 cam with 58 t/b 110 with 10.5 piston makes 118 ish hp the 113 will make over 120 all with stock heads. Tq curve on the 113 comes in faster on avg.. I do not feel one is more wrong than right.. Both work well and if the cylinder is round and straight it will work.. Some 110 cylinders will never be round and straight even if you do bore them.. I have seen a few myself as well other builders. That have sprung or distorted if you will. That is just a production cylinder that has a flaw for what ever reason. It can happen.. not all cylinders are great.. The 110 though is a good bet to use as a platform to make power.

I would like to build a 117 stock heads with our 577 , then add a 58 . It would be a tq build without a doubt. But if you can obtain a massive curve and it makes say 115 ish great. Simple deal for most . I think you can get 113-116 hp with stock t/b . I have a cam that is done on and ready to be cut that would be great for a 10.1 comp ratio 117 build .  More lift than the 577 different ex lob and a touch more duration. It worked great in a 117 that we did with S&S kit with stock heads on a CVO. But that cam is not for sale so posting dyno sheets is a mute point.

In the end its a air pump and you need to feed it. The Stock 50 MM FBW is a restriction on stock heads.  I am sure that we will find a killer kit that is easy for the end user. That will make great power on both sides for the money spent.

   At this point we are in a holding pattern for two new cams.. the 17 engines are going to create some new questions and should be interesting to see how the public reacts . So until I can get my hands on a 17 no new cams are going to be put into production.

So Steve are you saying things like these pictures can result from the boring when going from 110 to 113. 

[sadunbar]

So Steve are you saying things like these pictures can result from the boring when going from 110 to 113. 

 

[FlaHeatWave]

So Steve are you saying things like these pictures can result from the boring when going from 110 to 113. 

OUCH! How many miles? ?

[Unbalanced]

Not that many only 4K miles

[Fullsac Performance]

[quote
   At this point we are in a holding pattern for two new cams.. the 17 engines are going to create some new questions and should be interesting to see how the public reacts . So until I can get my hands on a 17 no new cams are going to be put into production.


You think? Lol..

[happyman]

[quote
   At this point we are in a holding pattern for two new cams.. the 17 engines are going to create some new questions and should be interesting to see how the public reacts . So until I can get my hands on a 17 no new cams are going to be put into production.


You think? Lol..

Seems there will be more of the other year of bikes to use a certain pattern than what the 17 may have? 

[Kingspoke]

   At this point we are in a holding pattern for two new cams.. the 17 engines are going to create some new questions and should be interesting to see how the public reacts . So until I can get my hands on a 17 no new cams are going to be put into production.

Do you expect a dramatic design change in the '17 engines over the current twin cams?

[harleytuner]

Do you expect a dramatic design change in the '17 engines over the current twin cams?

There is a huge change coming in '17.  107", 4 valves per head, oil cooled, possibly 4 cam, all motors are balanced

[Fullsac Performance]

There is a huge change coming in '17.  107", 4 valves per head, oil cooled, possibly 4 cam, all motors are balanced

 The men in the black suits are going to have a chat with you. Lol 

[LC110]

The elves up north, (Tomahawk) told me one came out of the woods last week, and stopped by for new colorful outfit. They said it sure is going to get people talking.

[harleytuner]

The men in the black suits are going to have a chat with you. Lol 

I'm not under any confidentiality agreement.

[Kingspoke]

The Twin Cam has been around since 1999, with multiple iterations, so it seems highly probable that major changes could occur for 2017.  Not to mention the recent increases in CC's kits and the 110's available in the softail, etc.

I'm gonna agree that major changes are going to happen in the 2017 motors. 

[OBB]

The Twin Cam has been around since 1999, with multiple iterations, so it seems highly probable that major changes could occur for 2017.  Not to mention the recent increases in CC's kits and the 110's available in the softail, etc.

I'm gonna agree that major changes are going to happen in the 2017 motors.

And if the '07 110 is any type of benchmark,  the new one might be in good shape by about 2019. Lol