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[Para Bellum]

There is a huge change coming in '17.  107", 4 valves per head, oil cooled, possibly 4 cam, all motors are balanced

So they're going to ditch water-cooling and go back to the original system?   

They're going to use the "B" engine in Touring bikes and dump the rubber mounts?   

You pulling my leg?

[Kingspoke]

http://www.bikernewsonline.com/2015/07/fresh-rumors-surface-of-forthcoming.html

Maybe a touring version on the Vrod.

[Fullsac Performance]

http://www.bikernewsonline.com/2015/07/fresh-rumors-surface-of-forthcoming.html

Maybe a touring version on the Vrod.

 

[harleytuner]

http://www.bikernewsonline.com/2015/07/fresh-rumors-surface-of-forthcoming.html

Maybe a touring version on the Vrod.

It's completely different than the Vrod, it still has a separate transmission and primary.  Some kind of internal crank balance, 107" with 4 valves per head and oil cooled. The "milwaulkee 8"

[SneakyPete]

It's completely different than the Vrod, it still has a separate transmission and primary.  Some kind of internal crank balance, 107" with 4 valves per head and oil cooled. The "milwaulkee 8"

Who wants to be a Beta tester?

[Mr. Warlock]

Who wants to be a Beta tester?

I thought we all were.......... already 

[Kingspoke]

It's completely different than the Vrod, it still has a separate transmission and primary.  Some kind of internal crank balance, 107" with 4 valves per head and oil cooled. The "milwaulkee 8"

The reference of "vrod" type was more in regard to the new design (as the revolution motor was) utilizing the 4 valves per cylinder, and a major departure from the vtwin motors of current popularity.

Any more information that you might have, I'm all ears!

[harleytuner]

The reference of "vrod" type was more in regard to the new design (as the revolution motor was) utilizing the 4 valves per cylinder, and a major departure from the vtwin motors of current popularity.

Any more information that you might have, I'm all ears!

This is pure speculation, but there is a major change in the cam chest area, from the pictures I have the cover is a completely different shape.  Looks more rounded like a frying pan.  It's hard to tell by the pic, but the pushrods appear that they could be straighter which would lead me to believe a possible 4 cam build, or even a 3 cam (independent exhaust and shared intake cams). 

I can say for certain that there is a re-designed horn cover lol

[Kingspoke]

This is pure speculation, but there is a major change in the cam chest area, from the pictures I have the cover is a completely different shape.  Looks more rounded like a frying pan.  It's hard to tell by the pic, but the pushrods appear that they could be straighter which would lead me to believe a possible 4 cam build, or even a 3 cam (independent exhaust and shared intake cams). 

I can say for certain that there is a re-designed horn cover lol

That is the ice breaker for me, I'm all in, now!

I've noticed how BMW is developing a bagger version (101 concept) and Harley is now going to a possibly 4 valve, 4 cyclinder bagger, as if there is a convergence or industry change of what a future bagger will look like and perform like.  Each trying to entice bikers  from either camp.

Based on Vrod sales, I'm certain Harley is sweating bullets over how this new bike will be received (here).

[Black Diamond]

Who wants to be a Beta tester?

My dance card is full.. I'll pass if this come to light.

JW

[Rooster]

Not me, but I will gladly read all about right here.

[DCFIREMANN]

So Steve are you saying things like these pictures can result from the boring when going from 110 to 113. 

Harry not sure what happened to those cylinders. Had the bike been tuned?? What pistons?? What cams?? AND HOW MANY MILES??? I hope that is not one of your bikes!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Unbalanced]

Mike,

The heads were pretty black with carbon, cylinders were honed to go to 113 and stock crank was replaced at time of build.  If it is a heat issue then I would say tune, but there seems to be multiple concerns that need to be addressed.   I believe the owner will either redo it as a 113 or redo it as a 117.   Personally I would like to cut the cylinders in half where the marks are to see if there is any material behind the liners, but that is just my inquisitive side.

Glad it's not mine I would be pretty frustrated at just 3500-4K miles.

[DCFIREMANN]

Do we have any other info on this build, TB size, head work done and what flywheels were used. I see it had GMR 577 cams and a FAT KAT exhaust. Who built and who tuned the motor. I'm surprised at 4K to have a failure like this.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Unbalanced]

Mike I believe it had a VH power cell  2-1-2 with crushers. 58 mm throttle body.    I heard the owner has contacted the vendor and is seeing what can be done or where he goes from here.